2023 WSOP

[tonytats]

When wsop is on it’s great there’s poker everywhere and vegas is buzzing all sizes of buy ins
As you get to the end of June it’s almost unbearable heat wise and is draining
Do not look at something and think 🤔 I can walk there ! Get an Uber or if on strip use the deuce bus 🚌
Best of all enjoy
I’ve been every year since 2004 apart from the covid years
Queues are ridiculous at wsop so try buying in v early or very late .
registration is open 24/7 from May 31 st
But you must have your passport
Don’t take hookers to your room or if you do lock valuables away first
Have a budget and try n stick to it

We are there for 5 weeks

[Doobs]

So I booked a flight.  Premium both ways apart from an economy leg into JFK where I have to change on the way back.  The overnight bit is premium so I think it will be fine. There when nobody else is.  5th June to 12 June.

Provisional is WSOP Limit O8 on the 6th.
Wynn $1100 NLH on the 7th
800 WSOP deepstack 2 dayer on the 11th.

Other than that there is another 1 or 2 Wynn 1100s (they look like 1 dayers but might be two and a 300 WSOP I might play and Aria and MGM grand haven't released schedules, so fingers crossed for a PLO8.  Golden nugget seems to be running a $200, 200k guaranteed all week, which looks like it could be too grim, as rake high and either I hang round all week for day 2 or suffer long alt lists on the last day.  Can see me going through that and getting a $400 min cash, think I might pass.  Venetian has 800 or 1600 hold ems which might work.

[Doobs]

Few things.

If anyone is looking there is a reward upper flight on the 5 June.  I saw it but went premium instead, would have cost me 40k/£200 more for upper.  Guessing that is effectively £600 more, but don't think I get that much value for it. Someone with more points could use it.

I can buy approx. 10,000 points for £100 with these flights, going to go for it. Does anyone think that is bad value?

Can get Wynn for £184 a night.  Looks like Horseshoe is about £60 less.  Despite the convenience of the Horseshoe, think the Wynn is worth the extra and there is a good chance I play as much at the Wynn as Horseshoe this time.  Would everyone else go for the Wynn on these prices? Was genuinely surprised on Wynn prices, it was something like 599 a night at the weekend last time I looked.

Has anyone ever used stayforlong?  They are stand out on the Horseshoe at about £85 a night (nearly everyone else is about 125). Has anyone used them?  Don't want to rock up and discover no room.  Am likely to just go for the Wynn, but could be useful for others.

[tonytats]

Surely Doobs it’s not just the room cost
But everything else is mega expensive? Drinks food tip expectations?

[Marky147]

Surely Doobs it’s not just the room cost
But everything else is mega expensive? Drinks food tip expectations?

Not really.

Coffee is expensive AF at Horseshoe/Paris etc.

Food at Wynn is at least good, whereas all food at WSOP is junk, and probably even more expensive.

Tip expectations aren't really any different at Wynn, it's the same everywhere.

Unless you're drinking at Stage Door, you're getting rinsed for drinks everywhere nowadays.

I'd book the Wynn, Doobs.

I'm actually contemplating cancelling a week in a Penthouse at Mandalay for $200, to pay RF and stay at Wynn with less FP&RC

[Marky147]

Few things.

If anyone is looking there is a reward upper flight on the 5 June.  I saw it but went premium instead, would have cost me 40k/£200 more for upper.  Guessing that is effectively £600 more, but don't think I get that much value for it. Someone with more points could use it.

I can buy approx. 10,000 points for £100 with these flights, going to go for it. Does anyone think that is bad value?

Can get Wynn for £184 a night.  Looks like Horseshoe is about £60 less.  Despite the convenience of the Horseshoe, think the Wynn is worth the extra and there is a good chance I play as much at the Wynn as Horseshoe this time.  Would everyone else go for the Wynn on these prices? Was genuinely surprised on Wynn prices, it was something like 599 a night at the weekend last time I looked.

