MikkyT - We get the truth from the BBC

[kinboshi]

All i can say from a poker players view which means life revolves around money is donate donate donate! There are plenty of charities we could all donate too! Maybe NSPCC?? im sure it would be possible to pool money together on here somehow!

Lets not forget this kid was brave enough to come forward but 1000's of kids cant coz of the horrible abuse, we can play our part in stopping it aswell!

Yes mate that might be an idea. I applaud the work the NSPCC or the SSPCC do but I always find it difficult to justify giving to these types of charities when the running and administration costs take  90%+ of the money donated, I will give it some thought though.

I have a friend who works for NCH, which is a children's charity which is actually as big as the NSPCC. I bet very few of you will have heard of it. This is because they have always strived to spend as much of the money they raise as possible in the homes and projects that they run. There is quite a bit of resentment against the NSPCC, who spend a huge amount of money every year on emotional blackmail TV adverts and advertising campaigns in order to raise their profile, and yet manage to actually get less money to children who need it.

I don't think the admin costs are near 90%, but I'm always wary of charities which run TV campaigns (animal charities are hugely guilty of this, and they have more money than they know what to do with).

I've done some work in the past for the NCH - and yes, they do good work and don't have massive marketing budgets.
(http://www.nch.org.uk/)

There's also Barnardo's, and the one that I would say could be the most appropriate - Childline (http://www.childline.org.uk)

[KingPoker]

Is everyone going to chip in or what?

[tikay]

I woud NEVER Donate to NSPCC, these "corporate-style" Charities hack me off with their huge admin costs. But when you go to the smaller charirties, you do have to be very careful, some of them are not what they seem.

[kinboshi]

Childline's money - where it comes from, where it goes:

http://www.childline.org.uk/Whereyourmoneygoes.asp

[tikay]

Is everyone going to chip in or what?

Me? Yes, but not yet. Let the dust settle first.

[Pokerron]

I am amazed that after reading the reports of the case (judges comments in particular) that certain people are trying to quibble over the number of pictures he had, or wondering if he hit kids with wire as banter.  FFS!!!  I'd expect these weak excuses and pointless questions if he had just been copnvicted of affray, or theft...but he admitted to being a violient ****ing paedophile in court! 

I'm not going to post on this thread or read it anymore, because its starting to disgust me, over and above the acts commited by this predatory paedophile.   

[Geo the Sarge]

Just read this whole thread with a tear in my eye. My son Jakob is 8 and is my entire reason for being and if anyone was to ever hurt him the only trial would be mine.

 Whatever Mikky has done he will not have a "soft" term and will not be up for parole after the 2-3 years as everyone expects, quite a high % of these scumbags don't ever make it out of jail after taking the easy option and doing themselves in (one can only pray he does to save any other children's lives from being ruined on his release). Whenever he gets near any of the general population he will be spat on, slapped,knifed (if they get chance) as nonces are the lowest denominator and a kind of unwritten rule between the other prisoners to make his life as miserable as possible whenever they get chance.

Poppet you have been daft in covering for a mate but I am 100% sure you didn't know about what he had been up to.

Suzanne - your comments disgust me and I like IFM always say it as I see it. My ex wife has had various "friends" since our divorce and if any of them "slapped" Jakob on his legs with wire, held his head under water or stood on his head then they would get exactly the same back from me and I'm the best part of 19 stone and 6ft 4 so you wouldn't want me standing on your head. I also would be likely to keep holding their head under the water. Playfull/ boisterous fighting? WTF? Are you really saying that that is acceptable? If you are I really hope you don't have or ever have kids yourself. 6 years IMO is about the tenth anyone harming/sexually abusing kids deserves- they should never see the light of day again and should never be allowed the chance to get near another child.

I am sorry for spoiling a "nice debate" Tikay but I am disgusted anybody could even think, "whats he got 6 years for". Remember people like Huntley and many others like him started with small inappropriate things that some would consider acceptable but most sane people would see as a warning. Those poor kids Mikyt has abused will never have a normal childhood and will live the rest of their lives with the mental scars, some of the kids abused by him may even turn into the abusers themselves in years to come as it has been proved a very high percentage of abusers were abused themselves as youngsters.

 The thread were Mikky asked for pictures of your kids should be kept and should referred to the child protection agencies as it may be used to increase his sentence if he was seen to be actively seeking children's images online (this was one of the offences Squiddy on the betfair forum was charged with).

Great post Ariston.

Being a father of 3 grown lads and now grandfather to 2 beauties, I have read this thread with a very heavy heart. I do not intend to use the thread to have a rant as I believe that I could not compare to some of the brilliant posts that have already appeared here. I only want to say 2 things.

