88% Concentration blogger aka Bluescouse finally busto.

[tikay]

rayvon started with 5k and won over a million and grundy has a high 6figure/almost 7 figure dollar roll as well so yeh I would say they are both fantastic players- they can still lose 50-100k in a day when things go wrong for them. On another thread we have read about ram smashing 600k in v srugby heads up- does this make him any less classy a guy? Good luck to bluescouse, I for one hope he continues to run it up and I don't "hope" he will be broke in a month for my entertainment. Riverdave on here used to be the king of the spinups- ask him how it feels to run almost nothing to 6 figures then back down again- "I told you so" from others makes the others look like classless, jelous idiots in my eyes.

I was saying class about paul as in class of player- as a person paul is very classy I agree.

I don't know why you keep making the "class" equation with regard to this, but FWIW, that's not the point that was being made, I simply responded to your point. As to the Kid, I have never said I revelled in his downswings, I said it was sad. And it is, to me, because it's not sustainable.

As we seem to be seeing misintepretations here I will clarify this. I have no view, negative or positive, on Ben's "class", I don't know him that well.

I made the point that in my eyes, a "winner" was someone who won enough, & managed his bankroll in a style, which ensured he could stay in the game permanently, never be under money pressure, & thus enjoy the game.

If by some miracle Nature were to spare me another decade, I can easly imagine trundling down to Brighton & seeing Paul Parker still at the tables, glass of red wine clutched to chest, smiling, & bringing fun to all those lucky enough to be at his table. It just depends on how you define "winner". I don't get starry-eyed hero-worship at the big bangers, I incline more to those who genuinely enjoy what they do, & manage themselves such that they can stay in the game permanently.

RiverDave? He continues to seesaw, run nothing up to a lot & back down again, I say good luck to him, I have no problems with him, or that.

[ariston]

It wasn't an attack on you personally Tikay but read through all the Bluescouse threads. I don't know him and neither do most who post on these threads but a lot of posters seem to have nothing to say but " he will be broke in a month or two" etc etc etc. Its like they get pleasure out of watching someone fail. I say better to have tried etc (you all know the quote). Many of the household names (people you see on TV every week) are boom and bust style players so who are we to all criticise him for playing in such a haphazzard way.

I have been through this myself although on a smaller scale when I was winning sat seats for fun and playing all over the world. Many players took great delight in me "failing" in these events and many threads were posted on the betfair forum to this extent. Many of the quotes were from people who had never played in games bigger than 1/2- the fact I tried and didn't manage to pull off a big win is irrelevant, I got to play all over the world with the biggest names in poker. I learnt a lot and now survive in the smaller tourneys and games where the money is easy and the pressure isn't as big. Let Bluescouse learn his own way as well. The guy actually reminds me of roland a few years ago. Many of you hadn't heard about roland before his WPT win in france but he was a betfair player and regularly sat with myself on the 2/5 5/10 games. He was a crazy LAG with ridiculous swings and now his game has evolved to the fantastic one that it now is, who's to say Bluescouse wont do the same?

[Tractor]

Im with Ariston on this one, good luck to the fella.

[RED-DOG]

Ariston talks like a blunderbuss shoots, what he lacks in accuracy he makes up for in quantity. 

[ariston]

Ariston talks like a blunderbuss shoots, what he lacks in accuracy he makes up for in quantity. 

ty tom.... i think lol

[Sark79]

. He was a crazy LAG with ridiculous swings and now his game has evolved to the fantastic one that it now is, who's to say Bluescouse wont do the same?

This was the point I was trying to make , but you are smarter and did it in a clearer way , lol

[Ironside]

am important skill in a poker players armoury is s bankroll management untill he learns this skill he will only ever be a person either at the top end or bottom end of a swing in his luck

[ariston]

am important skill in a poker players armoury is s bankroll management untill he learns this skill he will only ever be a person either at the top end or bottom end of a swing in his luck

ala ram or gus..........do we all secretly hope they will go busto?

[Ironside]

am important skill in a poker players armoury is s bankroll management untill he learns this skill he will only ever be a person either at the top end or bottom end of a swing in his luck

ala ram or gus..........do we all secretly hope they will go busto?

i never wish busto on anyone

the fact i think a person will go bust is neither here nor there

[Royal Flush]

The distinction to make here is between that of a class card player and that of a professional poker player, bluescouse by the sounds of it is one and not the other.

As someone who has only ever lived off poker winnings, everything i own has come through poker and i protect my bankroll more than anything else, there are many players who are much better at playing cards than me who have no hope in hell of being professional poker players.

[Sark79]

The latest WPT mag deals with bankroll management

[gasman]

good luck to scouse, I think he may be able to hold on to his roll his time, well hopefully

will be a good read anyhow

[byronkincaid]

The guy actually reminds me of roland a few years ago. Many of you hadn't heard about roland before his WPT win in france but he was a betfair player and regularly sat with myself on the 2/5 5/10 games. He was a crazy LAG with ridiculous swings and now his game has evolved to the fantastic one that it now is, who's to say Bluescouse wont do the same?

A LAG playing within his roll and a TAG shortstacking massively out of his are comparable how? Or are you saying Roland was playing 5/10 with $3000 or so?

[barhell]

Ariston talks like a blunderbuss shoots, what he lacks in accuracy he makes up for in quantity. 

ty tom.... i think lol

These two posts made me laugh so much. Thankyou to both Red and Ariston. Two gents with class on this forum.

[marcro]

rayvon started with 5k and won over a million and grundy has a high 6figure/almost 7 figure dollar roll as well so yeh I would say they are both fantastic players- they can still lose 50-100k in a day when things go wrong for them. On another thread we have read about ram smashing 600k in v srugby heads up- does this make him any less classy a guy? Good luck to bluescouse, I for one hope he continues to run it up and I don't "hope" he will be broke in a month for my entertainment. Riverdave on here used to be the king of the spinups- ask him how it feels to run almost nothing to 6 figures then back down again- "I told you so" from others makes the others look like classless, jelous idiots in my eyes.

I was saying class about paul as in class of player- as a person paul is very classy I agree.

I am in your camp on this - good luck to Bluescouse.  This generation of "Poker Punks" did not make their bankrolls via traditional bankroll management.  I am not the type to take this reckless approach but I will be rooting for him.