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Topic: Vegas & The Aftermath - Diary (Read 7894765 times)
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Re: Vegas & The Aftermath - Diary
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December 04, 2009, 04:24:47 PM »
Quote from: StuartHopkin on December 04, 2009, 04:20:00 PM
I think Tikay isnt a fan of the long term staking more than the one offs.
I heard he's involved with blondepoker, a company who operate a staking scheme for poker players
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Re: Vegas & The Aftermath - Diary
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Quote from: StuartHopkin on December 04, 2009, 04:20:00 PM
Quote from: GreekStein on December 04, 2009, 04:17:56 PM
Quote from: tikay on December 04, 2009, 04:12:58 PM
Quote from: GreekStein on December 04, 2009, 03:27:57 PM
To sidetrack slightyly, that kid you tipped as being kinda good is in the last 68 of the Prague EPT - with 462k in chips!
gogogo Toby Lewis.
I think he was partly staked by several blondes.
I think he has a great future, & have said so repeatedly. I'd prefer he did not get ahead of himself & get in a mess with staking, but that's just my view, & it won't be shared by many.
Nothing would please me more than were he to win the lot there. Time those county boys from Hampshire did something.
I take it you've never bought a piece in anyone then?
I think Tikay isnt a fan of the long term staking more than the one offs.
This - but it was not always the case. I've just changed & polarised my views on it quite recently.
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Re: Vegas & The Aftermath - Diary
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Quote from: tikay on December 04, 2009, 04:17:06 PM
Quite a few footballers were in there regularly, too - Kenny Burns - obv - & a big tall centre forward who later got tx'd to Man United, I forget his name. not sure whether he was DC, NC or NF.
Gary Birtles?
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Re: Vegas & The Aftermath - Diary
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December 04, 2009, 04:26:36 PM »
Quote from: gatso on December 04, 2009, 04:24:47 PM
Quote from: StuartHopkin on December 04, 2009, 04:20:00 PM
I think Tikay isnt a fan of the long term staking more than the one offs.
I heard he's involved with blondepoker, a company who operate a staking scheme for poker players
Norr I was getting to this bit...you're too sharp
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Re: Vegas & The Aftermath - Diary
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December 04, 2009, 04:27:24 PM »
Quote from: gatso on December 04, 2009, 04:24:47 PM
Quote from: StuartHopkin on December 04, 2009, 04:20:00 PM
I think Tikay isnt a fan of the long term staking more than the one offs.
I heard he's involved with blondepoker, a company who operate a staking scheme for poker players
Lol, probe away all you like, I don't mind, no skeletons in my cupboard!
You are 100% correct.
My views have changed in the matter of late, as I've learned more about what's happening recently in the poker world.
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Re: Vegas & The Aftermath - Diary
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December 04, 2009, 04:28:05 PM »
Quote from: AndrewT on December 04, 2009, 04:25:09 PM
Quote from: tikay on December 04, 2009, 04:17:06 PM
Quite a few footballers were in there regularly, too - Kenny Burns - obv - & a big tall centre forward who later got tx'd to Man United, I forget his name. not sure whether he was DC, NC or NF.
Gary Birtles?
No, don't think so. Pretty sure he was a Scot.
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Re: Vegas & The Aftermath - Diary
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Quote from: GreekStein on December 04, 2009, 04:26:36 PM
Quote from: gatso on December 04, 2009, 04:24:47 PM
Quote from: StuartHopkin on December 04, 2009, 04:20:00 PM
I think Tikay isnt a fan of the long term staking more than the one offs.
I heard he's involved with blondepoker, a company who operate a staking scheme for poker players
Norr I was getting to this bit...you're too sharp
Lol, speed up Cos, I'm 16 miles ahead of you, & know exactly what your route is!
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Re: Vegas & The Aftermath - Diary
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December 04, 2009, 04:31:13 PM »
Come on Matt, we are waiting for the answer to the Dale Winton thing.
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Re: Vegas & The Aftermath - Diary
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December 04, 2009, 04:31:46 PM »
Quote from: tikay on December 04, 2009, 04:29:03 PM
Quote from: GreekStein on December 04, 2009, 04:26:36 PM
Quote from: gatso on December 04, 2009, 04:24:47 PM
Quote from: StuartHopkin on December 04, 2009, 04:20:00 PM
I think Tikay isnt a fan of the long term staking more than the one offs.
I heard he's involved with blondepoker, a company who operate a staking scheme for poker players
Norr I was getting to this bit...you're too sharp
Lol, speed up Cos, I'm 16 miles ahead of you, & know exactly what your route is!
Just like most of my online opponents this week then!
When you say things like as 'I've learned a lot more about things in the poker world' are these things you're allowed to share? If not now will they become apparent soon?
It kills me when people say things like this and don't elaborate.
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Re: Vegas & The Aftermath - Diary
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December 04, 2009, 04:36:18 PM »
My views on staking are completely the opposite and one off staking arrangements are really not for me. It is a bit of a gamble really and has massive variance, not to mention the ridic mark ups people make on these things.
Whereas long term staking deals, assuming you get the right horse can be very profitable and as long you get the first bit right, very +ev.
To pick up an early point, if you do your research properly online you can find out some very interesting stuff about a potential stakee that just simply isn't possible with live players.
