Vegas & The Aftermath - Diary

[tikay]

lol. No, I entirely agree it's a chunter moment Tikay. Just that when you call all-in here and loose the chuntering needs to be directed skywards instead of in the direction of the player. If 8-4 man called an all-in by K-Q man and won then K-Q man can now chunter at said player legitimately.

Precisely - that was my (badly-put) point.

[Ironside]

because I am a girl!!

since when?

[M3boy]

lol. No, I entirely agree it's a chunter moment Tikay. Just that when you call all-in here and loose the chuntering needs to be directed skywards instead of in the direction of the player. If 8-4 man called an all-in by K-Q man and won then K-Q man can now chunter at said player legitimately.

Precisely - that was my (badly-put) point.

Glad Im not the only one TK

We both know what we mean when we post though - its everyone else that doesnt understand properly

[Dingdell]

Before it became a Tourist haven, I spent many holidays in The Gambia, in West Africa. These days hundreds of thousands of European Tourists take their holidays there every year, & I've not been back since about 1990. It's a poor country, but it gets plenty of Western Aid, & although AIDS is rife, they are on the case, & Tourism helps the economy, & the locals.

Not so, if you head some 500 miles south, still on the West Coast, across Senegal, Guinea-Bissau, & Guinea, where sits Sierra Leonne, officially bottom - 177th out of 177 - in the United Nations Human Developepment Index. Previously part of the British Empire, it gained Independence in 1961.

I read today in "The Independent" that.....

Child Mortality, in under 5's, per 1,000 births, is 282. 28%! Can you imagine that? In Europe, that figure is about 4 - or 0.4%. Put another way, it's seventy times worse in Sierra Leonne than in Europe.

Female life expectancy, (Europe averages 84 years) in Sierra Leonne is 42, similar to neighbouring Equatorial Guinea, Libreria, Angola, Niger, Mali & Somalia.

Sierra Leonne has a population of 5 million. During their recnt Civil War, most of the Medical Staff fled. Today, the entire State of Sierrra Leonne has to make do with just 10 Surgeons.

Sierra Leonne is about 6 hours away from the UK by air.

It does not bear thinking about. And that, I suppose, is why we don't.

Ironic that this post was completely ignored and not commented on.

I am loving the fact that some players in the US are now donating a percentage of their winnings to charity every month - I think it's between 1% and 5%.

I realise that it's tax deductible over there and they need as much tax help as they can with their revenue structure but I still think it's a good idea. Ony a few players over here do it to my knowledge. I'm not saying it has to be vocal and a 'look at me I'm donating to charity' thing but I wondered if there was a similar collective scheme over here or is it just up to the individual?

Obviously any scheme has to be transparent.   

[M3boy]

Tracey

When you win, make a donation - simple really

[marcro]

Before it became a Tourist haven, I spent many holidays in The Gambia, in West Africa. These days hundreds of thousands of European Tourists take their holidays there every year, & I've not been back since about 1990. It's a poor country, but it gets plenty of Western Aid, & although AIDS is rife, they are on the case, & Tourism helps the economy, & the locals.

Not so, if you head some 500 miles south, still on the West Coast, across Senegal, Guinea-Bissau, & Guinea, where sits Sierra Leonne, officially bottom - 177th out of 177 - in the United Nations Human Developepment Index. Previously part of the British Empire, it gained Independence in 1961.

I read today in "The Independent" that.....

Child Mortality, in under 5's, per 1,000 births, is 282. 28%! Can you imagine that? In Europe, that figure is about 4 - or 0.4%. Put another way, it's seventy times worse in Sierra Leonne than in Europe.

Female life expectancy, (Europe averages 84 years) in Sierra Leonne is 42, similar to neighbouring Equatorial Guinea, Libreria, Angola, Niger, Mali & Somalia.

Sierra Leonne has a population of 5 million. During their recnt Civil War, most of the Medical Staff fled. Today, the entire State of Sierrra Leonne has to make do with just 10 Surgeons.

Sierra Leonne is about 6 hours away from the UK by air.

It does not bear thinking about. And that, I suppose, is why we don't.

Ironic that this post was completely ignored and not commented on.

I am loving the fact that some players in the US are now donating a percentage of their winnings to charity every month - I think it's between 1% and 5%.

