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Re: Vegas & The Aftermath - Diary
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December 12, 2008, 03:30:05 PM »
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No blame was, or should, be attached to the makers of "LighterLife", she just overdosed on water.
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counsellors told BBC researchers that it was "not possible" to drink too much water.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/7339312.stm
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tikay
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Re: Vegas & The Aftermath - Diary
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Quote from: kinboshi on December 12, 2008, 03:19:28 PM
Quote from: tikay on December 12, 2008, 03:16:10 PM
Some days, I can search the newspaper & see nothing that catches my imagination. Today, they are full of great stuff.
Byron already flagged up the story of the poor lady who died from drinking too much water - 4 litres in 2 hours, I believe, & it caused her brain to swell up & killed her within hours.
She was on the increasingly popular "LighterLife" Diet Plan, which many blondes have used successfully. No blame was, or should, be attached to the makers of "LighterLife", she just overdosed on water.
But, looking at the story sideways, two thoughts struck me.
1) Who'd have thought you could die from drinking too much water? (Don't tell the Zimbabweans that). Water is such an amazing thing - it deserves a Post all of it's own. We can't live without it, but it can so easily kill us, in so many ways.
There are quite a few people who do marathons who die from hyponatremia. Usually the slower runners, who don't actually need to rehydrate as much and they effectively dilute the sodium in their body (which causes the brain swelling amongst other symptoms).
Much better to drink the sports drinks with the electrolytes
, or have a bag of crisps with your water if you're going to drink that much.
Not entirely sure I buy that, but I won't argue.
Unrelated (well, a bit related), Radio 4 did a piece today on "Vitamin-added water", the latest in-thing. Both Coca-Cola & Pepsi have purchased Vitamin Water companies (they sell Vitamin-Added Water) & are spending gillions in promoting the stuff. It retails at about £1.50 per bottle. (For WATER....).
It claims to have added vitamins, & lots of sugar - less sugar than carbonated drinks such as Pepsi or Coca-Cola, but one bottle contains 25% of your "ideal" daily sugar intake.
The Websites & advertising puff says "drink this, & you will feel revived, have increased energy. & your skin will glow radiantly". Which, of course, Radio Four said, in not so many words, was utter hogwash.
They asked representatives of both Pepsi Corp & Coca-Cola Corp to be interviewed, & these guys, like their drinks, are pretty gushy as a rule. In both cases, they declined the Interview, & Pepsi went so far as to say "we will never submit to Media Interviews on this Product". There's a thing.
Fancy peeps buying water at £1.50 a bottle on the basis it makes your skin glow radiantly. The Consumar Society is a weird & wonderful thing.
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Dingdell
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Re: Vegas & The Aftermath - Diary
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December 12, 2008, 03:31:36 PM »
Quote from: tikay on December 12, 2008, 03:30:07 PM
Quote from: kinboshi on December 12, 2008, 03:19:28 PM
Quote from: tikay on December 12, 2008, 03:16:10 PM
Some days, I can search the newspaper & see nothing that catches my imagination. Today, they are full of great stuff.
Byron already flagged up the story of the poor lady who died from drinking too much water - 4 litres in 2 hours, I believe, & it caused her brain to swell up & killed her within hours.
She was on the increasingly popular "LighterLife" Diet Plan, which many blondes have used successfully. No blame was, or should, be attached to the makers of "LighterLife", she just overdosed on water.
But, looking at the story sideways, two thoughts struck me.
1) Who'd have thought you could die from drinking too much water? (Don't tell the Zimbabweans that). Water is such an amazing thing - it deserves a Post all of it's own. We can't live without it, but it can so easily kill us, in so many ways.
There are quite a few people who do marathons who die from hyponatremia. Usually the slower runners, who don't actually need to rehydrate as much and they effectively dilute the sodium in their body (which causes the brain swelling amongst other symptoms).
Much better to drink the sports drinks with the electrolytes
, or have a bag of crisps with your water if you're going to drink that much.
Not entirely sure I buy that, but I won't argue.
