MikkyT - We get the truth from the BBC

[taximan007]

As i said in a previous post, these people are in general very "clever" come across as real "Mr/Mrs NICE," people here at blonde who had any contact with this guy are certainly NOT MUGS, they just took the guy (as we do with most people) at face value.

They come from all walks of life, and they are very clever at being cunning and manipulative, this is their way (in most cases) of gaining the childrens (and sometimes parents) trust in the first place.

I donate on an annual basis to Barnardos as they are very close to my heart from my childhood.(public werent as aware of things in the sixties)

Just my thoughts

[BigTomatoes]

 i take it this beast is history on here??

 stop having a go at poppet ffs , she is guilty of nothing

 i KNOW your telling the truth poppet dont listen to any of them

[suzanne]

First of all I would like to say to smithy,I KNOW IT and Ariston if i made a comment that upset you im sorry but I only commented on the facts as I see them.

I did not realize that he had admitted to sexual assualt as the links first posts (that I saw) didnt suggest it.

My comment on the 13 pic was based on the fact that my 9 yr old daughter is a HUGE Britney Spears fan and she was upset when she fould out she had shaved her hair and when she did google search a VERY nasty pic came up which I assume was deleted from google fairly quickly but nevertheless she saw it. I would assume a perv would have a lot more than 13 images.

Im cant figure out how to scroll back to add quotes so bear with me.

[suzanne]

[quote author=ariston link=topic=21762.msg442289#msg442289 date=1174735

Suzanne - your comments disgust me and I like IFM always say it as I see it. My ex wife has had various "friends" since our divorce and if any of them "slapped" Jakob on his legs with wire, held his head under water or stood on his head then they would get exactly the same back from me and I'm the best part of 19 stone and 6ft 4 so you wouldn't want me standing on your head. I also would be likely to keep holding their head under the water. Playfull/ boisterous fighting? WTF? Are you really saying that that is acceptable? If you are I really hope you don't have or ever have kids yourself. 6 years IMO is about the tenth anyone harming/sexually abusing kids deserves- they should never see the light of day again and should never be allowed the chance to get near another child.


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Ok so picture the situation...your ex wife/girlfriend hates the sight of you and the only way she can get rid of you is if you have abused ur kid. She questions how his/her day went with daddy at the swimming pool..he/she says "we had good fun...he pushed me under the water"

Next weekend he takes them to a park and some kids are skipping..he asks if his son/daughter can join in...kid says no coz there is no-one to turn the rope...he offers and guess what..hes accused of whipping the kid with a rope...do I have to go on?

My point was that the crimes he was acussed of did not warrent a six year sentence, he has to either have had a history or did some serious damage to these kids.

Before you get on your high horse saying i dont know what im talking about...first of all I was sexually abused by my grandfather for most of my childhood.

I promised myself that I would NEVER let my kids be abused. I had a son of 5yrs when I met my second partner, 3 years later we had a son and 18 months later we had a daughter. My daughter was 6 weeks old when the police knocked on the door and arrested him for sexually abusing his daughter from his first marriage. I had no idea and I had lived with the guy for 4+ years.

He went to court on 3 charges and pleaded not guilty to 2 charges and admited "oh yes ...I did do the 3rd one"

He was in jail for a whole 3 weeks and got let off with a suspended sentence.

I tried eveything to get rid of him coz I hated his guts but was actually put under pressure from social services to keep in touch otherwise he would go "underground" and they would not be able to track him.

The showdown came on my daughters 4th birthday when he turned up drunk, he verbally abused everyone and totally ruined the day. I threw him out the house and was glad to get the kids in bed. Luckily my mother stayed the night because he came back, he cut the phone lines outside and after hours of banginging on the door he broke the back door in. He came in and wrecked the house, the kids upstairs were screaming and I was trying my best to calm him down and survive, a neighour must have phoned the police because he panicked when he heard the sirens. He asked me to back him up saying it was all a mistake and when I told him to go to hell he tried to kill me. His hands were round my throat when my oldest (then 12 yr old) stabbed him in the back with his penknife and he ran off.

My daughter is 10 years old now and to be honest I dont think I will ever trust a man again, I will stay single and make sure no one will ever touch my kids.

[M3boy]

I have only just seen this thread, and am sickened by it all.

In our old House, our next door neighbour was an elderly gentleman who was very friendly. He always talked to the kids, gave them sweets, gave us alcohol, invited us to his parties etc.....

Then one day we find out he had sexually abused two little girls in our street. From memory he got 4 years.

The world is a sick place.

My thoughts go out to the children involved , their families, and anyone who had contact with MT - especially Sophie.

You all know me and Charmaine have 6 kids - and I for one hope he never makes it out of Prison.

