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« Reply #255 on: February 02, 2008, 12:48:39 AM »

He'll lose everything sooner or later, best buy himself a cardboard box
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« Reply #256 on: February 02, 2008, 12:55:06 AM »

the balls and the gumption for having a dream and chasing it to the very end, too many peoples lives end with too many what-ifs, at least he has his dream, and he is chasing it.

I'm not sure he has a dream or a goal other than to continue gambling at a level that gives him a rush. 
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« Reply #257 on: February 02, 2008, 07:06:44 AM »

Indeed, the textbook tells us gambling problems are synonymous with denial.

You come across many honest accounts of what people go through with their gambling issues, but they are almost always written retrospectively. It is very rare to see a blog like the one Ed Hollis writes, I can think of no other examples over a sustained period of time.

He sees what is happening, yet is still not only happen to proceed, but also to write about it.

An enigma, perhaps masochistic?

thats the fascinating thing for me, its like he has an unwavering belief that it will all come good, he will sell his equity in the house, get his £70k or so, pay back the £15k loan, and ride the £55k into the depths of millionaire-hood... and its this belief that I am pretty sure all the other high stakes players have, and that most mortals dont have. Even if he fails, I will always admire him for having the balls and the gumption for having a dream and chasing it to the very end, too many peoples lives end with too many what-ifs, at least he has his dream, and he is chasing it.

Don't you think that this is ascribing lofty intentions to him that simply aren't there?

While I think it's wrong to simply say someone is a bad player purely because they lack self discipline (eg Ungar Cloutier etc), I can't see past a guy who just seems to say "how much money can I get hold of and what's the highest limit I can play at." There seems to be a massive self destructive streak in his play at times, that is at the heart of the thinking of most degenerative gamblers. If he got to his "ultimate goal" of being a millionaire, I could imagine him on the phone to Andy Beal wanting to play HU4ROLLZ the next day. This makes for a really bad role model for any young poker players in my eyes.

I don't want to see him do badly, he comes across as a nice guy, and his warts and all blog is compulsive for sure, but I hope someone close to him with some influence over his decisions persuades him to move far away from poker for a while and channel his talents into something that will fulfil him without laying everything he owns on the line.

I know this isn't true of you but most of the people saying "don't listen to the doubters, go for it!" aren't saying so because they genuinely care for him, but because they get a vicarious thrill out of his rollercoaster blog and because they want to give some sort of validation to their own degenerative gambling side.

All IMO naturally.

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« Reply #258 on: February 02, 2008, 07:18:17 AM »

Indeed, the textbook tells us gambling problems are synonymous with denial.

You come across many honest accounts of what people go through with their gambling issues, but they are almost always written retrospectively. It is very rare to see a blog like the one Ed Hollis writes, I can think of no other examples over a sustained period of time.

He sees what is happening, yet is still not only happen to proceed, but also to write about it.

An enigma, perhaps masochistic?

thats the fascinating thing for me, its like he has an unwavering belief that it will all come good, he will sell his equity in the house, get his £70k or so, pay back the £15k loan, and ride the £55k into the depths of millionaire-hood... and its this belief that I am pretty sure all the other high stakes players have, and that most mortals dont have. Even if he fails, I will always admire him for having the balls and the gumption for having a dream and chasing it to the very end, too many peoples lives end with too many what-ifs, at least he has his dream, and he is chasing it.

Don't you think that this is ascribing lofty intentions to him that simply aren't there?

While I think it's wrong to simply say someone is a bad player purely because they lack self discipline (eg Ungar Cloutier etc), I can't see past a guy who just seems to say "how much money can I get hold of and what's the highest limit I can play at." There seems to be a massive self destructive streak in his play at times, that is at the heart of the thinking of most degenerative gamblers. If he got to his "ultimate goal" of being a millionaire, I could imagine him on the phone to Andy Beal wanting to play HU4ROLLZ the next day. This makes for a really bad role model for any young poker players in my eyes.

