Vegas & The Aftermath - Diary

[tikay]

After crowing last week that I was murdering the cash-gmes at DTD, to the extend of over £3k, I added "it can't last", & I got well & truly mullered last night at Luton.

I sat in a Hold 'Em game whilst awaiting a DC seat, & lost my entire £250 pull-up on the first hand when my flopped set was beaten by a very visible & probable flopped straight which I refused to believe. "Seat at the DC" came the call, so I'm £250 down before I start.

It continued thus in the DC. Apart from playing too loose - I played much tighter & better at DTD last week - my only real error was seeing too many flops with marginals. This always leads to ruin, & it was to be my undoing.

But the cards were just not running right for me - some nights it goes for  us, others the opposite.

I had  under at Super Stud, &  "up", & drew the dream  next street, & started piling in the money for a possible scoop. I missed everything on streets 5, 6 & 7, & done the lot with my eventual A high.

Then, at the same game, I had the House in 5, but was faced by Addie showing A-A-K by street 5. I had him on A-low "under", & I was happy to take my chances that he's backed into 3 Aces, would not House-Up, & anyway, I'm beating trips, & his low looks dodgy. In fact, he had A-K under, & that was another £600 down the swanee.

I was £1,500 down at one stage, got £1k back, but then dropped another £600, to end up £1,100 down. Ouch.

I suppose a better player could pass my House (it was 5-5-5-4-4), but when I am "chasing", it seems to cloud my judgement.

Just when you think the game is easy.......On reflection, that under-house at Super-Stud was a shocking read by me.

[tikay]

Chili has poker in her genes - you all know about Uncle Peter, & Uncle Kim - he a stonking cash player - but Dad Angelo has some game too.

At DTD last week, I saw this amazing hand.

Local shrewdie Latif, & Angelo, Maria's Dad  - who's known as Lord Rock of Rockville, tangle.

Latif bets £60 on the turn of this Board.....

 

Angelo re-pops it to £200.

Latif instantly Passes. And turns over A-A-x-x for Aces full.

The Table is agog - "WHAT?" we all say.

Latif says "don't worry, it's an absolute certainty, Angelo has Quad Tens".

Angelo smiles knowingly, scoops the Pot, & says nowt. I'm still not sure he had them, & I can't make that Pass, either.

He's no fool, Angelo. Luckily we know that Daughter Maria would have been at it.

[RichEO]

I somehow won a £2,200 Pot last night, but I aged 20 years in the process.....

Lob Long graced our Table with his presence for a while, even though the game was a bit "flat" for him - he tends to move around the Cash Tables, & it's his trademark to spice up the game by popping it pre - not silly, but rather in the Flushy-style - looks daft, but he knows what he's doing.

He pops it every hand for an hour, & some wag comments on this.

Lob responds, quite rightly - "it's because you let me do it, not one of you has ever re-popped me yet. Repop-me & I might stop.....".

I just happen to be holding A-2-3-4-8 in Hi-Low at the time, & limp. Lob laises - sorry, Raises - & everyone calls. There's £180 in the middle now, so I  get all brave when it gets back to me, & shout - in a sort of dry whisper, because I was bricking it - "POT".

"Pardon" says the Dealer. "Pardon" said everyone else. I Re-Raise Pre in Onmaha every 83 years, but I had a cunning plan, to isolate Rob.

I said "POT". And I'm regretting this already, but I'll take Rob on Heads Up with this if I have to.

I'm expecting Rob to call or re-pop - re-pop was my expectation to be honest, at my temerity to re-pop him. But he just called. It's nice when a plan comes together. And 4 others call behind him. It's horrible when a plan goes tits up. There's the fat end of £1k in the middle now, & I have £480 behind.

I'm not actually feeling too well by now, but we see this Flop.

 

Wrll, Rainbow, and a nice low draw. I sorta have to shove here, because I play scared & weak, & if I check, I'm gonna get bullied off. So in it goes, £480.

Rob passes, phew, then it goes CALL CALL. And my heart goes beat beat.

Anyway, it comes perfect perfect, including the rivered & oh-so vital 5, & I hit the wheel, nobody has a better high, & I scoop the lot. £2,200 I think.

And pretty much lock-up for the night. That's more than enough excitement for 1 night at my age.

One of these nights I'm gonna get mullered, but I'm £3,500 to the good in the last 2 sessions at dtd. It can't last.

Nice one, tikay! Although, I'd be pretty happy with receiving 4 callers with a hand like that - a great chance of 3/4ing someone and should be easy to get away from if you miss the flop.

I am NEVER gonna be happy playing pots that big! But that's the game I sit in, & it's bound to happen now & then. I must confess, the adrenelin rush is huge, but I'd rather the pots did not get quite so big. I'd rather a dozen smaller pots than one hugey-wugey jobbie. The answer, I guess, is to move down a few levels, but greed is a weird & wonderful thing. Like sex drive, it forces us to do things that common-sense suggests are far from sensible.

