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« Reply #4440 on: November 20, 2011, 01:24:34 PM »

If no one else heard what was said, and one party says one thing and another says the opposite, without any additional evidence, you can be certain what happened?

Did I misread yesterday's paper?


I don't know, which one? Going to need more information than that to be able to give an answer.

Telegraph reported Suarez as having admitted using a spanish word which he says he didn't think of as racist.
Is that a legitimate defence? I can call someone whatever I choose and say "I didn't think it was offensive"
Evra reacted to the comments on the day and Suarez presumably now understands that whatever his intent, offence was caused. A swift apology might well have saved an awful lot of newsprint and debate don't you think?





Seeing as Spain is pretty much a racist country, then spanish speaking countries probably dont think it, even if it is to most people.
Think Suarez is guilty myself, got form for it too apparently
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« Reply #4441 on: November 20, 2011, 04:34:32 PM »

Reportedly, apparently, according to.

10 times he said it to 36 cameras was it? 360 opps to be caught and we're still in the realms of guesswork.

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« Reply #4442 on: November 20, 2011, 06:04:46 PM »

GTFI delighted with them 3 points, would have settled for 1-1 when they scored.

Really played with a swagger at times for the 1st 55mins, complete momentum shift when they scored a jammy goal but we dug in and Johnson produced the magic!

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« Reply #4443 on: November 20, 2011, 07:57:07 PM »

GTFI delighted with them 3 points, would have settled for 1-1 when they scored.

Really played with a swagger at times for the 1st 55mins, complete momentum shift when they scored a jammy goal but we dug in and Johnson produced the magic!

Happy happy

don't think I've ever agreed with a post more!   With my Dad and Brother both Chelsea fans, and I was with my Brother tonight, a pretty good evening all round!
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« Reply #4444 on: November 20, 2011, 07:58:24 PM »

But why oh why oh why do we play like that in the first 45, but then play like we did against the likes of Norwich and Swansea?

million$ Title winning question?!
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« Reply #4445 on: November 21, 2011, 07:53:27 AM »

Nine games unbeaten, not too bad then?

Thought Skrtel was immense, and deserved MOTM. Don't remember those words being in the same sentence too many times before!
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« Reply #4446 on: November 21, 2011, 07:54:39 AM »

glad i got paid liv always seem to do well at the Bridge Smiley thought Kennys tactics were very good.
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« Reply #4447 on: November 21, 2011, 07:56:56 AM »

glad i got paid liv always seem to do well at the Bridge Smiley thought Kennys tactics were very good.


You mean his substitutions at the end of the match? Well done to agents Mereiles and Torres Wink
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« Reply #4448 on: November 26, 2011, 12:32:11 PM »

Carragher likes to keep Reina at arm's length:



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« Reply #4449 on: November 26, 2011, 02:33:40 PM »

Does not like being fisted before the game, but in the bath after its a totally different story
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« Reply #4450 on: November 27, 2011, 12:45:56 PM »

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...is-career.html

Don't know if this has been posted already guys, have a read it's a stunner.

Liverpool's veteran defender Jamie Carragher is determined to enjoy every minute of the rest of his career
There is only one truly invincible opponent a footballer will ever face. Time. It is unmoved by intimidation, contemptuous of mind games, cannot be outwitted by elaborate tactical master plans and is brutally unsympathetic to those it determines to be nearing a career’s end.


Liverpool’s Jamie Carragher is aware of just how ruthless it can be. He is far from finished at Anfield, but last week at Stamford Bridge he experienced a sobering reminder of his footballing mortality. He was available for an important Liverpool game and was not picked. That had not happened for 11 seasons and could be repeated against Manchester City at Anfield on Sunday.
Several years ago, such decisions might have brought consternation. Today finds Carragher, 33, in his deep-thinking role, adapting to unfamiliar but inevitable changes in circumstances and already assessing what lies in store when his No 23 jersey is surely retired with him.
“I am not the future of Liverpool. Daniel Agger, Martin Skrtel and Sebastian Coates are,” said Carragher. “But I can still be part of the present for a few more years. It’s only one game I’ve not been selected so it’s not the end yet.
“Over the last decade if I had missed a match I would have gone straight back into the team when available. This time I didn’t and I have to accept it, agree with it and understand it. I was out for a couple of weeks and the lads who came in did really well. I’ve always said mental strength is important in every player and this is another test of that.
“In the past there were people saying if Steven Gerrard and me weren’t playing there was a problem, but now you look at it and say out of the last three games we’ve won two away from home. That’s good for the club. We have to look to the future. I’m sure the manager, [Director of Football] Damien Comolli and owners are looking at that while wanting to make sure we’re doing everything to win from one week to the next. I think I can speak for Stevie too when I say we’re desperate to help the club win trophies as much as we can, whether we play all the games or not.