I don't want to see him do badly, he comes across as a nice guy, and his warts and all blog is compulsive for sure, but I hope someone close to him with some influence over his decisions persuades him to move far away from poker for a while and channel his talents into something that will fulfil him without laying everything he owns on the line.

I know this isn't true of you but most of the people saying "don't listen to the doubters, go for it!" aren't saying so because they genuinely care for him, but because they get a vicarious thrill out of his rollercoaster blog and because they want to give some sort of validation to their own degenerative gambling side.

All IMO naturally.




 
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« Reply #259 on: February 02, 2008, 10:38:12 AM »

He isn't listening to any of sound advice offered to him.......the guy need's professional help NOW!
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« Reply #260 on: February 02, 2008, 10:46:53 AM »

I hope he goes completely busto and loses everything, including friends, credit rating etc etc. He's a lost cause and another that is destined to learn the 'hard way'.
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« Reply #261 on: February 02, 2008, 10:53:13 AM »

I hope he goes completely busto and loses everything, including friends, credit rating etc etc. He's a lost cause and another that is destined to learn the 'hard way'.

He did that last year.
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« Reply #262 on: February 02, 2008, 11:16:44 AM »

No I mean completely where he loses all respect from friends, can't get credit, and ends up at the bottom of the barrel, so to speak. The sooner this guy crashes and burns the better his chance of recovery/change.
The way he's going he will lead a very short life.
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« Reply #263 on: February 02, 2008, 12:19:36 PM »

Going totally bust will be the making of him, he will accept a backer and that backer will reign him in.
I think the guy is destined for superstardom pokerwise and fair play to him.
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« Reply #264 on: February 02, 2008, 12:34:21 PM »

Going totally bust will be the making of him, he will accept a backer and that backer will reign him in.
I think the guy is destined for superstardom pokerwise and fair play to him.

Lol whoever backs him is madder than Ed. Backer gives him $2000 to play .5/1, Ed is last seen shortstacking 25/50.
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« Reply #265 on: February 02, 2008, 03:18:07 PM »

Going totally bust will be the making of him, he will accept a backer and that backer will reign him in.
I think the guy is destined for superstardom pokerwise and fair play to him.
I think if someone could back him into big tournies he has a great chance, his play is more suited to tournies..
I hope he gets back on track and at the end of the day hes very young, won the house from poker winnings so if he sell it and blows the money he will only be back at square one where the rest of his mates are at the moment.
i wish him all the luck in the world, he will need it.
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« Reply #266 on: February 02, 2008, 04:47:50 PM »

The guy is brainless, I have no respect whatsoever for him.  Someone described his as a degenerate gambler on here, very true.  Wish him no luck at all, he just doesn't deserve it.
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« Reply #267 on: February 02, 2008, 07:01:35 PM »

I bet the bastards only still gambling to mess with my thread title!

 
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« Reply #268 on: February 02, 2008, 08:10:36 PM »

Going totally bust will be the making of him, he will accept a backer and that backer will reign him in.
I think the guy is destined for superstardom pokerwise and fair play to him.
I think if someone could back him into big tournies he has a great chance, his play is more suited to tournies..
I hope he gets back on track and at the end of the day hes very young, won the house from poker winnings so if he sell it and blows the money he will only be back at square one where the rest of his mates are at the moment.
i wish him all the luck in the world, he will need it.

Sorry Sir, I have to take issue with this statement. Having played the highest stakes and lost hundreds of thousands in a day how is he ever going to work a normal job, let alone take a job as a trainee or office junior. He has set his life on a certain path now that he will be unlikely to ever leave; now it’s just a matter of whether he learns to control his impulses and is fortunate enough and good enough to be a successful gambler or a life time loser. 
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« Reply #269 on: February 03, 2008, 02:26:49 PM »

Ifm hit nail on head. This guy will be massive in a few years. Just needs to go to the bottom of the barrel before he can rethink/reshape his attitude to poker stakes. Fwiw he is a shit role-model to emerging players with his rollercoaster blog but hey, at least he plays true poker which will stand him in good stead in the long run. GL ed.
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