I realise that it's tax deductible over there and they need as much tax help as they can with their revenue structure but I still think it's a good idea. Ony a few players over here do it to my knowledge. I'm not saying it has to be vocal and a 'look at me I'm donating to charity' thing but I wondered if there was a similar collective scheme over here or is it just up to the individual?

Obviously any scheme has to be transparent.   

It is tax deductable over there because they pay tax on their poker winnings whereas if we win over here it is tax free.  I agree that charity donations are a personal thing and do not need to be advertised.  One cant but help get the feeling that some of the US poker players do this mainly as a PR exercise.

[Dingdell]

Before it became a Tourist haven, I spent many holidays in The Gambia, in West Africa. These days hundreds of thousands of European Tourists take their holidays there every year, & I've not been back since about 1990. It's a poor country, but it gets plenty of Western Aid, & although AIDS is rife, they are on the case, & Tourism helps the economy, & the locals.

Not so, if you head some 500 miles south, still on the West Coast, across Senegal, Guinea-Bissau, & Guinea, where sits Sierra Leonne, officially bottom - 177th out of 177 - in the United Nations Human Developepment Index. Previously part of the British Empire, it gained Independence in 1961.

I read today in "The Independent" that.....

Child Mortality, in under 5's, per 1,000 births, is 282. 28%! Can you imagine that? In Europe, that figure is about 4 - or 0.4%. Put another way, it's seventy times worse in Sierra Leonne than in Europe.

Female life expectancy, (Europe averages 84 years) in Sierra Leonne is 42, similar to neighbouring Equatorial Guinea, Libreria, Angola, Niger, Mali & Somalia.

Sierra Leonne has a population of 5 million. During their recnt Civil War, most of the Medical Staff fled. Today, the entire State of Sierrra Leonne has to make do with just 10 Surgeons.

Sierra Leonne is about 6 hours away from the UK by air.

It does not bear thinking about. And that, I suppose, is why we don't.

Ironic that this post was completely ignored and not commented on.

I am loving the fact that some players in the US are now donating a percentage of their winnings to charity every month - I think it's between 1% and 5%.

I realise that it's tax deductible over there and they need as much tax help as they can with their revenue structure but I still think it's a good idea. Ony a few players over here do it to my knowledge. I'm not saying it has to be vocal and a 'look at me I'm donating to charity' thing but I wondered if there was a similar collective scheme over here or is it just up to the individual?

Obviously any scheme has to be transparent.   

It is tax deductable over there because they pay tax on their poker winnings whereas if we win over here it is tax free.  I agree that charity donations are a personal thing and do not need to be advertised.  One cant but help get the feeling that some of the US poker players do this mainly as a PR exercise.

Whatever the reason I don't mind if it's going to a 'good' charity. If their donation brings awareness (and at the same time boosts their ego) so be it. The tourney organised by one of the female players at the WSOP was for charity if I remember rightly. Everyone got a feel good factor for entering and a charitale cause benefited.

[taximan007]

Before it became a Tourist haven, I spent many holidays in The Gambia, in West Africa. These days hundreds of thousands of European Tourists take their holidays there every year, & I've not been back since about 1990. It's a poor country, but it gets plenty of Western Aid, & although AIDS is rife, they are on the case, & Tourism helps the economy, & the locals.

Not so, if you head some 500 miles south, still on the West Coast, across Senegal, Guinea-Bissau, & Guinea, where sits Sierra Leonne, officially bottom - 177th out of 177 - in the United Nations Human Developepment Index. Previously part of the British Empire, it gained Independence in 1961.

I read today in "The Independent" that.....

Child Mortality, in under 5's, per 1,000 births, is 282. 28%! Can you imagine that? In Europe, that figure is about 4 - or 0.4%. Put another way, it's seventy times worse in Sierra Leonne than in Europe.

Female life expectancy, (Europe averages 84 years) in Sierra Leonne is 42, similar to neighbouring Equatorial Guinea, Libreria, Angola, Niger, Mali & Somalia.

Sierra Leonne has a population of 5 million. During their recnt Civil War, most of the Medical Staff fled. Today, the entire State of Sierrra Leonne has to make do with just 10 Surgeons.

Sierra Leonne is about 6 hours away from the UK by air.