“That has always been our aim. I still always want to play the next game, but this club has been great to me and I will never be disrespectful to it or to anyone who is selected ahead of me. That was one of the things Gérard Houllier always said to me. You must respect those that are playing, especially those in your position.
“If I’ve played nearly 700 games for Liverpool, it means someone else has been on the bench showing respect for me, so I have no problem when it is the other way around. I am at one of the biggest teams in the world, a club which is looking for players in every country. We’re not some Mickey Mouse club short of top-class players so to have been able to go straight back into the team every time for so long has been a great achievement.
“You want to be involved and you’re disappointed when you are not, but I am aware my situation is changing over the next few years. Last weekend may have been one of the first signs of that.”
Thoughts inevitably drift to what happens once those signs are displayed more frequently. It is widely presumed that Carragher will take the fast track into management, but he is cautious about committing to a coaching career. He says he has learnt from the best and wants to continue doing so before making a decision.
“I have an idea what I would like to do,” he says. “You’re basically left with two options when you finish; the managerial route or a media job. Whatever’s best for my family and me will determine that. I’m not 100 per cent certain to become a manager because I won’t take any job just to stay in the game and I have done some media work, which I enjoy.
“In my first year after retiring I will take time out with the family and also try to see how different coaches work. Maybe I will try to see how Pep Guardiola, Jose Mourinho and some of the top Italian coaches work on the training ground. Arsène Wenger, too. I try and analyse everything – why a manager has made one decision over another. It’s not to be critical; it is because I always think about the game after it’s been played. Management is getting more difficult because everyone has an opinion now. It used to just be the press, but now it is the public through social networking on Twitter, Facebook and whatever else.
“People need to understand how difficult it is for players to go straight into coaching. Andre Villas-Boas started his coaching badge at 16, so think how far ahead he is of a player just starting that process in his early thirties. It takes a long time to get the qualifications, although you pick up experience and knowledge from playing.
“Stuart Pearce organised it for me to spend time on the FA licence course in Reading last summer and I really enjoyed it and I will definitely do the two-week course needed to pass all my badges.”
The FA is keen for Carragher to become one of its elite coaches. It is easy to see why given the broad education he has received at Liverpool as they have dabbled in varying football philosophies over the past decade.
Carragher’s insight into how English football can revive itself can be summarised as identifying and enforcing what we are good at more effectively rather than being a third-rate copy of someone else.
“We all want to play the Barcelona way, but we can’t,” he says. “People are getting too obsessed about copying them. Even when they’re in a bit of trouble you see goalkeepers wanting to show what good footballers they are, playing it from the back. What did Sir Alex Ferguson say about David de Gea’s mistake against Benfica the other night? That he should have kicked the ball into the stand. He is right, but Barcelona have changed how people think about the game.
“I love watching them play, but they had the same philosophy during the days they were struggling to qualify for the Champions League and we were beating them in the Uefa Cup. They just have players that are a lot better at it now.
“When I started everyone was saying the same about Ajax. They were the blueprint for our academy. Then everyone was talking about Clairefontaine in France. Now it’s all about Le Maisa. We always want to do what everyone else has already done. It is right to study them but there is no point copying. What we have to develop is our own identity.
“I read what my friend Xabi Alonso said about tackling being perceived as a quality here, but that’s part of our culture. Maybe it mattered more 20 years ago, but you can’t just change the culture of a country.
“Every father who watches his son play wants him to be a great footballer, but they are also intent on making sure he is not a coward on the pitch. That’s the mentality. Wenger explained it very well when he said the English always go to war.
“It’s not just about being able to tackle and nothing else, but you want players with the full package. If you can develop the technique, it’s competitiveness that can give us an extra edge over other countries.
“Don’t give me all this 'it’s the fancy dan foreign coaches’ who play all the great football, either. Of all the managers I’ve had at Liverpool, the ones who wanted to play the most football were a fella from Bootle, Roy Evans, and a fella from Glasgow, Kenny Dalglish. I’m not saying the others wanted long-ball football, but they were more tactical and that meant doing anything to win, even if it meant hitting it early to the big man up front, Emile Heskey, who Gérard Houllier bought, or Peter Crouch, signed by Rafa Benítez.
“We would go to Europe, play 10 men behind the ball and get a result and we were very successful playing that way winning everything but the league title. It’s not right to criticise that, either, but it has been like that in this country for a long time. Sven-Goran Eriksson and Fabio Capello were the same. It is always about the players you’ve got. It doesn’t matter which way you go, the game of football is there to be won and there are many different ways to do it.”
As the passion rises in Carragher’s voice, so it becomes clear what a loss he will be to Liverpool and English football if he does not make the transition from the pitch to the technical area.
“Who knows what the future holds?” he asks, the interview ending while Carragher still has much more to offer. Time, as ever, makes subjects of us all.
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« Reply #4451 on: November 27, 2011, 03:58:40 PM »

Legend.

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« Reply #4452 on: November 27, 2011, 04:08:42 PM »

I think Liverpool will be punished today. 
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« Reply #4453 on: November 27, 2011, 04:53:32 PM »

I think Liverpool will be punished today. 

Been a close first half with both teams having decent possession and chances. See what the second half brings.
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« Reply #4454 on: November 27, 2011, 05:26:11 PM »

I think Liverpool will be punished today. 

Been a close first half with both teams having decent possession and chances. See what the second half brings.

Closer than I expected.

But here comes Super Mario . . . .
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