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« on: May 23, 2017, 04:37:09 PM »

Hey everyone, this will be a post regarding some recent dealings with Daniel Lowe (LiberatorNED on Party) to Paul Allen (Sheld0nc00per / Paul12907), which has taken place over the last month and a half. Paul has asked me to post this for him on here, since Dan has become a reasonably well known member of the community:

On the 17th April, Dan asked me to borrow £550 in order to buy into a Phase 1 tournament at the recent partypoker MILLIONS festival. I agreed, on the provision that he would pay it back the next day after he received money from his father. At the time Dan was staying with me for the festival rent free, and had been for some time, so it didn’t seem like there would be any issue. He stays at my house for several days at a time sometimes up to a week 2-3x a month on average to play at Dusk Till Dawn.

That was obviously well over a month ago, and Dan spent most of that time living with me until he left on the 14th May. I was asking him for the money regularly during this time, and was quickly starting to feel taken advantage of as more of the deadlines we set were passing.

Dan was continuing to play poker during this time at my local casino, tournaments and cash games. On the 11th May, Dan chopped one of these daily MTTs for a little over £1k (I’m unsure on the exact amount, he’s listed as finishing second, chops in this club are always ICM based and first is guaranteed at 1.2k). The next day, he goes out and buys himself a new Ipad as well as some other clothing type things and didn’t pay back any of what he owed. As part of this chop, he won a seat into a two day tournament at the weekend. He took at least three bullets at £220 a go, and ended up finishing 16th in the tournament on the 14th May for £1050 (listed on the club website). After this result he sat down in a cash game and lost AT LEAST a few hundred, and had his second massage of the weekend at £1 a minute for at least an hour on each day. I ended up sat in the same cash game as him that night and at no point did he pay me back any of the money, offer to pay me back any money, or even mention the issue as all, despite being reminded of the debt the previous day.

The next day he left early, and I didn’t manage to speak to him properly before he went home. That same day I sent him a message on Facebook asking about the situation with the debt, and he promised to pay it back within the week. We set a deadline for Friday 19th and I gave him my bank details. On this day [Friday 19th], I received no money, and no word from Dan until I messaged him myself at 2219, he said that he needed to visit the bank and would do so the next day and asked for my bank details again, which I provided him, and he acknowledged with a thumbs up. This deadline also passed. On Sunday, he was sent a message by my housemate regarding the issues over the debt, which he didn’t reply to. On Monday night / Tuesday morning 1200-0100 he was contacted regarding this post being made and replied instantly, citing unspecified family and personal problems as the reason for not paying me back and apologised, saying he would have it paid back by the coming Friday. At this point I didn’t feel like there was any point in dragging this out for another week, as people are speculating about this issue anyhow, and only for another deadline to pass, so I gave Dan until 1400 on Tuesday 23rd to pay, or this post would be made. This deadline has also passed, and given his standing in the poker community it seems prudent at this point to notify everyone of the situation should they consider any financial dealings with him.

At this time Dan owes £550. Any further developments and I will update this post.
This is not a post to slate Dan, it’s simply to make everyone here aware of the facts and to tell the truth over this issue, as it's being speculated about somewhat by people as it is.
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« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2017, 06:10:30 PM »

Epic
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« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2017, 12:10:23 AM »

Epic

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« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2017, 12:13:44 AM »

What have the police said?
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« Reply #4 on: May 24, 2017, 12:28:16 AM »

Pics of masseuse?


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« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2017, 04:16:56 AM »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plZRe1kPWZw
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« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2017, 06:12:24 AM »

Did he buy trainers for the swift getaway?
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« Reply #7 on: May 24, 2017, 08:53:28 AM »

Pics of masseuse?




£1 per minute for a massage seems very toppy.
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« Reply #8 on: May 24, 2017, 09:16:42 AM »

Seriously though
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« Reply #9 on: May 24, 2017, 09:36:57 AM »

Glad this was posted, as it gives me a chance to share my own unsavoury dealings with a good standing member of the community.

Last year me and 3 relatively well known pro gamblers agreed a small wager on the Apprentice (TV show). Without going into detail, I picked a dreadful team but ran unbelievably golden, my bumbling team of idiots constantly swerved trouble whilst better candidates in better thought out teams fell and I ended up winning comfortably. I won about £1000,  £825 was won from the one person, prolly the best team too, you know how it goes.

So a week later I kindly message asking for the money even though I don't remotely deserve it I still won it at gambling so I should take it. I get some nonsense excuse about not wanting to send a bank transfer, followed by a vague message of intent to find some stars $ to send me. I wait another week, nothing. So I message again, and am met with some more nonsense about getting someone else to send the money. I know that in reality he just didn't want to pay me straight away because of what a huge luckbox I was in the bet.

About 10 days later a mutual friend of ours messages and says he's sent the money in full for the debt. A full month after the debt was due.

