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« Reply #28290 on: May 02, 2012, 12:49:09 PM »

Only 5?


Wayne Rooney

Alex Higgins

Colin Montgomery

Ronnie O'Sullivan

Mike Tyson.
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« Reply #28291 on: May 02, 2012, 12:49:23 PM »

Alex Higgins

Kieran Fallon. Great rider, not exactly "straight"

O J Simpson
. Enough said

Michael Vick, the quarterback. Rehabilitated now on the field, but the dangerous dog-fighting conviction was nasty.

"No matter what Vick does on and off the football field, he is always going to be a leper to a majority of American sports fans."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Vick

Barry Bonds the central figure on the steroids in baseball scandal over two decades

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« Reply #28292 on: May 02, 2012, 12:56:33 PM »


Often forgotten in the Senna story is his short time with Toleman.

Toleman, for the occasional reader who may be younger than me, was run by a posh bloke called Ted Toleman, but we all loved Toleman F1, because it was a sort of little guy v big guy thing, & Toleman were titchy.

It almost went busto, but was taken over, as a means of entry into F1 – because there were no spare “slots” in F1 at the time  - & became Team Benetton. Colours of Benetton & all that.  I think the architect of that deal was that bent bloke who later became involved with QPR, before being warned off an “unfit person to be a Football Club Director”. (What an odd concept, “not fit to be a Football Club Director”!).   

Toleman fell out with the powers that be frequently, especially the tyre manufacturers.

What most do not realise, though, is that Toleman F1 was the breeding ground for so many who went on to greater things. Derek Warwick is, perhaps, not the best example, but also there were such luminaries as Rory Byrne, Pat Symonds, not to mention young Ayrton. Quite a line-up.

I’ve been trying to pick up a book about Toleman F1, it was such an important era in F1, & Toleman were loved by all of us, without exception.  Anyone have any clues on a Toleman book, please?


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« Reply #28293 on: May 02, 2012, 12:57:56 PM »

Only 5?


Wayne Rooney

Alex Higgins

Colin Montgomery

Ronnie O'Sullivan

Mike Tyson.

Incredibly, Tom, the first 5 names that entered my mind had three of those on it!
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« Reply #28294 on: May 02, 2012, 01:00:38 PM »

Bennetton/QPR=Flavio Briatore

Some great Toleman pics on here http://www.mcz.com/f1/team/toleman.htm


Senna/Moncao/Toleman is prominent in a section of the film. He flung that thing round Monaco!
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« Reply #28295 on: May 02, 2012, 01:04:35 PM »

I think Colin Montgomerie is a really nice guy. Bit huffy on a golf course maybe but i don't mind that. Sam Torrance on the other hand is a right tosser.

Ashley Cole and John Terry seem to fit the bill here.

King would be Collymore though. How did a woman basher get a job in the media ?

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« Reply #28296 on: May 02, 2012, 01:26:01 PM »

I think Colin Montgomerie is a really nice guy. Bit huffy on a golf course maybe but i don't mind that. Sam Torrance on the other hand is a right tosser.

Ashley Cole and John Terry seem to fit the bill here.

King would be Collymore though. How did a woman basher get a job in the media ?

Sandy

Same way Boycott did?
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« Reply #28297 on: May 02, 2012, 01:29:05 PM »

Boycott did lose his media work after that incident - it was only after a number of years had passed (and he beat cancer) that he came back.
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« Reply #28298 on: May 02, 2012, 01:36:33 PM »

Bennetton/QPR=Flavio Briatore

Some great Toleman pics on here http://www.mcz.com/f1/team/toleman.htm


Senna/Moncao/Toleman is prominent in a section of the film. He flung that thing round Monaco!

The Toleman Story: Last Romantics in Formula 1.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=The+Toleman+Story%3A+Last+Romantics+in+Formula+1

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« Reply #28299 on: May 02, 2012, 01:38:27 PM »

One of my first F1 memories

classic stuff (daft, but classic)

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« Reply #28300 on: May 02, 2012, 02:28:42 PM »

One of my first F1 memories

classic stuff (daft, but classic)

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It was radical & quite barmy, but I think it won a race.
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« Reply #28301 on: May 02, 2012, 02:38:44 PM »

A friend of my dad knew both Nick Faldo and Ian Woosnam and he frequently told us they were tossers away from the game.
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« Reply #28302 on: May 02, 2012, 02:46:19 PM »

A friend of my dad knew both Nick Faldo and Ian Woosnam and he frequently told us they were tossers away from the game.

Yes but was it true? How accurate was his judgement, what was he basing it on?

I mean, lots of people say Tony is a tosser.  Oh wait...
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« Reply #28303 on: May 02, 2012, 02:52:50 PM »

Toleman features heavily in the film, as does that rainy race in Monaco. Some of the old footage, like Tighty said, is fantastic, and some of the inside stuff from the drivers' meetings etc fascinating. Just watch the film rather than deciding all these films are the same! Stubborn old git!!
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« Reply #28304 on: May 02, 2012, 02:57:41 PM »



Shit or not, what a waste. One of the most gripping films/biogs I have seen in a while and left me feeling rather inadequate as a human. Classic display of a driven man with a tunnel visioned dream.

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