[bhoywonder]

Jesus suz


real sorry to hear that

very harrowing stuff

I understand that you have to put your kids 1st.......


You think one day u might rekindle your faith in men?

[bobby1]

This thread is getting more harrowing by the day, I would love to support a collection at bb4 but I think the correct course would be to donate the proceeds to a childrens charity. I am not sure we would be doing the right thing trying to pass this on to the family involved in this awful thing.

[BigTomatoes]

very sorry to hear that too suzanne, the fact is no-one will truly understand unless they have been involved in this kind of situation.

 the sad fact is that this paedophilia is far more rife on the streets of Britain than many of us like to consider , out of sight out of matter et al.

 i heard once from a top police officer that there is , on average , 1 sex offender or abuser on every street in Britain , scary reading , but the important thing is

 we educate our kids ( ourselves because the school is too PC , probaly scared incase they offend any sex offenders ) of any dangers , and to try our best to protect

 them , we also need help from the government to name and shame ( identify ) the threats and start treating them like the animals they are. i think TBH the

 government arent equipped or ready to deal with the problem , and are scared of the general publics reaction ( horror ) at the true scale of the poblem

[taximan007]

PROBLEM: we live in a society where there are to many "do-gooders"

"these people (abusers/sexual/physical against children) are sick they need our help!!!!! BOLLOX

They need putting up against a wall and SHOT. end of!!!!!!

Put the money WASTED on looking after them to better use.

[M3boy]

PROBLEM: we live in a society where there are to many "do-gooders"

"these people (abusers/sexual/physical against children) are sick they need our help!!!!! BOLLOX

They need putting up against a wall and SHOT. end of!!!!!!

Put the money WASTED on looking after them to better use.

I totally agree with this.

The only problem is, that our Judicial system is flawed, and innocent people are convicted.

What I have never understood, is why we have a Jury/Court case at all.

By this I mean, in our day and age, lie detectors must be so much more advanced and are supposidly 99% accurate - so why not just use this to proove guilt or Innocence - this would be far far more reliable than the system we have at the moment and at a greatly reduced cost to the Tax payers. The saved money could then go into better education.

Our prisons are overcrowded, and you hear so many stories of people being let out early only to re offend.

Something needs to be done and maybe capital punishment is the way to go?

[taximan007]

PROBLEM: we live in a society where there are to many "do-gooders"

"these people (abusers/sexual/physical against children) are sick they need our help!!!!! BOLLOX

They need putting up against a wall and SHOT. end of!!!!!!

Put the money WASTED on looking after them to better use.

I totally agree with this.

The only problem is, that our Judicial system is flawed, and innocent people are convicted.

What I have never understood, is why we have a Jury/Court case at all.

By this I mean, in our day and age, lie detectors must be so much more advanced and are supposidly 99% accurate - so why not just use this to proove guilt or Innocence - this would be far far more reliable than the system we have at the moment and at a greatly reduced cost to the Tax payers. The saved money could then go into better education.

Our prisons are overcrowded, and you hear so many stories of people being let out early only to re offend.

Something needs to be done and maybe capital punishment is the way to go?

FYP

I cant disagree with this, but where its a case of "bang to rights" Then disperse of them

[londonpokergirl]

only just caught up and am absolutely amazed, really harrowing stuff

suz my thoughts go to you too, there are way too many sick puppies out there  

[Royal Flush]

PROBLEM: we live in a society where there are to many "do-gooders"

"these people (abusers/sexual/physical against children) are sick they need our help!!!!! BOLLOX

They need putting up against a wall and SHOT. end of!!!!!!

Put the money WASTED on looking after them to better use.

The voice of common sense.

Terminally ill Cancer patients are a massive drain on the resources of the NHS, why don't we just shoot them as well?

[RED-DOG]

Terminally ill Cancer patients are a massive drain on the resources of the NHS, why don't we just shoot them as well?

My son was a terminaly ill cancer patient James, and I have no doubt other members have loved ones who are suffering as we speak. 

Do you ever consider the feelings of others?

[madasahatstand]

PROBLEM: we live in a society where there are to many "do-gooders"

"these people (abusers/sexual/physical against children) are sick they need our help!!!!! BOLLOX

They need putting up against a wall and SHOT. end of!!!!!!

Put the money WASTED on looking after them to better use.

The voice of common sense.

Terminally ill Cancer patients are a massive drain on the resources of the NHS, why don't we just shoot them as well?

having a mother who was terminally with cancer and being treated by the nhs, i take great offence to your comment and am sick you would try to compare this to the fecking sick stuff we are reading on here. you may have meant this as a comparison or whatever but i reckon its bang out of order