Has anyone ever used stayforlong?  They are stand out on the Horseshoe at about £85 a night (nearly everyone else is about 125). Has anyone used them?  Don't want to rock up and discover no room.  Am likely to just go for the Wynn, but could be useful for others.

That seems a good price for 10,000 pts, but not sure if they have done anything to devalue them?

I'd be paying the extra to stay at Wynn, and I don't mind Ballys/Horseshoe.

I'm only there once a year, so want to be somewhere nice, not just getting my nut down for 6 hours every night like I did in my 20s.

[Doobs]

Surely Doobs it’s not just the room cost
But everything else is mega expensive? Drinks food tip expectations?

Not really.

Coffee is expensive AF at Horseshoe/Paris etc.

Food at Wynn is at least good, whereas all food at WSOP is junk, and probably even more expensive.

Tip expectations aren't really any different at Wynn, it's the same everywhere.

Unless you're drinking at Stage Door, you're getting rinsed for drinks everywhere nowadays.

I'd book the Wynn, Doobs.

I'm actually contemplating cancelling a week in a Penthouse at Mandalay for $200, to pay RF and stay at Wynn with less FP&RC

I booked the Wynn the day after I posted.  Nobody had answered and I didn't want to miss the price. As it was I had to pay the room and tax in advance and it worked out at over £200 a night just for that and I still owe about $400 in resort fees.  Never fails to shock me this bit even after getting stung every year.  Going to make sure I make full use of the pool and gym.

I managed to justify it by realising the extra cost of the Wynn Vs Horseshoe was likely less than I'd pay to upgrade from premium economy to upper and think Wynn Vs Horseshoe is going to be a more enjoyable upgrade (for me).   Each year I keep thinking it could be my last and would hate to bow out staying somewhere grim and bricking every tournament. 

Think if I was staying 5 weeks I'd be downtown or in the Holiday Inn, so it is just depends.  Certainly wasn't ever paying that 599 a night I saw at the weekend a month or two back.

On the food, the WSOP was pretty bad last year, think the WSOP kitchen was double the price of before and there didn't seem to be many convenient cheap options.  Pizza slice and drink was the cheap choice and that was near $20.  The steakhouse at Horseshoe was a lot more than I expected as it didn't look all that and ended up close to $300 for 2 of us.  I'd do a lot better at the Wynn for that.  Sure I'd work out better options if I stayed there though. 

On day 1 when I am queueing 2 hours to enter the O8, I'll be cursing my choice (it is a Tuesday and the 1.5k hold'em can't be as busy as the Goliath or millionaire maker, so thinking I'll be fine). 

And I could buy up to 20k miles when I clicked on the offer so did that for £200.  Don't think there is any guarantee they won't devalue them, but seems ok on today's value.  Got to gamble. 

[Marky147]

I've got Aria-Nomad-Circa-Cosmo-Mandalay at present, but will be working Wynn in there at some point after Circa.

Will likely be around July 4th, as I managed to snag a solo ADA seating ticket for Theo Von on 2nd July.

Like yourself, I say last year every time, but even though I low played every casino I stayed at last summer, I'm still getting offers.

After this year, I might be down to just rooms at Luxor, and the Nugget comps I've only just discovered and won't be using this year.

Couple years off wouldn't do me any harm, especially now we have a few UFC cards a year in London, too.

What dates are you heading out?

[Doobs]

Am out 5th to the 13th June, so will likely miss you.  I can't do the last 2 weeks in June when the PLO8/mixed O8 is on. 

Upside is I am home for Royal Ascot this time, always an upside.

[Marky147]

Am out 5th to the 13th June, so will likely miss you.  I can't do the last 2 weeks in June when the PLO8/mixed O8 is on. 

Upside is I am home for Royal Ascot this time, always an upside.

Yeah, miss you by a week.

Upside for me is missing Ascot

[KarmaDope]

Wynn just released their series.

[Marky147]

As they say 'the price of poker is going up'... Seems both Aria & Wynn have increased the prices of their base tourneys his year from what used to be $400, iirc.

