£1500 European Poker Classic at the Vic - LIVE UPDATE DAY TWO PROPER

[actionjack]

Jan is a great player, but even great players make mistakes! Aparently he thought Martin was weak and declared he thought Martin was on a 'squeeze' play.
n

Where does this leave Jan, chipwise?
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was he being squeezed when he called the 4800 early position raise with 68 os
from those and othet hands i saw him play i came to the conclusion that he is more than happy to have a gamble. That s not to say he is a bad player just happy to gamble at times .
Did he say why he thought martin wa son a squeeze play or did he just hope he was ?

I didn't get too in depth...it was the wrong play, and i personallly think it was a terrible play. Hope is probably the defining word there.

But as you know Paul the younger generation of players such as Antonius, Boeken, Ivey, Mizrachi take a slightly more agressive stance than the more experienced players. I think they play to win throughout the whole tournament and are willing to gamble in order to do this. Being permanently stuck in 5th gear thoough isn't always the right thing to do. I think thaat shoowed with the Martin v Jan pot..


lol

you ought to be playing sunday8pm not reporting

i doubt very much any of the players u mention would call an early position raise with 68 os for that amount of chips (4800 i think it was) from thier stacks and doubt they would make that play with A 10 in that spot.
there is a world of diffrence between being "slightly more aggressive"  and making gamble plays calling raises with junk and setting in oponents who have indicated big strength and are pretty well pot comitted, particularly when they have only put 7K into the pot and end up creating a 70K pot with an average hand.

sorry if i upset you i didnt mean to abuse yr  " pick for glory "

[Djinn]

go on marky 147 i beleive in u

He's still in, but with a stack short enough to be completely obscured by his hands when I walked by and tried to peek.

[vinni]

no ian woodley jen

[Djinn]

He's there too but no change from last report.  Sorry to frighten you vinni.

[jonnie5]

thank u u see him again tell him good luck

[actionjack]

Jen
is marc chip leader and how many left please ?

[Djinn]

Pascal's healthier stack came via Marc Goodwin, whose pocket was out-turned by Pascal's Ace-bit which spiked the Ace.  It wasn't all in preflop though.  And Marc is STILL a chip monster.  Losing the odd 30k doesn't slow him down one bit.

[vinni]

you wont frighten me
 im used to it

[jonnie5]

hello trace and thank u 4 welcoming me

[Sunday8pm]

Jan is a great player, but even great players make mistakes! Aparently he thought Martin was weak and declared he thought Martin was on a 'squeeze' play.
n

Where does this leave Jan, chipwise?
[/quote

was he being squeezed when he called the 4800 early position raise with 68 os
from those and othet hands i saw him play i came to the conclusion that he is more than happy to have a gamble. That s not to say he is a bad player just happy to gamble at times .
Did he say why he thought martin wa son a squeeze play or did he just hope he was ?

I didn't get too in depth...it was the wrong play, and i personallly think it was a terrible play. Hope is probably the defining word there.

But as you know Paul the younger generation of players such as Antonius, Boeken, Ivey, Mizrachi take a slightly more agressive stance than the more experienced players. I think they play to win throughout the whole tournament and are willing to gamble in order to do this. Being permanently stuck in 5th gear thoough isn't always the right thing to do. I think thaat shoowed with the Martin v Jan pot..


lol

you ought to be playing sunday8pm not reporting

i doubt very much any of the players u mention would call an early position raise with 68 os for that amount of chips (4800 i think it was) from thier stacks and doubt they would make that play with A 10 in that spot.
there is a world of diffrence between being "slightly more aggressive"  and making gamble plays calling raises with junk and setting in oponents who have indicated big strength and are pretty well pot comitted, particularly when they have only put 7K into the pot and end up creating a 70K pot with an average hand.

sorry if i upset you i didnt mean to abuse yr  " pick for glory "

When they call with these hands i'm sure its not the strength of it they think about, its who their playing against and position etc etc.

I couldn't play events like this, i only play online and would be more succesful if i could hold my discipline together better. the words wall, smash and glass fit together well!!...

Its great everyone has an opinion on these kinds of hands, its what makes the forum better and more interesting. Hands like these are a long way into advamced poker and allows the new starters to get an insight into how the professionals play and their thoughts behind the hands..

[snoopy1239]

Is Woody going to bring home the bacon.

I may wet myself if he takes down the trophy with A-J.

[Sunday8pm]

Is Woody going to bring home the bacon.

I'll may wet myself if he takes down the trophy with A-J.

or J8?

[Sunday8pm]

sorry this post is totally irrelevant, i just had to get my post count up from 666. not that im superstitious or anything!

[Djinn]

Marc is indeed chip leader with 32 left.  Although he's not as far in front as his Day 1 finish.

Blinds are still 1,000 - 2,000 ante 100 but they're going up in about five minutes.  Then maybe the sudden tight slow spell will pass leading to action with occasional outbreaks.

[actionjack]

thanks for the insight ben