Ladjokes

[BigTomatoes]

 This is a bad beat and i dont apologise for it , quite frankly im getting sick of it.

** Game ID 690510612 starting - 2007-02-18 11:06:50
** Nou Camp [Hold 'em] (20.00|40.00 No Limit - STT) Real Money

- laxen71 sitting in seat 1 with $1460.00
- Jack2310 sitting in seat 2 with $1500.00
- jimmymk sitting in seat 3 with $1580.00 [Dealer]
- jacko-10 sitting in seat 4 with $1470.00
- Arnot3 sitting in seat 5 with $1460.00

jacko-10 posted the small blind - $10.00
Arnot3 posted the big blind - $20.00

** Dealing card to Jack2310: 
laxen71 called - $20.00
Jack2310 raised - $80.00
jimmymk called - $80.00
jacko-10 called - $80.00
Arnot3 folded
laxen71 called - $80.00

** Dealing the flop: 
jacko-10 checked
laxen71 bet - $170.00
Jack2310 called - $170.00
jimmymk folded
jacko-10 folded

** Dealing the turn: 

laxen71 bet - $340.00
Jack2310 went all-in - $1250.00
laxen71 went all-in - $870.00
laxen71 shows: 

** Dealing the river: 

laxen71 wins $3100.00 from the main pot

End of game 690510612

 wtf ?

 really pathetic

 

[cambo]

i hate getting all the money in the middle before the flop on prima i swear you have to win the pot before the river.

[tikay]

Hard to bear sometimes, but you need to, it'll always happen, for & against. But why is this Ladbrokes fault? ("Ladjokes")

[booder]

why are you not raising on the flop ?

[Rookie (Rodney)]

why are you not raising on the flop ?

Because he wants to be outdrawn. Obv.

[BigTomatoes]

 happenning more and more on Ladbrokes , most players who play there regularly will agree .

 i was fairly confident i was ahead , there is more than one way to play a hand after the flop and on this occasion i knew he was weak.

 i guess im banking on him not calling all his chips with a gutshot draw and 1 card to come.
 

[RED-DOG]

So let me get this straight, you think Ladbrokes is bias/fixed so that the worst hand wins too often?

[BigTomatoes]

 no im saying , ive seen more suckouts  / 1 outers / river gutshots and other calamities since the software changed

 things you wouldnt see playing live every night for 10 years

 and i dont care what anyone says , at the end of the day , it is a computer , no one can convince me that it is fixed , but no-one can say that it is %100 not fixed

[tikay]

 happenning more and more on Ladbrokes , most players who play there regularly will agree .

 i was fairly confident i was ahead , there is more than one way to play a hand after the flop and on this occasion i knew he was weak.

 i guess im banking on him not calling all his chips with a gutshot draw and 1 card to come.
 

happenning more and more on Ladbrokes , most players who play there regularly will agree

You are not seriously saying that Ladbrokes fix it so you,  & others, lose, are you? And their motive?......

[tikay]

no im saying , ive seen more suckouts  / 1 outers / river gutshots and other calamities since the software changed

 things you wouldnt see playing live every night for 10 years

They fixed the software so that the worst hand wins? Why would they do that?

And it does not happen Live? Try reading the Walsall Live Update!

[BigTomatoes]

 see my reply ^ before you dive in Tony

[tikay]

 see my reply ^ before you dive in Tony

I'm not diving in mate, I just found it extraordinary that you could think the way you are - it will harm your game if you really think that way.

I have no flag to fly for Ladbrokes, but I see the "joke" comment time & time again when someone gets sucked out, on all & every site & network, & if I lived to be 100, I'll never understand what the point of saying "ladbrokes/tribreca/Stars are a joke" is. Poker generates suckouts, it's in the very nature of the game! Why blame the Site for the way the Poker Gods spin their magic?

[BigTomatoes]

 im not blaming the sites for the nature of the game , im saying you see far more dodgy suckouts , runner runner , gutshots , 1 outers etc etc than you see in live action.

 ive played poker for 3 years live and could count on 2 hands the number of really unbelievable beats etc ive seen.

 but ive probably seen more in one night on internet poker than i ave seen live total.

 and its not just Ladbrokes ( although that is my main site of play ) but ive experienced it on all the others as well.

 im more confident playing live , when your fate is in the hands of a computer it is a different story.

[Longy]

One of the reason for the suckouts on Ladbrokes is that the standard of players is poorer than elsewhere on the internet, in my experience. All this talk of new software and more suckout is coincedence at best.

As Tikay says why would a company who has its main customer base in its betting site, be risking any doubt about the integrity of their poker site. Just accept that you are running bad and be happy you are still getting your money in ahead.

[Indestructable]

Just won a stt on Laddies, so there may be something with regards to the standard of players.
 

Just out of interest I think his chances of winning on the river were not much difference to say a preflop all in move of
 
versus
 
Just mention this to put it in to context and that out of every 100 times this move is made he would win 18 times as he still had seven outs.
Sure this info will probably not make you feel any better. Sorry