$1-$2 NL cash hand

[Royal Flush]

Some cash help here please people!

Real Money Ring Game
Table Name Hand ID Game Stakes
When Harry Met Sally 8161887-5621 Holdem No Limit $1/$2
[Apr 21 19:03:58] : Hand Start.
[Apr 21 19:03:58] : Seat 1 : JeDean has $198.25
[Apr 21 19:03:58] : Seat 2 : kingspr has $200.25
[Apr 21 19:03:58] : Seat 3 : matxz1 has $12
[Apr 21 19:03:58] : Seat 4 : four40 has $198.25
[Apr 21 19:03:58] : Seat 5 : caroline10 has $206.50
[Apr 21 19:03:58] : Seat 6 : GSY ACE has $198
[Apr 21 19:03:58] : Seat 7 : Flush Royal has $193.50
[Apr 21 19:03:58] : Seat 8 : Leprechauno has $401.40
[Apr 21 19:03:58] : Seat 9 : MASTER9956 has $58
[Apr 21 19:03:58] : caroline10 is the dealer.
[Apr 21 19:03:58] : GSY ACE posted small blind.
[Apr 21 19:03:59] : Flush Royal posted big blind.
[Apr 21 19:03:59] : Game [5621] started with 9 players.
[Apr 21 19:03:59] : Dealing Hole Cards.
[Apr 21 19:03:59] : Seat 7 : Flush Royal has
[Apr 21 19:04:01] : Leprechauno folded.
[Apr 21 19:04:03] : MASTER9956 folded.
[Apr 21 19:04:03] : JeDean folded.
[Apr 21 19:04:11] : kingspr called $2
[Apr 21 19:04:13] : matxz1 called $2
[Apr 21 19:04:20] : four40 called $2
[Apr 21 19:04:20] : caroline10 folded.
[Apr 21 19:04:24] : GSY ACE folded.
[Apr 21 19:04:26] : Flush Royal checked.
[Apr 21 19:04:26] : Dealing flop.
[Apr 21 19:04:26] : Board cards [ ]

What to do? First to act

[Gamblor21]

check, with the intention to raise dependant on the action.

[totalise]

theres no specific reason to think you aren't ahead, and people behind aren't obliged to bet for you, so just go ahead and bet. IF someone raises, call and play the pot small, or raise him back depending on how both you and the villain (s) have played previous pots.. the board isn't draw heavy so you can get a pretty good line on his hand as the betting progresses (how do you pluralise that word?)


Given that marxz only has $10 left after limping, Id bet $5 rather then the full pot so you have the option to raise again if he stacks off.

I dont especially like the c/r here because it gets too little action from hands you are beating like Q9/Q10 etc.. and you have no reason to think anyone will bet given preflop proclivaties.

If everyone folds, then its likely that they had a hand that wouldn't give you action anyways unless they overtook you, so thats not especially sickening.

[Royal Flush]

[Apr 21 19:04:29] : Flush Royal bet $8
[Apr 21 19:04:37] : kingspr called $8
[Apr 21 19:04:40] : matxz1 called $8 and raised $2 and is All-in
[Apr 21 19:04:40] : Under-Raise rules are now in effect.
[Apr 21 19:04:48] : four40 called $10 and raised $8
[Apr 21 19:04:53] : Flush Royal called $10
[Apr 21 19:04:58] : kingspr called $10
[Apr 21 19:04:59] : Dealing turn.
[Apr 21 19:04:59] : Board cards [ ]
[Apr 21 19:05:01] : Flush Royal checked.
[Apr 21 19:05:11] : kingspr checked.
[Apr 21 19:05:14] : four40 bet $16

Now?

[Gamblor21]

any info on the players???

at the mo i think four40 could have kq qj q10 qrag 33 or 77. This is with no info tho, i may go out there with my q rag call and say Q7 suited.

looks like your just going to call him down tho.

(royal flush advice would be normally be move allin and reload!)

[sharpy]

  I would raise here and try and get kingspr out the way

  four40 always USE TO play pocket pairs hard pre flop so I would probably discount trips(.25/.50 level mind)

  A raise to $50 should see him call with top pair or raise with the made straight (for some reason he never use to trap)

[Royal Flush]

(royal flush advice would be normally be move allin and reload!)

In a comp i would check raise all in!!

I am playign 2 tables he is on both of them and he has been playing me off a lot of pots, although i havent seen his hands.

[The Baron]

I would have check-raised the flop to any smallish bet, as you find out where you are more cheaply. If you raise now that the turn is down, it's $32 minimum - not small compared to your stack.

I would now probably call this and back off to any sizeable river bet. Say in the pot sized reigon.

[totalise]

I'd just call here, this is one of those spots that if you are ahead, you are going to have him drawing skinny.. and if you are behind, you wont have many outs on the river.. Way Ahead Way Behind.. and lest us not forget the potential snake in the grass that is lurking in between you two. Trying to get to showdown cheap is likely the best avenue here.

I just saw your post where you say "I am playign 2 tables he is on both of them and he has been playing me off a lot of pots, although i havent seen his hands." so this is prolly a good chance to let him try and do so again. One thing is for sure, your hand is stronger then he will expect it to be

[The Baron]

I'd just call here, this is one of those spots that if you are ahead, you are going to have him drawing skinny.. and if you are behind, you wont have many outs on the river.. Way Ahead Way Behind.. and lest us not forget the potential snake in the grass that is lurking in between you two. Trying to get to showdown cheap is likely the best avenue here.

Well said.

[sharpy]

  The info I have on him is 2 months old.That is 2 months ago he was playing .25/.50 level
 
  He must be on a good upswing because he wasn't pulling up any trees when I use to play him

[Royal Flush]

[Apr 21 19:05:16] : Flush Royal called $16
[Apr 21 19:05:17] : kingspr called $16
[Apr 21 19:05:18] : Dealing river.
[Apr 21 19:05:18] : Board cards [ ]

Good post totalise, thats what i was thinking, keep it small, now i river 2 pair!

First to act what to do! Pot is now about $120

[totalise]

a real blessing and a curse! if he has the set, you are fixing to lose a lot of money on this hand all of a sudden. Its real hard to assign him a proper hand other then a set , as you wouldn't expect him to be limping with Q7/37/Q3... and given there are no draws out there,  you are looking at Qx or a set or a complete bluff. Given that you dont get money by betting if he is on a bluff (although you mite get some $ from the snake in the grass)  and that you lose a ton by betting if he has a set, I dont really mind again just checking and calling, but then again, I dont mind betting here either.. although you would feel quite ill if he raised you up, and he has shown a real tendancy to do so, which is why I sway towards checking and letting him try and hang himself if he is bluffing, and lose less the times he has the feared set. If the maggot wasn't lurking in between, I would be more inclined to bet I think but that dude is a real mystery

[Bongo]

I'd check call.

I think betting is bad for 2 reasons:

1) If he's been bluffing and holds nothing he is likely to pass and you miss out on any bet he'd make on the river
2) I'd absolutely hate a reraise here!

[TightEnd]

check call now

you might want to value bet but it might not be a value bet, and you will have to call reluctantly if it goes bet from you raise from him

I would forgo the opportunity to value bet here.

 No action from him now if he has been bluffing, and as you really have no idea what he has minimise potential damage. The range of outcomes here is skewed towards you checking


I also bet out on the flop and then proceed to showdown as cheaply as he allows me. At no point do I see a fold here.