This is not intended to the slate the guy, just want to share the true facts of the matter and highlight to everyone that if you do business with this person the they might be left to wait for a time penalise you for your good fortune.
Debt currently stands at £0 but I was made to wait an unduly amount of time, and made to feel like I didn't deserve the money I won fair and square on the basis of how absolutely dreadful he ran with his far superior team.
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« Reply #10 on: May 24, 2017, 09:51:16 AM »

Glad this was posted, as it gives me a chance to share my own unsavoury dealings with a good standing member of the community.

Last year me and 3 relatively well known pro gamblers agreed a small wager on the Apprentice (TV show). Without going into detail, I picked a dreadful team but ran unbelievably golden, my bumbling team of idiots constantly swerved trouble whilst better candidates in better thought out teams fell and I ended up winning comfortably. I won about £1000,  £825 was won from the one person, prolly the best team too, you know how it goes.

So a week later I kindly message asking for the money even though I don't remotely deserve it I still won it at gambling so I should take it. I get some nonsense excuse about not wanting to send a bank transfer, followed by a vague message of intent to find some stars $ to send me. I wait another week, nothing. So I message again, and am met with some more nonsense about getting someone else to send the money. I know that in reality he just didn't want to pay me straight away because of what a huge luckbox I was in the bet.

About 10 days later a mutual friend of ours messages and says he's sent the money in full for the debt. A full month after the debt was due.

This is not intended to the slate the guy, just want to share the true facts of the matter and highlight to everyone that if you do business with this person the they might be left to wait for a time penalise you for your good fortune.
Debt currently stands at £0 but I was made to wait an unduly amount of time, and made to feel like I didn't deserve the money I won fair and square on the basis of how absolutely dreadful he ran with his far superior team.

I've been there mate..alls week that ends well though..pleased for you Smiley
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« Reply #11 on: May 24, 2017, 09:57:05 AM »

Glad this was posted, as it gives me a chance to share my own unsavoury dealings with a good standing member of the community.

Last year me and 3 relatively well known pro gamblers agreed a small wager on the Apprentice (TV show). Without going into detail, I picked a dreadful team but ran unbelievably golden, my bumbling team of idiots constantly swerved trouble whilst better candidates in better thought out teams fell and I ended up winning comfortably. I won about £1000,  £825 was won from the one person, prolly the best team too, you know how it goes.

So a week later I kindly message asking for the money even though I don't remotely deserve it I still won it at gambling so I should take it. I get some nonsense excuse about not wanting to send a bank transfer, followed by a vague message of intent to find some stars $ to send me. I wait another week, nothing. So I message again, and am met with some more nonsense about getting someone else to send the money. I know that in reality he just didn't want to pay me straight away because of what a huge luckbox I was in the bet.

About 10 days later a mutual friend of ours messages and says he's sent the money in full for the debt. A full month after the debt was due.

This is not intended to the slate the guy, just want to share the true facts of the matter and highlight to everyone that if you do business with this person the they might be left to wait for a time penalise you for your good fortune.
Debt currently stands at £0 but I was made to wait an unduly amount of time, and made to feel like I didn't deserve the money I won fair and square on the basis of how absolutely dreadful he ran with his far superior team.

This isn't going to end well.

I blame Dan
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« Reply #12 on: May 24, 2017, 10:00:57 AM »

To funny.
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« Reply #13 on: May 24, 2017, 10:21:21 AM »

Glad this was posted, as it gives me a chance to share my own unsavoury dealings with a good standing member of the community.

Last year me and 3 relatively well known pro gamblers agreed a small wager on the Apprentice (TV show). Without going into detail, I picked a dreadful team but ran unbelievably golden, my bumbling team of idiots constantly swerved trouble whilst better candidates in better thought out teams fell and I ended up winning comfortably. I won about £1000,  £825 was won from the one person, prolly the best team too, you know how it goes.

So a week later I kindly message asking for the money even though I don't remotely deserve it I still won it at gambling so I should take it. I get some nonsense excuse about not wanting to send a bank transfer, followed by a vague message of intent to find some stars $ to send me. I wait another week, nothing. So I message again, and am met with some more nonsense about getting someone else to send the money. I know that in reality he just didn't want to pay me straight away because of what a huge luckbox I was in the bet.

About 10 days later a mutual friend of ours messages and says he's sent the money in full for the debt. A full month after the debt was due.

This is not intended to the slate the guy, just want to share the true facts of the matter and highlight to everyone that if you do business with this person the they might be left to wait for a time penalise you for your good fortune.
Debt currently stands at £0 but I was made to wait an unduly amount of time, and made to feel like I didn't deserve the money I won fair and square on the basis of how absolutely dreadful he ran with his far superior team.

Lol actually had to check the records, I knew you'd done your bollocks deep down but the story was so convincing!
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« Reply #14 on: May 24, 2017, 12:39:17 PM »

6+ pages me thinks
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