poker news
blondepedia
card room
tournament schedule
uk results
galleries
Welcome,
Guest
. Please
login
or
register
.
October 11, 2024, 03:04:40 AM
1 Hour
1 Day
1 Week
1 Month
Forever
Login with username, password and session length
Search:
Advanced search
Order through Amazon and help blonde Poker
2274208
Posts in
66766
Topics by
16731
Members
Latest Member:
Airdraken
blonde poker forum
Community Forums
The Lounge
COVID19
0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.
« previous
next »
Pages:
1
...
301
302
303
304
[
305
]
Author
Topic: COVID19 (Read 397598 times)
Doobs
Hero Member
Offline
Posts: 16649
Re: COVID19
«
Reply #4560 on:
November 01, 2023, 01:30:19 PM »
Quote from: nirvana on October 31, 2023, 05:38:42 PM
Was just listening to a podcast with John Campbell, he's mentioned in this thread quite a lot and was always interesting to listen to during the pandemic.
I find the whole Covid enquiry approach is pretty much guaranteed to ensure we learn almost nothing from the experience that will ensure we would handle something like this better in the future.
It seems way too focused on the Government's clown like behaviours, uselessness and corruption than the more serious issue of whether the nature of the generally supported response (lockdowns, speedy introduction of new tech vaccines, closing schools etc) were actually better than doing nothing and serve as any kind of model for a future response.
Think it is a bit of performance bollocks too.
I wouldn't waste 30 seconds watching a John Campbell video these days. He makes fortunes telling the gullible what they want to hear, even when he knows the opposite is true (there are plenty of receipts). I have a lot of sympathy for those that end up sceptical of vaccines, but don't extend my sympathy to those who deliberately made them that way.
It is long beyond doubt that the vaccines were very successful and saved millions of lives; and that lockdowns, whether forced or voluntary, did the same.
You can argue about if and for how long schools needed to close, what we could do better for care homes etc, booster targeting etc.
I am not sure what we can usefully learn though, the next pandemic could be entirely different. It could be less, or more severe, than the last one; or it may be more lethal for children. So you can't say that we never need lockdowns again, or that we should never shut schools again etc.
I am not sure if a bazillion pound enquiry is needed for that, especially when most of the participants seem mostly interested in protecting their own reputations. Am all for profanity aimed at ministers though... More of that pls.
Logged
Most of the bets placed so far seem more like hopeful punts rather than value spots
nirvana
Hero Member
Offline
Posts: 7806
Re: COVID19
«
Reply #4561 on:
November 01, 2023, 05:37:19 PM »
Quote from: Doobs on November 01, 2023, 01:30:19 PM
Quote from: nirvana on October 31, 2023, 05:38:42 PM
Was just listening to a podcast with John Campbell, he's mentioned in this thread quite a lot and was always interesting to listen to during the pandemic.
I find the whole Covid enquiry approach is pretty much guaranteed to ensure we learn almost nothing from the experience that will ensure we would handle something like this better in the future.
It seems way too focused on the Government's clown like behaviours, uselessness and corruption than the more serious issue of whether the nature of the generally supported response (lockdowns, speedy introduction of new tech vaccines, closing schools etc) were actually better than doing nothing and serve as any kind of model for a future response.
Think it is a bit of performance bollocks too.
I wouldn't waste 30 seconds watching a John Campbell video these days. He makes fortunes telling the gullible what they want to hear, even when he knows the opposite is true (there are plenty of receipts). I have a lot of sympathy for those that end up sceptical of vaccines, but don't extend my sympathy to those who deliberately made them that way.
It is long beyond doubt that the vaccines were very successful and saved millions of lives; and that lockdowns, whether forced or voluntary, did the same.
You can argue about if and for how long schools needed to close, what we could do better for care homes etc, booster targeting etc.
I am not sure what we can usefully learn though, the next pandemic could be entirely different. It could be less, or more severe, than the last one; or it may be more lethal for children. So you can't say that we never need lockdowns again, or that we should never shut schools again etc.
I am not sure if a bazillion pound enquiry is needed for that, especially when most of the participants seem mostly interested in protecting their own reputations. Am all for profanity aimed at ministers though... More of that pls.
Yep, agreed on Campbell - only mentioned him for the kind of reason you outline - clear grifter to me then, and probably more so now. Nevertheless, found the whole discussion interesting given the passage of time since it all started.
Agree, the next pandemic is likely to be very different so any learnings are necessarily limited - but you'd hope an enquiry like this might surface some objective truths about how experts and politicians should work together and how they should communicate and /or direct the population.
We're definitely not going to get that and even worse, we're not even going to try and get that.
Maybe on such a complex issue it isn't that surprising but post the enquiry, it won't really matter if you were on the lockdown for ever, make vaccines mandatory end of the spectrum or do nothing end of the spectrum you will not have heard or
learned
anything to change your perspective.
Still, on the rare occasions I give it any thought, can easily start fumming about the amount of lies and misleading information I was fed.
Logged
sola virtus nobilitat
Marky147
Hero Member
Offline
Posts: 22814
Re: COVID19
«
Reply #4562 on:
November 01, 2023, 05:59:32 PM »
Quote from: nirvana on October 31, 2023, 05:38:42 PM
Was just listening to a podcast with John Campbell, he's mentioned in this thread quite a lot and was always interesting to listen to during the pandemic.
I find the whole Covid enquiry approach is pretty much guaranteed to ensure we learn almost nothing from the experience that will ensure we would handle something like this better in the future.
It seems way too focused on the Government's clown like behaviours, uselessness and corruption than the more serious issue of whether the nature of the generally supported response (lockdowns, speedy introduction of new tech vaccines, closing schools etc) were actually better than doing nothing and serve as any kind of model for a future response.
