What's justice?

[Claw75]

as everyone seems to have their own idea what a 'chav' is - from dictionary.com:

nothing about chucking bricks through windows as far as I can see...

Main Entry:     chav
Part of Speech:     noun
Definition:     the lower class; uneducated and ignorant people
Etymology:     perh. Romany chav child
Usage:     derogatory slang

[bolt pp]

these Ned's/chavs stab and rob my friends for fun and steal are racist now not one of the options given can do justice i would happily pull the trigger my self because these people are the scum of the earth i rate them the same as shit on my shoe.

an eye for an eye.

what you sitting around on a forum for then? sounds like you know the ones that robbed your freinds, go and get them.


  sometimes we don't  

batmobile in for repairs that week?

[Sark79]

I thought a chav wore highland tweed jackets and dressed in fox hunting gear?    I learn something new each day on here 


I still want to know where Sam Becket is?  He can't just disapear, he must be somewhere

[TheGreenOne]

Everyday's a school day Sark 

[thetank]

I prefer the term Ned.

It's an ancronym for Non-educated delinquent.

The non-educated part is a bitty dodgy. In itself that certainly doesn't make someone ungroovy.
Look at Ironside, he's a good lad, never been to school.

But the delinquent part makes it clearer what we're talking about.

[Ginger]

The difference between a chav and a non chav is essentially ethics/morals. Chavs are generally kids who know they can get away with lot, they have no fear so they do what they like (unless they are by themselves). Chavs will stone your house/nick your car stereo where non-chavs know this is wrong and don't do it. As a consequence you find that one group do not like to hang out with other and obviously the two groups don't get on. One group does not like to be associated with the other hence they dress differently, act differently etc.

Sounds like the perfect description of Chav/non Chav to me. Thankfully I have moved away from Chav Central now (council estate in Manchester) and no longer have these cretins on my doorstep every evening.

I think it can be easy to generalise anyone under the age of 21 that wears fake labels or trackies as a Hoody or Chav, that isn't the case as they are and should be defined through their mindset/behaviour.  I use to have a lovely girl babysit for me, and to look at her the word 'chav' would spring to mind immediately, actually she was a extremely bright girl doing VERY well in school, well manered (wouldn't use the PC or phone ever!!) and fantastic but strict parents. She simple use to like the clothes that they wore....

[Sark79]

When I was young ( about 5 ) we used to call Neds,Chavs,etc 'Casuals'.  Back then they were probably viewed by adults as those mentioned in this thread are now.  The difference was back then they generally didn't rob you and steal your MP3 player 

[Gryff]

Some of the words used to describe the group of people we are discussing were originally used to describe Gypsies, its a misapropriation of the word ).

Its just a group of words used to describe the social subcultre these people belong to, yes its a stereotype but no more than "middle class".

Any word can be made derorgatory but it depends entirely on the context.

And damnit, we're taking Porchmonkey back!

[RED-DOG]

Red-dog, i don't understand your question (about the gypsies).

It's a simple one. Have you ever heard Gypsies described in similar terms to the way you described Chavs in your first post?

The only time i have ever heard any derogatory about Gypsies is when i lived near Milton Keynes. Everytime the gypsies stay nearby (to the gym i went to) you were to told to make sures tyres (on 4x4s etc.) were put in your boot because everytime they stayed nearby those sorts of things went missing. However, the gypsies are a group of people who reside all over the world so it is not possible to make generalisations about them.

You would be surprised how often entire races of people are described in derogatory terms. All credited with the same traits.

Jews, Blacks, Asians, Gypsies... Or maybe not a race, but a group. Asylum seekers, Hells Angels, football fans, the poor, the homeless...  

All I am saying is, judge people as individuals

[thetank]

And damnit, we're taking Porchmonkey back!

4 Life 

[RED-DOG]

BTW The word Chavvy, is the Romany word for child.

[Wardonkey]

Any word can be made derorgatory but it depends entirely on the context.

Please use the word 'chav' in a context that is not derogatory.

[thetank]

BTW The word Chavvy, is the Romany word for child.

Yeah, Claw mwentioned that too.

I never realised, don't think I'll be using the word again.

[mikkyT]

I'm baffled by the response to this poll.  I am from Chatham where it is said the Chav culture began and it was a label that was originally given almost in a kind of jovial manner but has since become known nationwide and applied across all our counties.  My poll was simply designed to create some humour and get some fun ideas, it should not be taken too seriously 

"Chav"culture did not begin in chattam. Chavs have been around since before the word was invented. They have existed in their various forms for decades.

[thetank]

Any word can be made derorgatory but it depends entirely on the context.

Please use the word 'chav' in a context that is not derogatory.

Technically, you just did that yourself.