Liverpool FC

[sweet potata!]

Mond - did you know about Scharner and Fergies comments that I mentioned?

[sweet potata!]

When I say I'm biased Mond I mean that I'm the founder member and chairman of the Luis Suarez fan club, so I can assure you without being rude or anything that he was getting dogs abuse at every away ground he played at, one thing I will concede that was not good from him earlier in the season was him being a bit ott in berating a lino or two.

His looks probably dont let people warm to him either!!!!

[mondatoo]

Mond - did you know about Scharner and Fergies comments that I mentioned?

I didn't no. Pretty certain there was a lot of players more disliked than Suarez before the Evra case, now maybe not so much.

[david3103]

Mond - did you know about Scharner and Fergies comments that I mentioned?

I didn't no. Pretty certain there was a lot of players more disliked than Suarez before the Evra case, now maybe not so much.

Drogba for one (although he learnt to stay on his feet), half the team at OT for a few more, plus Joey Barton, John Terry, feel free to add your own.
At least now the LFC faithful and the ABUs have a replacement for Neville, G to dislike (more than any one else)

[Nakor]

This refusal does not seemed to have got the same amount of Press coverage.

[Eso Kral]

^^ Good spot!!

[mondatoo]

  Class.

[The Baron]

Not sure I agree that we should feel sorry for Suarez, he's an adult and on a number of occasions he has failed to act in a manner befitting an adult with any brains. Every time there has been a situation where he could have reduced the tensions, or negative feelings towards himself he has stocked the flames and made it impossible for neutrals to accept he is a stand up person.

I agree he is in a difficult situation now, but its 100% his own fault...You cant change the past but at least showing that you are learning from past mistakes would help.

Deceiving to the club and making them look like twats will be his ultimate downfall not because he made racist comments.

In any other job I can think off he would have been instantly sacked.

In any other job the lack of evidence would have seen the charges dropped pretty quickly.

Aside from the 3 seconds of non-handshake, genuinely, who acted like a bugger tw*t on Saturday, Suarez or  Evra? The crunching tackle on Rio, (lol) the chasing down the tunnel, the post match jumping about... The actions of a grown man with brains obv....

This is was tilts me, Liverpool fans still not accepting he is guilty. Until you accept he is guilty of racist abuse you wont move on from it. I am guessing this is the problem with the place, they all think Suarez is the real victim. Listen I tell someone at University where I work you call someone a negro, I wont get the luxury of a 3 man tribunal its an instant dismissal, Suarez was more then fairly dealt with. If there was any shred of evidence of his innocence Liverpool would have appealed, they did not.

Can you not make a post without refering to Evra? again another problem with Liverpool fans unable to defend Suarez unless they slate someone elses actions. This aint whistle blowing where the best form of defence is to attack the victim of the crime.

You say Suarez was ok at the weekend after the non-handshake? Who kicked the ball into the the crowd?  

This is what tilts me. People are treating the FAs verdict as though it's something from a courtroom. I blame the FA for this.

Negro means black in Spanish. He called someone black.

Referring to Evra shouldn't really happen I admit but he makes it very easy for us by being the prick he is.

[The Baron]

Massively stereotypical to say "the problem with the place". It seems you're shooting your own argument in the foot with comments like that perhaps?

[The Baron]

Barnes legend:

http://www.talksport.co.uk/radio/press-pass/blog/2012-02-12/barnes-racism-within-football-not-being-dealt-properly

Really interesting. Embarrassed to say I hadn't even questioned notions of 'race'.

Having said that it's always been obvious to me that most 'racists' don't really discriminate on notions of race but almost exclusively on peoples outward appearance.

I'm really glad someone posted after listening. This really made me think too. The guy speaks more sense On the subject than everyone involved in this incident put together.

Yes, probs agree with that too.

[Peter Costa]

Wasn't much doubt about the fact Suarez bit Otman Bakkal was there?

None at all. But I gather he served his punishment before coming to the UK and rightly so. But let me ask you, did you see any actions from Suarez before the Evra incident that you found disturbing? I know about comments of diving etc, but have we not see much worse from others in the past and since his coming to the UK? Just interested to see if I missed something in particular.

Yes he served his time, but it shows what sort of a man he is.

I have watched many thousands of football matches and I have never seen a player do anything like that before.

Nothing of note in the handful of games he'd played in England prior to the Evra incident.

Thought you might find this interesting as it shows Defoe biting Mascherano back in 2006

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzXBSvngRR0

Strange how you or I did not recall this incident. I never even knew it existed until a saw a link on one of the forums.

[kinboshi]

Predictions for the final?

[George2Loose]

Predictions for the final?

Think Liverpool 3-1

[sweet potata!]

Liverpool  to make a meal of it, then Captain Marvel will drag us out out of the mire as per.

[kinboshi]

Predictions for the final?

Think Liverpool 3-1

Hope you're right!

Woeful defending, standing off the Cardiff players giving them time and space on the ball.  Cool finish though.

Annoying thing is I'd backed Johnson to score the first goal at 30/1...