He was good to listen to for the first year or so, but then he was either taken in by, or saw how much more money his channel was making when he entered the world of woo.
His accounts show what is more likely to be the reason, and it has been fascinting to watch him continue to play his audience, most of whom abused him until late 2021
If we'd done nothing, then I've seen it suggested that Neil Ferguson would likely have been right with his modelling. The one that's always used to ridicule him, which was in fact based on us doing nothing. Most people act like it was what he said it would be if we took the path we did.
Vaccines aren't actually new tech, and Malone invented them years ago, according to him. Campbell likely told his audience back then, but now will definitely be alluding to them being, as he's aligned with the likes of Malhotra & Norman Fenton etc.
I've not watched a bit of the thing, other than a few clips of Barnard Castle being quoted for abusing Hancock on whatsapp
Think all we'll find out, is what we've known all along. Most politicians are shithouses.
Logged
Burning $$$ in Vegas 2021
http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=68840.0
Marky147
Hero Member
Offline
Posts: 22814
Re: COVID19
«
Reply #4563 on:
November 01, 2023, 06:02:56 PM »
Quote from: Marky147 on November 01, 2023, 05:59:32 PM
Quote from: nirvana on October 31, 2023, 05:38:42 PM
Was just listening to a podcast with John Campbell, he's mentioned in this thread quite a lot and was always interesting to listen to during the pandemic.
I find the whole Covid enquiry approach is pretty much guaranteed to ensure we learn almost nothing from the experience that will ensure we would handle something like this better in the future.
It seems way too focused on the Government's clown like behaviours, uselessness and corruption than the more serious issue of whether the nature of the generally supported response (lockdowns, speedy introduction of new tech vaccines, closing schools etc) were actually better than doing nothing and serve as any kind of model for a future response.
He was good to listen to for the first year or so, but then he was either taken in by, or saw how much more money his channel was making when he entered the world of woo.
His accounts show what is more likely to be the reason, and it has been fascinting to watch him continue to play his audience, most of whom abused him until late 2021
If we'd done nothing, then I've seen it suggested that Neil Ferguson would likely have been right with his modelling. The one that's always used to ridicule him, which was in fact based on us doing nothing. Most people act like it was what he said it would be if we took the path we did.
Vaccines aren't actually new tech, and Malone invented them years ago, according to him. Campbell likely told his audience back then, but now will definitely be alluding to them being, as he's aligned with the likes of Malhotra & Norman Fenton etc.
I've not watched a bit of the thing, other than a few clips of Barnard Castle being quoted for abusing Hancock on whatsapp
Think all we'll find out, is what we've known all along. Most politicians are shithouses.
Like to think I wouldn't cave for the money, but everyone has a price as we can see from Campbell's company accounts.
Click to see full-size image.
Logged
Burning $$$ in Vegas 2021
http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=68840.0
Karabiner
Hero Member
Offline
Posts: 22762
James Webb Telescope
Re: COVID19
«
Reply #4564 on:
November 01, 2023, 06:15:49 PM »
Quote from: Pokerpops on November 01, 2023, 12:10:26 PM
Quote from: nirvana on October 31, 2023, 05:38:42 PM
Was just listening to a podcast with John Campbell, he's mentioned in this thread quite a lot and was always interesting to listen to during the pandemic.
I find the whole Covid enquiry approach is pretty much guaranteed to ensure we learn almost nothing from the experience that will ensure we would handle something like this better in the future.
It seems way too focused on the Government's clown like behaviours, uselessness and corruption than the more serious issue of whether the nature of the generally supported response (lockdowns, speedy introduction of new tech vaccines, closing schools etc) were actually better than doing nothing and serve as any kind of model for a future response.
Agree.
Possibly the only lesson that we will learn is that using Snapchat as a government tool is inadvisable. It’s an instant format that is best used for trivia; sharing memes and off colour jokes and that seems to have leached into the discussions held on it.
We should be learning about why we were so ill-prepared and why we indulged in some indiscriminate spending on stuff that should have been sourced through established contracts with established suppliers. Not from any Tom Dick or Harry that turned their hand from cosmetics, car sales or desk manufacture to the fleecing of the nation via inflated prices on basic stuff.
It begs the question about all government procurement. Why is it not on an audited agreed profit margin? Lots of industries work this way, why not government?
I think I spotted a vague reference to giraffe-gate in there..
If you know you know
Logged
"Golf is deceptively simple and endlessly complicated. It satisfies the soul and frustrates the intellect. It is at the same time maddening and rewarding and it is without a doubt the greatest game that mankind has ever invented." - Arnold Palmer aka The King.
nirvana
Hero Member
Offline
Posts: 7806
Re: COVID19
«
Reply #4565 on:
November 02, 2023, 06:33:23 PM »
Haha, we'll spotted
Logged
sola virtus nobilitat
StuartHopkin
Hero Member
Offline
Posts: 8165
Ocho cinco
Re: COVID19
«
Reply #4566 on:
November 06, 2023, 05:12:35 PM »
I spotted that one too!
Click to see full-size image.
Logged
Only 23 days to go until the Berlin Marathon! Please sponsor me at
www.virginmoneygiving.com/StuartHopkin
Pages:
1
...
301
302
303
304
[
305
]
« previous
next »
Jump to:
Please select a destination:
-----------------------------
Poker Forums
-----------------------------
=> The Rail
===> past blonde Bashes
===> Best of blonde
=> Diaries and Blogs
=> Live Tournament Updates
=> Live poker
===> Live Tournament Staking
=> Internet Poker
===> Online Tournament Staking
=> Poker Hand Analysis
===> Learning Centre
-----------------------------
Community Forums
-----------------------------
=> The Lounge
=> Betting Tips and Sport Discussion
Loading...