There really aren't any lower dealers choice games though are there? It's a hard game to break into with large swings and large pots. I've been playing a 1-1 DC game in Stoke now and then but you can still win or lose several k in a night without any decisions to make.

Win some in hold 'em then take a punt at DC seems my best bet can't lose so to speak then.

[tikay]

Before it became a Tourist haven, I spent many holidays in The Gambia, in West Africa. These days hundreds of thousands of European Tourists take their holidays there every year, & I've not been back since about 1990. It's a poor country, but it gets plenty of Western Aid, & although AIDS is rife, they are on the case, & Tourism helps the economy, & the locals.

Not so, if you head some 500 miles south, still on the West Coast, across Senegal, Guinea-Bissau, & Guinea, where sits Sierra Leonne, officially bottom - 177th out of 177 - in the United Nations Human Developepment Index. Previously part of the British Empire, it gained Independence in 1961.

I read today in "The Independent" that.....

Child Mortality, in under 5's, per 1,000 births, is 282. 28%! Can you imagine that? In Europe, that figure is about 4 - or 0.4%. Put another way, it's seventy times worse in Sierra Leonne than in Europe.

Female life expectancy, (Europe averages 84 years) in Sierra Leonne is 42, similar to neighbouring Equatorial Guinea, Libreria, Angola, Niger, Mali & Somalia.

Sierra Leonne has a population of 5 million. During their recnt Civil War, most of the Medical Staff fled. Today, the entire State of Sierrra Leonne has to make do with just 10 Surgeons.

Sierra Leonne is about 6 hours away from the UK by air.

It does not bear thinking about. And that, I suppose, is why we don't.

[Royal Flush]

I am not sure whats worse, the raise of 5BB with KQ, the re-raised to 60BB with 84 or the call of 55BB with KQ.

All i know is i want to play for as much money as possible vs either player.

[77dave]

I am not sure whats worse, the raise of 5BB with KQ, the re-raised to 60BB with 84 or the call of 55BB with KQ.

All i know is i want to play for as much money as possible vs either player.

1 of them plays in a big  paduki/omaha 4/5/6 cash game   i have sat in it a couple of times  sickest game i have ever been in

i can get u a seat if you want flushy

[Jim-D]

Chili has poker in her genes - you all know about Uncle Peter, & Uncle Kim - he a stonking cash player - but Dad Angelo has some game too.

At dtd last week, I saw this amazing hand.

Local shrewdie Latif, & Angelo, Maria's Dad  - who's known as Lord Rock of Rockville, tangle.

Latif bets £60 on the turn of this Board.....

 

Angelo re-pops it to £200.

Latif instantly Passes. And turns over A-A-x-x for Aces full.

The Table is agog - "WHAT?" we all say.

Latif says "don't worry, it's an absolute certainty, Angelo has Quad Tens".

Angelo smiles knowingly, scoops the Pot, & says nowt. I'm still not sure he had them, & I can't make that Pass, either.

He's no fool, Angelo. Luckily we know that Daughter Maria would have been at it.

Is this a wind up?

[ifm]

chip dump

[tikay]

Chili has poker in her genes - you all know about Uncle Peter, & Uncle Kim - he a stonking cash player - but Dad Angelo has some game too.

At dtd last week, I saw this amazing hand.

Local shrewdie Latif, & Angelo, Maria's Dad  - who's known as Lord Rock of Rockville, tangle.

Latif bets £60 on the turn of this Board.....

 

Angelo re-pops it to £200.

Latif instantly Passes. And turns over A-A-x-x for Aces full.

The Table is agog - "WHAT?" we all say.

Latif says "don't worry, it's an absolute certainty, Angelo has Quad Tens".

Angelo smiles knowingly, scoops the Pot, & says nowt. I'm still not sure he had them, & I can't make that Pass, either.

He's no fool, Angelo. Luckily we know that Daughter Maria would have been at it.

Is this a wind up?

Nope, it's true, & it happened last week at DTD.

The thing was, he instapassed! No acting, no dwelling. "It's Angelo, he HAS to have quads".

I know the two individuals well. Latif would never chip dump to Angelo.

An amazing Pass by any standards. Latif was 100% certain that Angelo had Quads.

And Angelo never showed......

[Tractor]

Chili has poker in her genes - you all know about Uncle Peter, & Uncle Kim - he a stonking cash player - but Dad Angelo has some game too.

At dtd last week, I saw this amazing hand.

Local shrewdie Latif, & Angelo, Maria's Dad  - who's known as Lord Rock of Rockville, tangle.

Latif bets £60 on the turn of this Board.....

 

Angelo re-pops it to £200.

Latif instantly Passes. And turns over A-A-x-x for Aces full.

