rayvon started with 5k and won over a million and grundy has a high 6figure/almost 7 figure dollar roll as well so yeh I would say they are both fantastic players- they can still lose 50-100k in a day when things go wrong for them. On another thread we have read about ram smashing 600k in v srugby heads up- does this make him any less classy a guy? Good luck to bluescouse, I for one hope he continues to run it up and I don't "hope" he will be broke in a month for my entertainment. Riverdave on here used to be the king of the spinups- ask him how it feels to run almost nothing to 6 figures then back down again- "I told you so" from others makes the others look like classless, jelous idiots in my eyes.
I was saying class about paul as in class of player- as a person paul is very classy I agree.
I don't know why you keep making the "class" equation with regard to this, but FWIW, that's not the point that was being made, I simply responded to your point. As to the Kid, I have never said I revelled in his downswings, I said it was sad. And it is, to me, because it's not sustainable.
As we seem to be seeing misintepretations here I will clarify this. I have no view, negative or positive, on Ben's "class", I don't know him that well.
I made the point that in my eyes, a "winner" was someone who won enough, & managed his bankroll in a style, which ensured he could stay in the game permanently, never be under money pressure, & thus enjoy the game.
If by some miracle Nature were to spare me another decade, I can easly imagine trundling down to Brighton & seeing Paul Parker still at the tables, glass of red wine clutched to chest, smiling, & bringing fun to all those lucky enough to be at his table. It just depends on how you define "winner". I don't get starry-eyed hero-worship at the big bangers, I incline more to those who genuinely enjoy what they do, & manage themselves such that they can stay in the game permanently.
RiverDave? He continues to seesaw, run nothing up to a lot & back down again, I say good luck to him, I have no problems with him, or that.