Quick Hello and P4C

[Trace]

Andy Don is in the process of posting on this thread.

[Rooky9]

Does anyone know what the relationship is between Game for Life and Game for Life Enterprises Limited?

[TheJagster]

Sorry I haven't post again when clearly a lot has been said here - I'm meant to be at the office!!!

There is clearly some misunderstanding here to say the least which I am going to try to clear up. There are also some comments on here (some have been removed) which are more accusatory and I am taking these personally. If that is not the correct thing to do then so be it  but I have personal and emotional reasons for being involved with P4C and Game For Life which I will not air here.

There has been a difference in interpretation or understanding as to what we set out to do in this event. 8.53pm last night was the first I knew of this as a problem however and I have spoken to Maureen by PM and assured her that I will am looking into the event to see if any errors have been made either by us or due to unforeseen circumstance that we can both rectify and learn from.

To the matter at hand.

When Davey confirmed the details of the event I was delighted that we would be in a position to help fellow poker player. I had met Maureen before and liked and respected her which of course helped!

To find out at this late stage that rather than helping at all but to quote Tikay causing distress is very upsetting to me personally.

Now that I am aware of it I can try to do something about it - but as far as I know no-one at P4C knew of the problem until last night.

Turning to the hospital money - matters are I think clear but not as Tikay has outlined them.

I tried to confirm the difference between a donation and a grant in my earlier post. It was a conscious decision to only award grants so that we knew what the money we gave was being spent on as far as possible.

So the money we give is by way of grants for specific projects. Where possible we like to buy what is needed and pass that over - if this is not practical, for example, the purchase of specialised medical equipment, then we will give money but only a distinct and defined purpose. I whole heartedly believe that this is the correct approach.

In the case of Booth Hall we have been asked, more than once, to go via the hospital trust by the people on the Ward who Maureen asked us to speak to. This includes a call this morning that I asked Davey to make to confirm that we had not got it wrong.

This is a matter of fact. This may (I am unsure) be due to the awarding of a grant to the hospital but that is the Charity's rules and I cannot change them. We must also adhere to the hospital's rules.

I do not want a cheque to be sent to the main mailing address at the hospital with no knowledge of where it is going. I want to know precisely what it is being spent on and if possible that it is going to the Ward that Maureen asked us to earmark.

CONCLUSION - I will try my utmost to sort this out and am sorry that I wasn't aware of it sooner. This is important. Tikay seems to have had the time to speak to everyone concerned other than anyone at P4C.

If I had known about this earlier I would have done something earlier and some of the embarrassment and distress could have been avoided.

(Tony- I have PM'd my number - please call me - there are matters in your earlier post I want to discuss with you personally.)

Thanks all for listening. I will post on this subject again when I have positive news.

Andy   (Chairman - Game For Life)

[North Angel]

Does anyone know what the relationship is between Game for Life and Game for Life Enterprises Limited?

Game for Life enterprises limited is a wholly owned subsidiary of the charity game for life.

This is because of charity legislation on charities trading. For example oxfam shops are run by a wholly owned trading company of oxfam the charity

[Rooky9]

Does anyone know what the relationship is between Game for Life and Game for Life Enterprises Limited?

Game for Life enterprises limited is a wholly owned subsidiary of the charity game for life.

This is because of charity legislation on charities trading. For example oxfam shops are run by a wholly owned trading company of oxfam the charity

Thank you

[Dingdell]

Andy - thanks for the response - I for one would like an even clearer reply. From the money collected on the night what has been already donated and to where? What is remaining and what are the charity's intentions with this?

I understand what you are saying about ensuring that money donated to the hospital goes to the right place - how much is this please?

My intention with these questions is not to accuse, merely to clear up outstanding questions and remove any doubt about the charity from any blonde members minds. I think that answers to these questions would probably achieve that and help future relationships with the charity. Look forward to your reply,
Tracey.

[TheJagster]

I can't believe the direction this thread has taken.

Things are being hinted at here that are bang out of order.

My loyalty lies with P4C, always has, always will.

I don't have the answers you are all looking for.

And I can't smooth any ruffled feathers.

Nothing is as it seems folks.

Emotions are running high on all sides, this all could of been handled so differently, but the damage has now been done.

