APAT UK Amateur Poker Championship

[tikay]

but then theres the freepost address on the back of the chocolate bar that you can write to to be entered into the draw meaning you do not have to purchase the said item.

..but not everyone can write...or read.

[booder]

just noticed this thread.........could someone explain please what the APAT is ?  and whether professionals are allowed to enter ?

thank you

confused from Norfolk

[turny]

I like the suggestions these threads spring up. If it wasn't for people who ask questions about why things happen the payout structure for example may have remained the same and fewer problems wouldl be resolved/discussed.

I know people making suggestions/complaining is a pain in the ass for the APAT team but thats why Blonde is so good, you aint ever gonna get away with hiding the real issues or brushing stuff under the table (Not for one second saying that APAT have done this, but its more a general statement).

The idea of online qualifiers for a "set aside 10 seats" at every live event sounds a wicked suggestion. Almost like a 2nd chance for those who didn't get lucky and secure there seat from the original ballot/click feast/random lotto.

Yes - it caught my eye too!

And yes, I love the blonde ethos where we can chew the cud on these things, long may it last. I get a little exasparated when folks get over-excited, as a few did last night, but it takes all sorts I guess, & tolerance is a wonderful thing.

and one of the worse for "over excitement" last nite was your very own director des!
i put this down to the extraordinary stress arranging this event has caused him

Correct, & quite possibly.

He knows that, we've chatted about it. Hence Tighty & me are front line today. Des has worked his socks off & no sooner had he announced than he got knocked about, but in his defence, he was the provoked, not the provoker. Two Posters made 8 Posts in less than 15 minutes on the same subject, before he'd had chance to draw breath!

Let's move on, eh? I am dealing with this MY way now, I'm the Chairman, & I'm answering every single question, with Tighty's much appreciated help.

i agree tony he was provoked but as director of apat he should be prepared for the flak that often follows and acted more proffesionally.

also tony as far as moving on i think ul find its yourself that brought up last nite to state that some members get over excited (by the 2 i gather u mean m3 and sherriff) i was just stating the over excitedness was on both sides of the apat coin member/shareholder.

and in no way is this an attack on des as i think hes a throughly nice guy and i appreciate all hes trying to do for poker and apat members.


lets move on  

[bigalhx1]

just got in after being rained off and the sun is now cracking the flags so can i play tikay in a 1 on 1 to get my lost wages back m8 . i think that red dog has it spot on with 2 sales and  that must keep most happy (or is that impossible). wot is the added prize this time tikay is it a ept or a wsop and good luck today apat i think your doing your best and some should appreciate the work you must be putting in you own time for free

[turny]

We had many many requests not to do a "seats go on sale at one time" clickfest too

So we'll set a window, and those that are able can buy a seat by registering when the link opens.

The reason stated for doing this is so that dial-up users aren't disadvantaged.  However, I'm puzzled as to how this is achieved.  Surely, if its a case of the website going live, then broadband users will still get the info more quickly so the only thing that is achieved is that people are inconvenienced for a longer period during the 'window' (dial up users will be connected via the phone line too, thus potentially running up phone bills).

Consequently, the system developed doesn't actually solve the problem it is trying to avoid.  People trying to sign up will be inconvenienced for a longer period than if they were for a single sale time and, by delaying the announcement as to when the time/window is, they are also being given less opportunity to make plans to be available.

The underlying assumption made to justify this was that 'we'll all be sat at our PCs playing poker anyway' but that simply isn't the case for the 'typical recreational player' that APAT is aimed at.  Consequently, the people who will most likely benefit from this are the semi-pro type players who can and will be available for however long it takes to register on Saturday.  Those with jobs, hobbies, family commitments, etc will potentially be the ones who lose out because, apparently, 'they don't want it enough'.

I, like many others, missed out on the first event and didn't kick up a big fuss about it.  Chances are, under the system for event two I will miss out again unless I get lucky with the 'window of opportunity'.  That is not the reason why I raised the issue yesterday.  The fact is that the 'system' developed doesn't, as far as I can see it, solve the problem it is trying to avoid but, in an effort to please those who have requested a 'clickfest' be avoided, it inconveniences a bigger proportion of the membership in a way that could have been avoided.

