Ladjokes

[tikay]

Maybe you are just not a very good player?

In a good mood today?

No it's just my standard response to players who think online poker is bent. Usually because they are capable of beating the local £10 rebuy they think they are good, when infact online they are playing better players.

 did you see his call ? i wouldnt say that was the sign of a better player

Maybe you are just not a very good player?

 maybe , one of the reasons we use this site , so we can all try to be as good as you

 

BigTomotoes, did you see the 9/11 conspiracies program on BBC2 last night?

 no , was it any good ? changed your mind yet ?

This is the WHOLE issue, encapsulated here....

did you see his call ? i wouldnt say that was the sign of a better player

Do you want bad calls, or not? Of COURSE you do. But you can't have it both ways! If you bet the flop strong - it was a dream flop for you - he goes away. But you don't get paid much. You play it slow, legitimately, to rack up the reward, & end up racking up the risk too. That's how poker works.

I'm still trying to figure how anyone on God's earth could think this is Ladbrokes fault.

Who'd run a poker room, eh?

[Highstack]

@ Kinboshi - you deserved to win with the 84 mate for getting em in first. Calling with AQ and others in the pot is not great, the overcall is laughable. Well done mate (and UL with the QQ )


BT; You will see far more outdraws on line than live for some very basic reasons, none of which relate to the 'rig':

i) you play more hands, tables and tournaments
ii) players who play live are there purely to play the game and for teh social aspect, on line they are often not concentrating, usually chatting, surfing the web, multi-tabling, watching tv, p*ssed etc
iii) more opponents will chase the river and therefore increase the chances of that outdraw (anonymity has something to do with this - be embarrassed to call it live). Therefore, the gutshot chasers may put it down more often live, for fear of being ridiculed by their peers.

All you can do is get your money/chips in when you have the best of it and hope it holds. If his hand was face up, ask yourself if you wanted him to call? If the answer is yes, then take it on the chin and move on. Bad runs are horrible, take a break if it is messing with you, because it is simply impossible to play good poker and make good decisions when you are in the mode of believing the world is against you - any edge you may have is gone.

Look at your poker tracker statistics and compare them with the 'expected results'. That should tell you if the software is miles out for you. I sincerely doubt it, but if you are concerned at least back it up with facts and not one hand!

***If you think you're running badly, then check this out and put things into perspective!

**link removed - sorry**

[Highstack]

'encapsculated'

I like that! My mission today will be to incorporate that within an email today. Every day on Blonde is a learning day

[Highstack]

Sorry - link removed. I didn't realise as it was from a rival site.

Anyhow, the basics of the hand were that player A lost a $100k pot with on a board against

The turn was and the river   99.8% on the flop

[tikay]

'encapsculated'

I like that! My mission today will be to incorporate that within an email today. Every day on Blonde is a learning day

Well remove the spelling error I made - I have!

[Highstack]

Disappointingly I thought it was a new word. I looked it up on Wikipedia and it did indeed offer me your corrected version. A shame, I like new words.

[Nem]

Table Vasari (heads up) - $200/$400 - No Limit Hold'em - 14:21:11 ET - 2007/02/19
Seat 1: Son-in-Law ($67,608.75)
Seat 2: durrrr ($77,241.75)
durrrr posts the small blind of $200
Son-in-Law posts the big blind of $400
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
durrrr raises to $1,200
Son-in-Law raises to $3,600
durrrr calls $2,400
*** FLOP *** [ ]
Son-in-Law bets $5,000
durrrr raises to $15,700
Son-in-Law calls $10,700
*** TURN *** [ ] []
Son-in-Law checks
durrrr has 15 seconds left to act
durrrr bets $57,941.75, and is all in
Son-in-Law calls $48,308.75, and is all in
durrrr shows [ ]
Son-in-Law shows [ ]
Uncalled bet of $9,633 returned to durrrr
*** RIVER *** [ ] []
durrrr shows a straight flush, Eight high
Son-in-Law shows four of a kind, Tens
durrrr wins the pot ($135,217) with a straight flush, Eight high
Son-in-Law is sitting out
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $135,217.50 | Rake $0.50
Board: [ ]
Seat 1: Son-in-Law (big blind) showed [ ] and lost with four of a kind, Tens
Seat 2: durrrr (small blind) showed [ ] and won ($135,217) with a straight flush, Eight high

[thetank]

TTTT could have re-raised the flop

He took on a bit of risk, to make more, and paid the short term price.

[Highstack]

Why would he do that? He is 99.8% on the flop. He played it perfectly to get all the other guys chips in as a favourite. He was outdrawn and that is an expense. Reraising the flop there would be awful.

[thetank]

I know, was toungue in cheek. (or attempting to be)

[Highstack]

Ah ok sorry. Nice piece of angling sir, please throw me back in the pond when you have finished with me

[matt674]

very surprised he lead out with a continuation bet on the flop after hitting quads - without knowing how durrr plays more often than not your opponent will have missed that flop as you caught all of it and will pass to any bet.

he got lucky that durrr decides his backdoor straight flush draw was worth a shot at, but then unlucky that he hit!!

[Highstack]

I would guess that with the small pool of players who would play $200/$400 NL, they probably know eachothers games fairly well and that would be the reason for leading out. He can hardly check raise as his hand might aswell be face up and he is attempting to bloat the pot as you would expect flopping quads is a sure thing to take it down.

[Highstack]

That last post was just meant to imply that it is more disguised that way. He is risking losing the oppo totally, but by checking the pot probably stays small regardless and he wants value for it.

[Royal Flush]

very surprised he lead out with a continuation bet on the flop after hitting quads - without knowing how durrr plays more often than not your opponent will have missed that flop as you caught all of it and will pass to any bet.

he got lucky that durrr decides his backdoor straight flush draw was worth a shot at, but then unlucky that he hit!!

leading out is 100% the right play, you have re-raised pre flop there is no hand you should then check, you bet every flop after re-raising pre and then it allows your oppo to make a move on you.