Orleans just confirmed they'll have a full summer series, so be interesting to see what that is when they release it.

[Doobs]

As they say 'the price of poker is going up'... Seems both Aria & Wynn have increased the prices of their base tourneys his year from what used to be $400, iirc.

Orleans just confirmed they'll have a full summer series, so be interesting to see what that is when they release it.

Sure the daily used to be $200 at the Wynn when I started.  My big concern this year is the lack of alternatives. When I am there everyone seems to be running multi flight multi day tournaments.  I don't really want to be playing a $200 tournament with 9 flights that lasts a week.  There used to be multiple choices of one day (maybe 2 day) tournaments costing less than $500.  Now some days there aren't any.  The cost is definitely increasing, can see me playing Wynn 1100s on "days off"

[Marky147]

As they say 'the price of poker is going up'... Seems both Aria & Wynn have increased the prices of their base tourneys his year from what used to be $400, iirc.

Orleans just confirmed they'll have a full summer series, so be interesting to see what that is when they release it.

Sure the daily used to be $200 at the Wynn when I started.  My big concern this year is the lack of alternatives. When I am there everyone seems to be running multi flight multi day tournaments.  I don't really want to be playing a $200 tournament with 9 flights that lasts a week.  There used to be multiple choices of one day (maybe 2 day) tournaments costing less than $500.  Now some days there aren't any.  The cost is definitely increasing, can see me playing Wynn 1100s on "days off"

Yeah, it likely was a few years back, in the good old days when it was opposite the Ferrari garage

I guess they're all just trying to find the player pool that they're trying to hook, and the Wynn is understandably going for the bigger players.

Now I know we're going, I'm probably just going to play a few $200 dailies with my brother at the Nugget, as he doesn't play anymore, but wants to have a go.

There is a $500 bounty at MGM while I'm at Aria, so might take a drive down and play that one.

[Doobs]

As they say 'the price of poker is going up'... Seems both Aria & Wynn have increased the prices of their base tourneys his year from what used to be $400, iirc.

Orleans just confirmed they'll have a full summer series, so be interesting to see what that is when they release it.

Sure the daily used to be $200 at the Wynn when I started.  My big concern this year is the lack of alternatives. When I am there everyone seems to be running multi flight multi day tournaments.  I don't really want to be playing a $200 tournament with 9 flights that lasts a week.  There used to be multiple choices of one day (maybe 2 day) tournaments costing less than $500.  Now some days there aren't any.  The cost is definitely increasing, can see me playing Wynn 1100s on "days off"

Yeah, it likely was a few years back, in the good old days when it was opposite the Ferrari garage

I guess they're all just trying to find the player pool that they're trying to hook, and the Wynn is understandably going for the bigger players.

Now I know we're going, I'm probably just going to play a few $200 dailies with my brother at the Nugget, as he doesn't play anymore, but wants to have a go.

There is a $500 bounty at MGM while I'm at Aria, so might take a drive down and play that one.

$250

https://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/event.php?a=r&n=103919

Looking at the history, the Wynn were stlll running $100+25s in 2011.

I need to work it out

SpaceyFCBs spreadsheet is up, and he Wynn has been up there some time

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qZl4ZtHt2_dZjL2FX0dLINISJFemQm4UeUTZ329CiTU/edit#gid=185459973

Schedule will look something like this

6 June WSOP 1.5k O8 Limit
7 June Wynn 1100 or 550 Mixed O8 at MGM
8 June WSOP 1100 Omaha (not convinced I am good enough) or Aria 800 mystery bounty.  Could do with a day 2 at the Wynn to avoid dusting 1k in the Omaha..
9 June Wynn 1100
10 June WSOP Gladiators 300
11 June WSOP 800 deepstack
12 June 600 Aria (there is a 300 PLO8 at MGM grand but it starts at 6pm and I have an early flight.)

Just looking at this, the WSOP has got cheaper as everything else has got more expensive.

Annoyingly Venetian has put on an 800 PLO8 the day before I get there.