Sheriff

 

[tikay]

just got in after being rained off and the sun is now cracking the flags so can i play tikay in a 1 on 1 to get my lost wages back m8 . i think that red dog has it spot on with 2 sales and  that must keep most happy (or is that impossible). wot is the added prize this time tikay is it a ept or a wsop and good luck today apat i think your doing your best and some should appreciate the work you must be putting in you own time for free

Red's suggestion is excellent, but technically, very difficult indeed to set up. We shall see.

The Added Seat this time is for the 2007 WSOP Main Event in Vegas, plus Expenses.

[Foggy]

Here are consecutive Posts from Page 4 of this thread.....

"....Set a time on Saturday,and state that those who entered the first tour aren't allowed to apply until Monday at a set time.

I'm sure the vast majority would be happy with that....."

Followed by.....

"....Wooaaaa....lets all play fair....it should be open to all. A time is set and its first come first served.......Wasnt that the initial intention form the first live event. The apat will always struggle to please all, however i think the majority are satisfied, im sure this will be another sell out and exceptional event, i hope to make it if the wife allows!...."

As you can see, we have opposite views that in both cases think "the majority" would be happy.....!

So fire away, by all means, but please understand, it's not easy to please everyone.

Well OK how about everyone who made the ranking points in the last live event are guaranteed a seat?

 

[turny]

just got in after being rained off and the sun is now cracking the flags so can i play tikay in a 1 on 1 to get my lost wages back m8 . i think that red dog has it spot on with 2 sales and  that must keep most happy (or is that impossible). wot is the added prize this time tikay is it a ept or a wsop and good luck today apat i think your doing your best and some should appreciate the work you must be putting in you own time for free

Red's suggestion is excellent, but technically, very difficult indeed to set up. We shall see.

The Added Seat this time is for the 2007 WSOP Main Event in Vegas, plus Expenses.

and a fantastic achievement for apat to get this added to the prize fund  

[Foggy]

sorry wrong buttoned.

Perhaps we should just let the ranking players enter,that would give you a better chance and we could read about the tournament later

[tikay]

sorry wrong buttoned.

Perhaps we should just let the ranking players enter,that would give you a better chance and we could read about the tournament later

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[Sheriff Fatman]

Des has worked his socks off & no sooner had he announced than he got knocked about, but in his defence, he was the provoked, not the provoker. Two Posters made 8 Posts in less than 15 minutes on the same subject, before he'd had chance to draw breath!

Since when does asking for information/clarification in a polite manner become provocation?  I happened to be there when the email landed and responded to it.  I made two subsequent posts, one responding to M3, who hadn't at that point seen the email I was referring to, and one responding to a comment made by Kev.

Quite how that can be interpreted as to me provoking Des personally is beyond me.

Sheriff

[bigalhx1]

if its a wsop thats me out then as i have a slight problem entering the states with the local sheriff good luck and all the best with this one

[tikay]

Des has worked his socks off & no sooner had he announced than he got knocked about, but in his defence, he was the provoked, not the provoker. Two Posters made 8 Posts in less than 15 minutes on the same subject, before he'd had chance to draw breath!

Since when does asking for information/clarification in a polite manner become provocation?  I happened to be there when the email landed and responded to it.  I made two subsequent posts, one responding to M3, who hadn't at that point seen the email I was referring to, and one responding to a comment made by Kev.

Quite how that can be interpreted as to me provoking Des personally is beyond me.

Sheriff

I said there were 8 Posts from 2 Posters in the first 15 minutes, & I think thats a bit heavy, personally. Let's agree to differ.

I'm not here to argue with folks, I'm trying to move on.

[Royal Flush]

Absolutely, I personally let go a couple of misplays to my own disadvantage.
Most obvious case being a young chap flat called out of turn, I had KK and even though could have screwed him allowed him to change his call to a pass after I raised.

It's not a case of letting him do it, he is allowed too. If he calls out of turn but then you raise then the action has changed and he is now allowed to pass.

[Zebediah]

Absolutely, I personally let go a couple of misplays to my own disadvantage.
Most obvious case being a young chap flat called out of turn, I had KK and even though could have screwed him allowed him to change his call to a pass after I raised.

It's not a case of letting him do it, he is allowed too. If he calls out of turn but then you raise then the action has changed and he is now allowed to pass.

True yes, but would have to pay the original call amount. Hey...I'm not a pro. lol