Unrelated (well, a bit related), Radio 4 did a piece today on "Vitamin-added water", the latest in-thing. Both Coca-Cola & Pepsi have purchased Vitamin Water companies (they sell Vitamin-Added Water) & are spending gillions in promoting the stuff. It retails at about £1.50 per bottle. (For WATER....).
It claims to have added vitamins, & lots of sugar - less sugar than carbonated drinks such as Pepsi or Coca-Cola, but one bottle contains 25% of your "ideal" daily sugar intake.
The Websites & advertising puff says "drink this, & you will feel revived, have increased energy. & your skin will glow radiantly". Which, of course, Radio Four said, in not so many words, was utter hogwash.
They asked representatives of both Pepsi Corp & Coca-Cola Corp to be interviewed, & these guys, like their drinks, are pretty gushy as a rule. In both cases, they declined the Interview, & Pepsi went so far as to say "we will never submit to Media Interviews on this Product". There's a thing.
Fancy peeps buying water at £1.50 a bottle on the basis it makes your skin glow radiantly. The Consumar Society is a weird & wonderful thing.
A gut from MK died after last years London marathon from drinking too much water too quickly. He was a fitness instructor and should have known better.
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Re: Vegas & The Aftermath - Diary
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December 12, 2008, 03:37:44 PM »
Quote from: byronkincaid on December 12, 2008, 03:30:05 PM
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No blame was, or should, be attached to the makers of "LighterLife", she just overdosed on water.
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counsellors told BBC researchers that it was "not possible" to drink too much water.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/7339312.stm
I don't think for a moment LighterLife hold any responsibilty here. Not that I have any medical expertise in the area.
Anything - ANYTHING - to excess, can kill us.
The counsellors who spoke to the BBC were wrong, plain wrong, but they were not connected to LighterLife.
Medical evidence is quite clear on this - too much water, drunk too quickly - can kill. That's not, as I see it, LighterLife's problem.
Fascinating subject, though.
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jakally
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Re: Vegas & The Aftermath - Diary
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December 12, 2008, 03:39:45 PM »
Quote from: tikay on December 12, 2008, 03:37:44 PM
Quote from: byronkincaid on December 12, 2008, 03:30:05 PM
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No blame was, or should, be attached to the makers of "LighterLife", she just overdosed on water.
Quote
counsellors told BBC researchers that it was "not possible" to drink too much water.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/7339312.stm
I don't think for a moment LighterLife hold any responsibilty here. Not that I have any medical expertise in the area.
Anything - ANYTHING - to excess, can kill us.
The counsellors who spoke to the BBC were wrong, plain wrong, but they were not connected to LighterLife.
Medical evidence is quite clear on this - too much water, drunk too quickly - can kill. That's not, as I see it, LighterLife's problem.
Fascinating subject, though.
How much / how quickly is unsafe? (I drink lots of water and am now a bit concerned.....)
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bobby1
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Re: Vegas & The Aftermath - Diary
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December 12, 2008, 03:41:57 PM »
What a scary few post on water consumption and diets. From now on I'm gonna stick to eating rubbish and drinking beer and caffeine, at least you know where you are with these.;o)
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kinboshi
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Re: Vegas & The Aftermath - Diary
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Reply #11256 on:
December 12, 2008, 03:44:19 PM »
Quote from: jakally on December 12, 2008, 03:39:45 PM
Quote from: tikay on December 12, 2008, 03:37:44 PM
Quote from: byronkincaid on December 12, 2008, 03:30:05 PM
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No blame was, or should, be attached to the makers of "LighterLife", she just overdosed on water.
Quote
counsellors told BBC researchers that it was "not possible" to drink too much water.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/7339312.stm
I don't think for a moment LighterLife hold any responsibilty here. Not that I have any medical expertise in the area.
Anything - ANYTHING - to excess, can kill us.
The counsellors who spoke to the BBC were wrong, plain wrong, but they were not connected to LighterLife.
Medical evidence is quite clear on this - too much water, drunk too quickly - can kill. That's not, as I see it, LighterLife's problem.
Fascinating subject, though.
How much / how quickly is unsafe? (I drink lots of water and am now a bit concerned.....)