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Re: Vegas & The Aftermath - Diary
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December 04, 2009, 04:38:29 PM »
Quote from: GreekStein on December 04, 2009, 04:31:46 PM
Quote from: tikay on December 04, 2009, 04:29:03 PM
Quote from: GreekStein on December 04, 2009, 04:26:36 PM
Quote from: gatso on December 04, 2009, 04:24:47 PM
Quote from: StuartHopkin on December 04, 2009, 04:20:00 PM
I think Tikay isnt a fan of the long term staking more than the one offs.
I heard he's involved with blondepoker, a company who operate a staking scheme for poker players
Norr I was getting to this bit...you're too sharp
Lol, speed up Cos, I'm 16 miles ahead of you, & know exactly what your route is!
Just like most of my online opponents this week then!
When you say things like as
'I've learned a lot more about things in the poker world'
are these things you're allowed to share? If not now will they become apparent soon?
It kills me when people say things like this and don't elaborate.
I'm like everyone, including you I assume. My views on anything & everything are always subject to change in the light of what we see, do & hear.
I've said today that I think the Online poker economy has verred alarmingly towards a credit-based affair, & I've outlined why. And I think that's bad, whatever way I look at it.
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Re: Vegas & The Aftermath - Diary
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Reply #15986 on:
December 04, 2009, 04:39:39 PM »
Right I'm about to shut blonde down so I can stay another hour late and get my work done.
Tikay, you're my hero.
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Re: Vegas & The Aftermath - Diary
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December 04, 2009, 04:40:02 PM »
Quote from: Longy on December 04, 2009, 04:36:18 PM
My views on staking are completely opposite on staking and one off staking arrangements are really not for me. It is a bit of a gamble really and has massive variance, not to mention the ridic mark ups people make on these things.
Whereas long term staking deals, assuming you get the right horse can be very profitable and as long you get the first bit right, very +ev.
To pick up an early point, if you do your research properly online you can find out some very interesting stuff about a potential stakee that just simply isn't possible with live players.
Definately agree with this. I find it it completely unbelievable that people manage to word staking requests as 100% for 70% equity and sell out when if they said I think Im 1.4 over the field they would get laughed at!
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Re: Vegas & The Aftermath - Diary
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December 04, 2009, 04:44:43 PM »
Quote from: StuartHopkin on December 04, 2009, 04:40:02 PM
Quote from: Longy on December 04, 2009, 04:36:18 PM
My views on staking are completely opposite on staking and one off staking arrangements are really not for me. It is a bit of a gamble really and has massive variance, not to mention the ridic mark ups people make on these things.
Whereas long term staking deals, assuming you get the right horse can be very profitable and as long you get the first bit right, very +ev.
To pick up an early point, if you do your research properly online you can find out some very interesting stuff about a potential stakee that just simply isn't possible with live players.
Definately agree with this. I find it it completely unbelievable that people manage to word staking requests as 100% for 70% equity and sell out when if they said I think Im 1.4 over the field they would get laughed at!
...and you still stake them.
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Re: Vegas & The Aftermath - Diary
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December 04, 2009, 04:47:41 PM »
Quote from: Karabiner on December 04, 2009, 03:18:53 PM
Quote from: Chompy on December 04, 2009, 02:30:53 PM
Good few poker players I've come across that are/have been decent snooker players, century makers including...
James Akenhead
Kevin O'Leary
Me
Dominic Rice'n'peas (almost turned pro).
Any others to add to this illustrious list?
I played with KOL recently. First thing he did was set up the balls and challenge me to knock 10 consecutive blues in off the spot, impossible, once you lose position by an inch, it goes 3 inches, 9 inches, then in and out of baulk, etc.
I potted 9 on the trot, the cue ball coming to rest perfectly tucked in behind the yellow. One careful bit of angle calculation later and wiiii, in went the 10th, one of the best iron dukes you could ever see. KOL hasn't managed to close his mouth since....
When I was 10, I was given a 7' snooker table, on which I very quickly built up to knocking in 50+ Onto a full size table, this equated to 30-odd once in amongst the balls. And against many players, you frequently were. When I was 18, I used to work in a casino to pay my way through college and at 5am we would make our way over to the snooker hall. Playing for a fiver a frame, I very quickly rattled up so much profit on tick that it suddenly dawned on me I had no chance of seeing it.
To quote Tikay, £10 mill or 11mill - what difference? you won't see either. Then it dawned on me that some major anti-hustling would have to be done to ever get to see a penny. I would now have to throw so many frames, to give the one mark in particular some hope of getting out of it, and some hope of me collecting
something
on the debt. I didn't want much, as I now realised of course it wasn't a fair bet, I could win any frame I chose. So to compensate for my time, the agreement was I could put the light and my f&b on his tab while he was in makeup. A phrase used at least a decade before poker players nicked it.
You would be surprised how many bacon sandwiches can be eaten in a single session. Finally I'd just had enough, knew he had £50 on him and engineered the results so that he either "won" the frame and gave me £50 settlement or "lost" the frame and it was £500. Of course, he was always going to win this frame. Modesty forbids me from saying what happened to the £50, but I am pleased to say that it didn't benefit me in any way, and hopefully it was a £50 lesson (+a humungous bacon sarnie tab) for him. Although my money would be on him not having a pot to piss in to this very day.
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