It does not bear thinking about. And that, I suppose, is why we don't.

Ironic that this post was completely ignored and not commented on.

I am loving the fact that some players in the US are now donating a percentage of their winnings to charity every month - I think it's between 1% and 5%.

I realise that it's tax deductible over there and they need as much tax help as they can with their revenue structure but I still think it's a good idea. Ony a few players over here do it to my knowledge. I'm not saying it has to be vocal and a 'look at me I'm donating to charity' thing but I wondered if there was a similar collective scheme over here or is it just up to the individual?

Obviously any scheme has to be transparent.   

It is tax deductable over there because they pay tax on their poker winnings whereas if we win over here it is tax free.  I agree that charity donations are a personal thing and do not need to be advertised.  One cant but help get the feeling that some of the US poker players do this mainly as a PR exercise.

Whatever the reason I don't mind if it's going to a 'good' charity. If their donation brings awareness (and at the same time boosts their ego) so be it. The tourney organised by one of the female players at the WSOP was for charity if I remember rightly. Everyone got a feel good factor for entering and a charitale cause benefited.

 

[77dave]

Whats it like to be beside the seaside??

[tikay]

My Post about the horrific situation in Sierra Leonne has aroused a little bit of interest, though not as much as I'd hoped. I find it extraordinary that in a Country just 6 hours from the UK by Air - & a current holiday resort for many - those hideous infant mortality rates & short-lifespan for females seems not to be of higher profile generally, especially in the mainstream Media.

The McCann story - whatever your take on it - is mostly about raising the profile of the child's disappearance, in the hope that someone knows something & because of the mass publicity, the child is found, &, potentially, it's life saved. As such, the McCanns have been on the front page of the Red Tops over FOUR HUNDRED TIMES in the last 6 months. Never news, just speculation, too. If the plan works, a single life may be saved.

Now, if that amount of coverage was given to the Sierra Leonne Infant Mortality disaster - ONE IN FIVE die before the age of 5 - can you just imagine how many hundreds of kids lives could have been saved, thanks to International awareness, & the resultant financial & medical aid? £5 million or £10 million would go a very long way out there, which sum being a mere pittance to any developed Nation, (or the US of A) or indeed the EC. $Trillions are being pissed away in Iraq & Afghanastan, one tenth of one per cent of that diverted to help Africa would at least mean the money was not wasted. It's an odd world we live in.

As to "poker charity" in the UK, well, it's rather sad that we don't have, & have never had, a proper, organised, poker charity. Maybe, one day. But that does not mean we can't all do our own thing.

[taximan007]

My Post about the horrific situation in Sierra Leonne has aroused a little bit of interest, though not as much as I'd hoped. I find it extraordinary that in a Country just 6 hours from the UK by Air - & a current holiday resort for many - those hideous infant mortality rates & short-lifespan for females seems not to be of higher profile generally, especially in the mainstream Media.

The McCann story - whatever your take on it - is mostly about raising the profile of the child's disappearance, in the hope that someone knows something & because of the mass publicity, the child is found, &, potentially, it's life saved. As such, the McCanns have been on the front page of the Red Tops over FOUR HUNDRED TIMES in the last 6 months. Never news, just speculation, too. If the plan works, a single life may be saved.

Now, if that amount of coverage was given to the Sierra Leonne Infant Mortality disaster - ONE IN FIVE die before the age of 5 - can you just imagine how many hundreds of kids lives could have been saved, thanks to International awareness, & the resultant financial & medical aid? £5 million or £10 million would go a very long way out there, which sum being a mere pittance to any developed Nation, (or the US of A) or indeed the EC. $Trillions are being pissed away in Iraq & Afghanastan, one tenth of one per cent of that diverted to help Africa would at least mean the money was not wasted. It's an odd world we live in.

As to "poker charity" in the UK, well, it's rather sad that we don't have, & have never had, a proper, organised, poker charity. Maybe, one day. But that does not mean we can't all do our own thing.

I think it is quite often the case that unless these stories are told to "us" by the television, or there is a National fundraising event, it is all to easy for people to ignore the fact that this kind of thing exists in the 21st Century.

Also there is the problem/question of "where does the money really go" ? There is so much corruption in the Third World countries, at the Highest level that I know for a fact it deters some people from giving. (They have a point).

