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« Reply #30 on: July 14, 2016, 01:40:37 PM »

A 2nd ton on tour for Azhar Ali. Do we take these county games with a pinch of salt? He's clearly in a bit of form. Has a poor test record over here though. Pp still have him at 9/2 for top Pakistani series batsman.

The problem is the openers aren't very good and Azhar will be regularly coming out to face a new cherry
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« Reply #31 on: July 14, 2016, 09:23:33 PM »

A 2nd ton on tour for Azhar Ali. Do we take these county games with a pinch of salt? He's clearly in a bit of form. Has a poor test record over here though. Pp still have him at 9/2 for top Pakistani series batsman.

The problem is the openers aren't very good and Azhar will be regularly coming out to face a new cherry

Yep, Masood their weakest batsman by a distance imo.

Moeen on borrowed time? didn't threaten today. Attack of Broad, Anderson, Woakes, Rashid and Stokes by the 3rd test?
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« Reply #32 on: July 14, 2016, 11:17:11 PM »

Is Rashid available to play test cricket?

I seem to recall him declining any more selections in favour of just playing ODI's and travelling the various T20 comps.
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« Reply #33 on: July 14, 2016, 11:41:56 PM »

Surely not much was expected of Moeen today? Flat first day pitch against a team who despite their weaknesses are generally excellent at playing spin. Doubt there'll be much difference in effectiveness between Moeen and Rashid tbh except one bats much better than the other. In this series it'll be the pacers who do the majority of the work for sure. 4 frontline seamers with Moeen for days 4/5 seems like the best option to me.
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« Reply #34 on: July 16, 2016, 12:40:35 PM »

Yasir's 6-72 the best figures by a visiting spinner v England at Lord's since Sid Pegler's 7-65 for SA in 1912.

83 wickets in his first 13 teasts, the most ever

very very good bowler

now under DRS the batsmen have a lot less room for manoeuvre because of umpires call, marginal decisions stay with the umpire and so he's getting lots of LBWs

england middle order very weak against spin, can't use their feet because he spins it both ways
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« Reply #35 on: July 16, 2016, 01:01:13 PM »

What do we think is a winning total for Pakistan? 270 ahead? 4th innings wicket with the best leggie in the world?
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« Reply #36 on: July 16, 2016, 01:14:03 PM »

What do we think is a winning total for Pakistan? 270 ahead? 4th innings wicket with the best leggie in the world?

Something like that. 200 england favourites, 300 pakistan favourites, 250 to chase 50-50?
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« Reply #37 on: July 16, 2016, 01:17:52 PM »

What do we think is a winning total for Pakistan? 270 ahead? 4th innings wicket with the best leggie in the world?

England will be favourites if they are set 270.  Think the bookies will have the number at around 300-320 for a 50/50 game
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« Reply #38 on: July 16, 2016, 01:46:25 PM »

England's innings was the first in Lord's Test history in which no overs were bowled by right-arm seamers.

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« Reply #39 on: July 16, 2016, 04:26:25 PM »

220 will be enough probably, Yasir too good on day 4
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« Reply #40 on: July 17, 2016, 10:42:10 AM »

Woakes 11wkts in 40overs this match; 8w in 154ov in his first 6 Tests.

 If he keeps improving at this rate, he'll take a wicket every 0.7 balls by 2023.
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« Reply #41 on: July 17, 2016, 10:46:34 AM »

Yasir Shah has taken 24 wickets at 17.8 in the fourth innings of Tests. Won six games out of seven

the bookmakers do not have Pakistan favourite to win this test, which i find very strange
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« Reply #42 on: July 17, 2016, 12:11:13 PM »

who is your money on then?

286 to win
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« Reply #43 on: July 17, 2016, 12:50:32 PM »

I can't remember the last time England batted well in the 4th innings of a test. Either achieving a run chase or batting out a day for a draw?

Shot a ball here really isn't working.
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« Reply #44 on: July 17, 2016, 02:01:36 PM »

I think aggression is the way to go. No use sitting back and waiting for Yasir to get them out.

Wanna and Amir don't look dangerous at all, That has taken 3 but also looks like he can go for runs.

Still very much in this game.
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