Leeds Utd a sad sad story.

[sovietsong]

Cheers mate!

[Longy]

weeeeeeeeeee cracking result for Leeds us and Charlton, extra time and Leeds to win on pens in the replay, kthxbye.

[outragous76]

WP Leeds, after weathering that first half, you deserve a replay.

kev that is very gracious - i thought the decision was a joke

[Horneris]

Best impressions are the ones of O'Leary and Alan Hansen imo.

[pokefast]

Thought Leeds were excellent, played some good stuff and thoroughly deserved a replay.

First time i've seen Leeds this season, but how are they not well clear at the top of the league is beyond me.

[Acidmouse]

Brucie bonus Charlton losing at home tonight!

3 games in hand and 3 points ahead of them now.

[Longy]

Brucie bonus Charlton losing at home tonight!

3 games in hand and 3 points ahead of them now.

QFT great result tonight.

[mondatoo]

I'm guessing the cup replay will be a sellout yeah ?

Plus on tv means a nice payday for you

[Acidmouse]

I'm guessing the cup replay will be a sellout yeah ?

Plus on tv means a nice payday for you

Yeah i would expect so. The telephone lines were almost busto this morning but most of ground already sold out.  i think we will have been on TV 13 times this season.. least bates is making some money

[gatso]

Brucie bonus Charlton losing at home tonight!

3 games in hand and 3 points ahead of them now.

we were truly awful tonight, possibly the worst performance this season

really strange feeling around the ground at the end, we'd not lost at home for 10 months and noone knew how to react

[sovietsong]

Season ticket holders seats have been reserved so no rush to get my spurs tickets.

I wonder if the money we've made from the fa cup is going to be added to the funds we got for delph or if grayson is always going to be expected to do it on free transfers and loans?

[Colchester Kev]

Season ticket holders seats have been reserved so no rush to get my spurs tickets.

I wonder if the money we've made from the fa cup is going to be added to the funds we got for delph or if grayson is always going to be expected to do it on free transfers and loans?

LOL you poor optimistic fool ... Master Bates owns your mob, the money will be in his Bahamas bank account before grayson gets the chance to use a spanner to get 50p out of Bates' hand !!

[Acidmouse]

Taken from WACCOE, so its a often debated topic amoungst leeds fan kev, we know hes fleecing us.

Like quite a few other Leeds fans I am a bit concerned about the lack of transparency with regard to the amounts of money coming in and going out of the club since administration.

We have had one set of accounts published since administration which I downloaded and read. I am not going to pretend I understood most of the info in the report, but I seem to recall it stated something like a 4 million pound profit, although only about 900 k of this was operating profit, the remainder being profit on disposal of players.

I also seem to recall Bates making a statement about needing something along the lines of a 22, 000 average to break even and budgeting to get knocked out of all cup competitions in the first round.

The two main items that concern me are : -

The regularity of the accounts, I was a shareholder when we were a PLC and received a regular interim and annual report (which did not help to warn me of the financial mess we were in), but have not seen published accounts from Bates with the same regularity.

Does anyone know when Bates legally has to publish the next set of accounts ?

The other concern I and I would imagine a lot other Leeds fans have, is the amount of money that seems to have come in to the club since administration (that exceeds Bates stated break even figure), but does not seem to be going out of the club in Transfer fees, ground improvements or the buy back of facilities.

Without any published accounts it is difficult to keep track or know exact amounts, but from memory there seems to be the following items of money coming in since administartion that are above Bates break even gate money figure : -

Transfer/Compensation Fees

Wise compensation from Newcastle
Poyet compensation from Spurs
Reported 4/5 million compensation for Tom Taiwo and Michael Woods from Chelsea
Reported 800k for compensation from George Swan and Louis Hutton from Man City
Reported 600k for compensation for Luke Garbut
Reported 6million transfer fee for Fabian Delph
Reported sell on clause fee of 1 million for James Milner
Reported sell on clause fee of 400k for Mathew Killgalon

Gates above break even figure

Play off semi finals against Carlisle
Play off final against Doncaster.
Play off semi final against Milwall
League Cup Game against Liverpool
FA Cup game against Man Utd
FA Cup game against Spurs

There are a lot of estimates in the above figures, I have never seen any reported figures for Wise and Poyet, but if I use a conservative figure of 250k apiece, then the transfer money/compensation received since administration seem to be around 14 million pounds.

I would have thought that with capacity crowds and TV money that the above extra games would have raised at least another 2 million.

Which is around 16 million ‘extra’ money coming in to the club that does not appear to be going out or accounted for in any published accounts, if you add this to the 4 million profit reported in the accounts then we should have 20 million pound to spend !

What I would like to know if anyone can be bothered is, what are the dates for all the compensation or transfer fees, am I double counting some of this, i.e. was some of this money included in the last published accounts ?

Have I missed any other major incoming monies from my list ?

Am I being unfair on Bates are the incoming figures inflated and is there a similar list of unexpected outgoing costs or transfer fees that I have not recognised ?

[TightEnd]

Reputedly you've paid £250,000 for Gradel plus 20% sell on.

Anything from the Leeds end on this figure? Hasn't been released by either club

You've got a good deal there if he can kick on to be a full time player as well as an impact sub.

[Linux]

£250k sounds about right  i guesstimated we would have paid around £300k