Changes you would implement to revive the UK

[mikeymike]

1. Give Scotland its independence also N.I and Wales if they wanted it.
2. Bring back the Death Penalty.
3. Open up the country to more migrants.
4. Lower the VAT threshold.
5. Nationalise  any industry that was a proven failure in private hands.

Just to kick it off.

[teddybloat]

instead of cutting taxes give out random lump sum cash payments to people.

do away with the notion of punishment from the criminal justice system

sever all links between church and state

randomise school entry, no more catchment areas.

do away with targets in public services

do not nationalise any failing industry

[Geo the Sarge]

1. Give Scotland its independence also N.I and Wales if they wanted it.
2. Bring back the Death Penalty.
3. Open up the country to more migrants.
4. Lower the VAT threshold.
5. Nationalise  any industry that was a proven failure in private hands.

Just to kick it off.

You may want to rethink the title of your thread

Geo

[mikeymike]

Not necessarily as Independence could create a kingdom that becomes united.

[EvilPie]

Privatise healthcare and pay health insurance for everyone.

Pretty sure you get a lot of health insurance for a grand and that the 60 billion it would cost is significantly less than the NHS spends per year.

The money squandered by the NHS must be obscene. The shit you read about them paying more for paracetemol than they cost at bloody Tesco is madness.

The procurement process is a disgrace. It's so big they just hand it over to huge corps like Carillion who then just sub it all out and make a killing but then fuck it up so bad they go bust.

Sooner it gets privatised the better but it needs to be done with no state subsidies to the Companies that run it.

Don't get me wrong if they can run it properly as a nationalised business then keep it going but as it stands it just doesn't work.

[EvilPie]

One small but real life example of NHS scandalous waste.

My Company carries out quite a lot of work for one of the NHS trusts.

A few years ago they changed the procurement process so that the Company had to be on a particular list to be able to provide services. Unfortunately my Company wasn't on that list so we could no longer carry out the work even though the Trust wanted us to.

The solution: Get us to do the work but invoice it through a third party who's on the list. The third party added 20% to our invoices just for the admin of raises an invoice once per month and also handling our monthly invoice to them.

Our invoices per year were about £150k so the third party was adding £30k for invoicing. The third party weren't even capable of providing the service that we offered.

That's one tiny example of the shower of shit that is the NHS as a business.

[Jon MW]

It isn't just the NHS it's all public sector procurement that's the problem.

My company looked at bidding for contracts to supply the public sector a while ago, but the amount of bureaucracy and jumping through hoops it required was just too time consuming and expensive to make it worth the while (when it still wouldn't guarantee you'd get any work at the end of it).

I'm a great believer in the free market and privatisation as a concept - but it has to be remembered that the concept of privatisation working better than the public sector is because the profit motive will make you cut waste. If it's an industry that doesn't naturally create a profit (like universal healthcare) - then there's going to be no profit motive because it's going to be subsidised by the government whatever you do.

But what you've put shows what the solution is - we don't need to privatise the NHS; if the problem is procurement we just need to sort out procurement.
 

[Graham C]

The trouble is that it's all subbed out and other companies are milking it.   Another example of waste -   My Mrs works for Public Health England - if she needs to go somewhere that needs a train ticket, she has to use a procurement company that sorts out the train ticket for her.  It's about £100 for a trip to London or something stupid.  Buying it herself from the station would be a fraction of that.    I assume the company also get a % on top of the overpriced tickets too.  

Take it all in house.  If a company can bid for the work and make money on top of it then the NHS can employ it's own department to run it at cost.

Local councils are just as bad.  Ours has just leased it's three (I think) leisure facilities to a third party.  They've paid to be able to run them and as a company will aim to turn a profit - why can't the council just run them and employ someone to do it?  

[Graham C]

Not quite sure how bringing back the death penalty will revive the UK.

[teddybloat]

It stops peadophilia. Are you pro nonce or summat?

[dwh103]

Ban political parties (all MPs must be independent)

Rebalance taxation towards wealth instead of income

[Graham C]

It stops peadophilia. Are you pro nonce or summat?

  That's reviving the UK is it?

Not sure it would make any difference.

[RED-DOG]

It stops peadophilia. Are you pro nonce or summat?

Wow! I didn't realise there was no peadophilia in the UK before 1964.

[kukushkin88]

It stops peadophilia. Are you pro nonce or summat?

Wow! I didn't realise there was no peadophilia in the UK before 1964.

Wasn't he just mocking the idea of bringing back the death penalty? We best ask him I suppose?

[kukushkin88]

Of course, there isn't a credible suggestion that the death penalty reduces crime.