1. Well done to all for their support towards Poppett and may I add mine.

2. A point which I believe should be made is regarding whether we should be removing this post soonest. IMO we have made some very valid points and raised a considerable debate on some of them. My reasons for asking that the post is be removed is quite simple. In this day and age, unfortunately even the most heinous of convicted criminals can access computers when in prison.

My worry to that end is that this thread will grow to become one of the largest on the forum. We all praise people (quite rightly) who start threads which spark such a debate or generate so much interest that they are measured by the length of the thread and considered a classic. I applaud Newmanseye for creating this one and this is no way aimed at them personally. I would just hate the thought that the subject of this thread could access this and take gratification from this as is so often the case with these sickos.

Apologies if anyone thinks I am being unrealistic.

Chin up Poppett.

Geo.

[dealerFROMhell]

I have no idea why people are rabbitting on about this still.

The guy took you all for mugs in the first place, and now you're all having a pop at each other because of him, even though the sick fucks been sent down for 6 years.

It beggars belief.

[booder]

The guy took you all for mugs in the first place,

quite the wordsmith , aren't you

[dealerFROMhell]

He did though. Not that it's anyones fault, because you obviously couldn't see it coming.

[tikay]

The guy took you all for mugs in the first place

So what do you suggest, we spurn the friendship of every blonde just in case they are a paedo?

and now you're all having a pop at each other because of him

This is a Forum, the whole idea is that we debate things.

In point of fact, if we try & take out he emotive side, & it's a stunningly fascinating thread, demonstrating the huge diversity of opinions on what most would consider an open & shut case. As in poker as in life, as in blonde, as in life.

[Jon MW]

All i can say from a poker players view which means life revolves around money is donate donate donate! There are plenty of charities we could all donate too! Maybe NSPCC?? im sure it would be possible to pool money together on here somehow!

Lets not forget this kid was brave enough to come forward but 1000's of kids cant coz of the horrible abuse, we can play our part in stopping it aswell!

Yes mate that might be an idea. I applaud the work the NSPCC or the SSPCC do but I always find it difficult to justify giving to these types of charities when the running and administration costs take  90%+ of the money donated, I will give it some thought though.

I have a friend who works for NCH, which is a children's charity which is actually as big as the NSPCC. I bet very few of you will have heard of it. This is because they have always strived to spend as much of the money they raise as possible in the homes and projects that they run. There is quite a bit of resentment against the NSPCC, who spend a huge amount of money every year on emotional blackmail TV adverts and advertising campaigns in order to raise their profile, and yet manage to actually get less money to children who need it.

I don't think the admin costs are near 90%, but I'm always wary of charities which run TV campaigns (animal charities are hugely guilty of this, and they have more money than they know what to do with).

Yeh jonMW said that the actual admin cost is 58% for the NSPCC and around only 20% gets to those who need it!!! Absoultely ridiculous isnt it!

Clarification

The admin cost for the NSPCC was 58% last year - they spent 42% on those who need it.
Some other charities spend as little as 20% on admin.

But the NSPCC suggest that they play a bigger role in raising public awareness than those charities do.

[I KNOW IT]

Oi! I've got an English degree i'll have you know.

He did though. Not that it's anyones fault, because you obviously couldn't see it coming.

Just because the bastard was welcomed onto this forum with open arms, like every other member may I add,no way whatsoever does that make people on here mugs.

[KingPoker]

All i can say from a poker players view which means life revolves around money is donate donate donate! There are plenty of charities we could all donate too! Maybe NSPCC?? im sure it would be possible to pool money together on here somehow!

Lets not forget this kid was brave enough to come forward but 1000's of kids cant coz of the horrible abuse, we can play our part in stopping it aswell!

Yes mate that might be an idea. I applaud the work the NSPCC or the SSPCC do but I always find it difficult to justify giving to these types of charities when the running and administration costs take  90%+ of the money donated, I will give it some thought though.

I have a friend who works for NCH, which is a children's charity which is actually as big as the NSPCC. I bet very few of you will have heard of it. This is because they have always strived to spend as much of the money they raise as possible in the homes and projects that they run. There is quite a bit of resentment against the NSPCC, who spend a huge amount of money every year on emotional blackmail TV adverts and advertising campaigns in order to raise their profile, and yet manage to actually get less money to children who need it.

I don't think the admin costs are near 90%, but I'm always wary of charities which run TV campaigns (animal charities are hugely guilty of this, and they have more money than they know what to do with).

Yeh jonMW said that the actual admin cost is 58% for the NSPCC and around only 20% gets to those who need it!!! Absoultely ridiculous isnt it!

Clarification

The admin cost for the NSPCC was 58% last year - they spent 42% on those who need it.
Some other charities spend as little as 20% on admin.

But the NSPCC suggest that they play a bigger role in raising public awareness than those charities do.

 

[iceman]

it occurs to me that instead of donatating to known kids charities, blonde members who are inclined to give money take up a collection to be given directly to the family that they might use it for a summer holiday etc...