small boat

[Ironside]

ok you have just lost 3/4 of your stack in a bad beat but the blinds are not crippling

and this happens

PokerStars Game #4793606648: Tournament #23910632, $3+$0 Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2006/04/30 - 18:45:58 (ET)
Table '23910632 13' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: voucherman (8840 in chips)
Seat 2: Gunnar69 (9500 in chips)
Seat 3: batscarer (10800 in chips)
Seat 4: matrix777 (14005 in chips)
Seat 5: SkunkMom (5125 in chips)
Seat 6: RalphWiggam (10930 in chips)
Seat 7: BadDNA1 (4955 in chips)
Seat 8: Kost0234 (8225 in chips)
Seat 9: Ironside (5810 in chips)
batscarer: posts small blind 75
matrix777: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Ironside [ ]
SkunkMom: folds
RalphWiggam: folds
BadDNA1: folds
Kost0234: folds
Ironside: calls 150
voucherman: folds
Gunnar69: folds
batscarer: calls 75
matrix777: raises 600 to 750
Ironside: calls 600
batscarer: calls 600
*** FLOP *** [ ]
batscarer: checks
matrix777: bets 1800




what do you do next and why?

[Colchester Kev]

stick all your chips in and hope he calls

[Dewi_cool]

fold coz its a bad beat story

[Bongo]

call and hope to get all his chips in on the turn

[NoflopsHomer]

I'd push here, you're more likely to get calls from overpairs which may put you on a draw or possibly calls from hands such as 

[SupaMonkey]

Me too, it is unexpected and he may think you are on tilt and trying to win your chips back.

[Ironside]

ok i wanted a full double up here so went down the call and wait till he gets help route so he doesnt fold

Ironside: calls 1800
batscarer: folds
*** TURN *** [ ] []
matrix777: checks
Ironside: bets 150
matrix777: raises 1050 to 1200




when he checked i thought he must have me on a 5 or he is drawing to the flush with AK and wants a free card so i will build the pot wasnt expecting the reraise though so what do i do now?

[Josh]

Stick it all in and hope it wasn't me raising with Jack 5 for a laugh

[totalise]

pot is 5850.. and you decide to "build the pot" by betting 150? you only have 3260, try and figure out how much he will call, and then bet that much.If he has JJ then you lose.. ul gg, but thats not all he can have... he can have almost any overpair, diamonds... double barrelling the bluff/a random 5... who knows/cares, if you got your stack in the middle everytime you are in this situation (ie a flopped boat vs a preflop raiser) you would profit handsomely from poker, so just proceed and push your whole stack or most of it in the middle (w/ever you think the most he will call is)

[dik9]

Pass to his pair of Jacks in the hole, as said earlier, it's gonna be a 50p in the kitty!

[Royal Flush]

I call the flop to try to get the 3rd player in, on the turn i bet 1/3 my stack or 1/3 the pot whichever is more.

[Bongo]

On the turn I still want to get all my chips into the pot, but I want to do it in a way that would get all his in too.

Depending on which I thought would gt more chips from him I'd either go all in after his raise or call and see if he fancies betting the river...

[NoflopsHomer]

On the turn I still want to get all my chips into the pot, but I want to do it in a way that would get all his in too.

Depending on which I thought would gt more chips from him I'd either go all in after his raise or call and see if he fancies betting the river...

But if you raise or move in on the flop, you're more likely to get action from drawing dead flush hunters as well as overpairs.

[Ironside]

i think i'll play it smart knwoing he will bet out on river then i can get a full double up

Ironside: calls 1050
*** RIVER *** [ ] []
matrix777: bets 1350
Ironside: raises 710 to 2060 and is all-in
matrix777: calls 710


and dik here is your 50p


*** SHOW DOWN ***
Ironside: shows [ ] (a full house, Fours full of Fives)
matrix777: shows [ ] (a full house, Jacks full of Fives)
matrix777 collected 12370 from pot


and i wonder why i gave up playing MTTs

[Colchester Kev]

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