I'm not going into the details of my reason for being in the Philippines, suffice to say that back in 2006 I decided I wanted to try and do something in whatever way I could to help with the problems I had read about here. So I sold my Taxi, and have hopefully managed to fulfill whatever dream it was I had, my "goal" is now operational and I am one very happy, albeit now very poor person. But to see  smiles on peoples faces is worth more to me than money in my bank account.

The other thing I have learned since being here is how easy it is to live with so little in the way of material things.

[boldie]

My Post about the horrific situation in Sierra Leonne has aroused a little bit of interest, though not as much as I'd hoped. I find it extraordinary that in a Country just 6 hours from the UK by Air - & a current holiday resort for many - those hideous infant mortality rates & short-lifespan for females seems not to be of higher profile generally, especially in the mainstream Media.

if it was on the news daily do you think people would still watch/care?..Do you still actively cringe when you hear what's going on in Iraq? Does it really still bother you when you hear about how crooked Blair and his cronies in the government here were? How about the situation in Darfur, does that still really get your goat?

My point is ..people don't give a crap about something that doesn't directly affect them. They know it all and they can click all the bad away. They get more upset about floods in Gloucestershire simply because those people look more like them. The thought of not getting a Wii for Christmas or not being able to buy-in to the next tournament pisses more people off than the situation in a country they don't know anything about, with people who don't look like them.

It is the way of the world..people are selfish, cruel and greedy.. I'm surprised not everybody has figured that one out yet.

[taximan007]

 

[byronkincaid]

There is probably an endless list of sick, horrific things happening in the world every day.

I saw the president of Chad on TV saying how these "Aid workers" were stealing children from poverty stricken parents to sell them to paedophiles and people who need organ transplants. Even if that's not true how sick is it that there are people with such little food that they give their kids away to people in the hope they'll be able to give them a better life.

http://news.independent.co.uk/europe/article3286819.ece

Child slavery is meant to be huge in Africa, 10 year old wants to help out his family by earning some cash, goes to a mine and asks for a job. They say yeah no worries you just need to have some tools, you got any? No well don't worry we'll rent them to you. Kid ends up giving all his wages back to them to pay for his tools.

Or how about the teenage girls in east europe who are offered jobs in another country only to be forced into prostitution and raped 15 times a day for God knows how many years.

Honour Killing, some dude says he saw your daughter holding some boy's hand, you're expected to kill her, if not don't worry her uncle or brother will sort it. 5000 women a year according to Wiki. 2 women a day in Iraq alone.

Missionaries in Africa telling people with Aids not to use condoms.

People go missing all the time, how many of them end up in some sick fuck's basement.

So many sick things, what can we do? Giving money to charity doesn't seem to be helping that much does it.

[tikay]

There is probably an endless list of sick, horrific things happening in the world every day.

I saw the president of Chad on TV saying how these "Aid workers" were stealing children from poverty stricken parents to sell them to paedophiles and people who need organ transplants. Even if that's not true how sick is it that there are people with such little food that they give their kids away to people in the hope they'll be able to give them a better life.

http://news.independent.co.uk/europe/article3286819.ece

Child slavery is meant to be huge in Africa, 10 year old wants to help out his family by earning some cash, goes to a mine and asks for a job. They say yeah no worries you just need to have some tools, you got any? No well don't worry we'll rent them to you. Kid ends up giving all his wages back to them to pay for his tools.

Or how about the teenage girls in east europe who are offered jobs in another country only to be forced into prostitution and raped 15 times a day for God knows how many years.

Honour Killing, some dude says he saw your daughter holding some boy's hand, you're expected to kill her, if not don't worry her uncle or brother will sort it. 5000 women a year according to Wiki. 2 women a day in Iraq alone.

Missionaries in Africa telling people with Aids not to use condoms.

People go missing all the time, how many of them end up in some sick fuck's basement.

So many sick things, what can we do? Giving money to charity doesn't seem to be helping that much does it.

A wonderful & very moving Post.

Tomorrow's Red-Top Headlines are expected to be "McCann's tell of their heartbreak Christmas". The British Newspaper industry is dying due to it's own stupidity & myopia. The sooner the better. Give us the facts, that's called "news", & leave us to work out what it means.

At least The Independent is trying to raise awareness of the situation in Africa.