Not much else I can say really, so maybe I just won't.

I'm sure you are right - I hope you are Trace - like you I always want to assume the best about people, but it does seem strange that this charity is late in filing it's company return as well......come on gameforlife just reply with answers and this will all dissappear in a flash - not answering makes it all look more suspicious than it is - hopefully.

errrrr   they wouldn't have been if some muppet   (me!) hadn't forgotten a signature and they were returned. They are there now.

[sofa----king]

Andy - thanks for the response - I for one would like an even clearer reply. From the money collected on the night what has been already donated and to where? What is remaining and what are the charity's intentions with this?

I understand what you are saying about ensuring that money donated to the hospital goes to the right place - how much is this please?

My intention with these questions is not to accuse, merely to clear up outstanding questions and remove any doubt about the charity from any blonde members minds. I think that answers to these questions would probably achieve that and help future relationships with the charity. Look forward to your reply,
Tracey.

[TheJagster]

Andy - thanks for the response - I for one would like an even clearer reply. From the money collected on the night what has been already donated and to where? What is remaining and what are the charity's intentions with this?

I understand what you are saying about ensuring that money donated to the hospital goes to the right place - how much is this please?

My intention with these questions is not to accuse, merely to clear up outstanding questions and remove any doubt about the charity from any blonde members minds. I think that answers to these questions would probably achieve that and help future relationships with the charity. Look forward to your reply,
Tracey.

Yes Tracey I know....but that will take longer.   Bare with me.

[sofa----king]

Andy - thanks for the response - I for one would like an even clearer reply. From the money collected on the night what has been already donated and to where? What is remaining and what are the charity's intentions with this?

I understand what you are saying about ensuring that money donated to the hospital goes to the right place - how much is this please?

My intention with these questions is not to accuse, merely to clear up outstanding questions and remove any doubt about the charity from any blonde members minds. I think that answers to these questions would probably achieve that and help future relationships with the charity. Look forward to your reply,
Tracey.

lol why would this take so long to find out? cant you look at your accounts?

Yes Tracey I know....but that will take longer.   Bare with me.

[Trace]

Andy - thanks for the response - I for one would like an even clearer reply. From the money collected on the night what has been already donated and to where? What is remaining and what are the charity's intentions with this?

I understand what you are saying about ensuring that money donated to the hospital goes to the right place - how much is this please?

My intention with these questions is not to accuse, merely to clear up outstanding questions and remove any doubt about the charity from any blonde members minds. I think that answers to these questions would probably achieve that and help future relationships with the charity. Look forward to your reply,
Tracey.

lol why would this take so long to find out? cant you look at your accounts?

Yes Tracey I know....but that will take longer.   Bare with me.

James

Andy is answering posts and questions as fast as he possibly can. 

Can we PLEASE have some patience on this thread?

[Dingdell]

Andy - thanks for the response - I for one would like an even clearer reply. From the money collected on the night what has been already donated and to where? What is remaining and what are the charity's intentions with this?

I understand what you are saying about ensuring that money donated to the hospital goes to the right place - how much is this please?

My intention with these questions is not to accuse, merely to clear up outstanding questions and remove any doubt about the charity from any blonde members minds. I think that answers to these questions would probably achieve that and help future relationships with the charity. Look forward to your reply,
Tracey.

lol why would this take so long to find out? cant you look at your accounts?

Yes Tracey I know....but that will take longer.   Bare with me.

Actually this isn't alway quickly and easily accessible - but given the concern I woudl be disappointed if we didn't hear this sort of information by tomorrow.

[TheJagster]

No I cant James.

Individual items are not listed in accounts.

In addition can I confirm that I am atrustee doing this on a voluntary basis. I run a business (or try to). While I was writing the above post 5 clients called me. As I am meant to be working I will have to deal with them!

[TheJagster]

I am trying to help....it is still less than 24 hours since I knew of a problem. If anyone is dissapointed then that is unfortuanate....but I will do what I can!

[sofa----king]

andy i appreciate you have a business to run,cant you ask "the truth"  davey  to come on here to answer these things questions which really are being directed at his charity? because if it were my charity, i would be first to answer any questions asked by anyone.is this not unreasonable???