The Table is agog - "WHAT?" we all say.

Latif says "don't worry, it's an absolute certainty, Angelo has Quad Tens".

Angelo smiles knowingly, scoops the Pot, & says nowt. I'm still not sure he had them, & I can't make that Pass, either.

He's no fool, Angelo. Luckily we know that Daughter Maria would have been at it.

Is this a wind up?

Nope, it's true, & it happened last week at dtd.

The thing was, he instapassed! No acting, no dwelling. "It's Angelo, he HAS to have quads".

I know the two individuals well. Latif would never chip dump to Angelo.

An amazing Pass by any standards. Latif was 100% certain that Angelo had Quads.

And Angelo never showed......

So did he have the Quads Chili? Surely your dad tells you the truth

[MKKfish]

I am not sure whats worse, the raise of 5BB with KQ, the re-raised to 60BB with 84 or the call of 55BB with KQ.

All i know is i want to play for as much money as possible vs either player.

You are, of course, joking...

[MANTIS01]

Obviously, Anthony hits - in fact, his 8-4 houses up - & Dino is out. Now, Dino ain't too happy about this - "8-4, 8-4?" he keeps chuntering to all & sundry, & one can see his point.

I'm afraid I don't see his point at all. When I see this happen I always find it a really bizarre aspect of human nature. The decision to call all-in and gamble is a decision entirely in the hands of the player. He chooses to gamble...he could loose...he looses. The other player has no bearing on the outcome once his chips have crossed the line and intimating that the other player is in some way to blame is senseless. The bb correctly sensed weakness and pushed. Sensing weakness and calling all-in is a different matter entirely. Once your chips cross the line you are flirting with an early exit, unless you have the nuts of course, and K high isn't the nuts.

[Chili]

Chili has poker in her genes - you all know about Uncle Peter, & Uncle Kim - he a stonking cash player - but Dad Angelo has some game too.

At dtd last week, I saw this amazing hand.

Local shrewdie Latif, & Angelo, Maria's Dad  - who's known as Lord Rock of Rockville, tangle.

Latif bets £60 on the turn of this Board.....

 

Angelo re-pops it to £200.

Latif instantly Passes. And turns over A-A-x-x for Aces full.

The Table is agog - "WHAT?" we all say.

Latif says "don't worry, it's an absolute certainty, Angelo has Quad Tens".

Angelo smiles knowingly, scoops the Pot, & says nowt. I'm still not sure he had them, & I can't make that Pass, either.

He's no fool, Angelo. Luckily we know that Daughter Maria would have been at it.

Is this a wind up?

Nope, it's true, & it happened last week at dtd.

The thing was, he instapassed! No acting, no dwelling. "It's Angelo, he HAS to have quads".

I know the two individuals well. Latif would never chip dump to Angelo.

An amazing Pass by any standards. Latif was 100% certain that Angelo had Quads.

And Angelo never showed......

So did he have the Quads Chili? Surely your dad tells you the truth

I did speak to my dad about this hand and amazingly he DID have quad 10's!!  Its an absolutely sik pass and one I could surely never make...Even if you suspect someone MIGHT have quads, I would pay them off with top house every single time.

Don't forget this is Omaha not hold em so a higher chance of hitting quads but still......My Dad was a little annoyed about the pass to say the least but thats what prejudices do, sometimes it goes against you - he has the ultimate rock image and often exploits it just as I more often than you would believe, get given too much respect for hands because I am a girl!!

[tikay]

Obviously, Anthony hits - in fact, his 8-4 houses up - & Dino is out. Now, Dino ain't too happy about this - "8-4, 8-4?" he keeps chuntering to all & sundry, & one can see his point.

I'm afraid I don't see his point at all. When I see this happen I always find it a really bizarre aspect of human nature. The decision to call all-in and gamble is a decision entirely in the hands of the player. He chooses to gamble...he could loose...he looses. The other player has no bearing on the outcome once his chips have crossed the line and intimating that the other player is in some way to blame is senseless. The bb correctly sensed weakness and pushed. Sensing weakness and calling all-in is a different matter entirely. Once your chips cross the line you are flirting with an early exit, unless you have the nuts of course, and K high isn't the nuts.

I agree with all that, & as I said in the Post it's a clear Pass. But I do see his "point", & so do you. We both disagree strongly with "his point" too - but you have to see peoples point to understand where they are coming from. That's not to say I or we agree with his point!

It was a shocking call, in my opinion. I can see why he was chuntering though. And he was wrong to chunter, as he bought it upon himself.

[MANTIS01]

lol. No, I entirely agree it's a chunter moment Tikay. Just that when you call all-in here and loose the chuntering needs to be directed skywards instead of in the direction of the player. If 8-4 man called an all-in by K-Q man and won then K-Q man can now chunter at said player legitimately.