I drink at least 2 litres a day, but if you drink it over a period of time you're fine - especially if you're eating your usual diet at the same time.
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tikay
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Re: Vegas & The Aftermath - Diary
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Reply #11257 on:
December 12, 2008, 03:44:53 PM »
Quote from: jakally on December 12, 2008, 03:39:45 PM
Quote from: tikay on December 12, 2008, 03:37:44 PM
Quote from: byronkincaid on December 12, 2008, 03:30:05 PM
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No blame was, or should, be attached to the makers of "LighterLife", she just overdosed on water.
Quote
counsellors told BBC researchers that it was "not possible" to drink too much water.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/7339312.stm
I don't think for a moment LighterLife hold any responsibilty here. Not that I have any medical expertise in the area.
Anything - ANYTHING - to excess, can kill us.
The counsellors who spoke to the BBC were wrong, plain wrong, but they were not connected to LighterLife.
Medical evidence is quite clear on this - too much water, drunk too quickly - can kill. That's not, as I see it, LighterLife's problem.
Fascinating subject, though.
How much / how quickly is unsafe? (I drink lots of water and am now a bit concerned.....)
No idea - just "common-sense" I would think., Neil.
Ding might know, she's boned up in these matters.
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AndrewT
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Re: Vegas & The Aftermath - Diary
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December 12, 2008, 03:45:59 PM »
Quote from: tikay on December 12, 2008, 03:37:44 PM
Anything - ANYTHING - to excess, can kill us.
Anything can kill you - only the lethal dosage varies.
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kinboshi
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Re: Vegas & The Aftermath - Diary
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December 12, 2008, 03:46:09 PM »
Quote from: tikay on December 12, 2008, 03:30:07 PM
Quote from: kinboshi on December 12, 2008, 03:19:28 PM
Quote from: tikay on December 12, 2008, 03:16:10 PM
Some days, I can search the newspaper & see nothing that catches my imagination. Today, they are full of great stuff.
Byron already flagged up the story of the poor lady who died from drinking too much water - 4 litres in 2 hours, I believe, & it caused her brain to swell up & killed her within hours.
She was on the increasingly popular "LighterLife" Diet Plan, which many blondes have used successfully. No blame was, or should, be attached to the makers of "LighterLife", she just overdosed on water.
But, looking at the story sideways, two thoughts struck me.
1) Who'd have thought you could die from drinking too much water? (Don't tell the Zimbabweans that). Water is such an amazing thing - it deserves a Post all of it's own. We can't live without it, but it can so easily kill us, in so many ways.
There are quite a few people who do marathons who die from hyponatremia. Usually the slower runners, who don't actually need to rehydrate as much and they effectively dilute the sodium in their body (which causes the brain swelling amongst other symptoms).
Much better to drink the sports drinks with the electrolytes
, or have a bag of crisps with your water if you're going to drink that much.
Not entirely sure I buy that, but I won't argue.
Read what hyponatremia is and why the body suffers. The sports drinks contain sodium (along with other stuff), and so you avoid the effects of hyponatremia. I actually make my own sports drinks, as it's far cheaper than buying the ones in the shops.
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Re: Vegas & The Aftermath - Diary
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December 12, 2008, 03:46:20 PM »
Quote from: bobby1 on December 12, 2008, 03:41:57 PM
What a scary few post on water consumption and diets. From now on I'm gonna stick to eating rubbish and drinking beer and caffeine, at least you know where you are with these.;o)
Nice to hear from you Phil!
Are the family well, & in good heart?
Will PM you in a mo - it's important. Very.
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Re: Vegas & The Aftermath - Diary
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December 12, 2008, 03:48:08 PM »
Quote from: kinboshi on December 12, 2008, 03:44:19 PM
Quote from: jakally on December 12, 2008, 03:39:45 PM
Quote from: tikay on December 12, 2008, 03:37:44 PM
Quote from: byronkincaid on December 12, 2008, 03:30:05 PM
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No blame was, or should, be attached to the makers of "LighterLife", she just overdosed on water.
Quote
counsellors told BBC researchers that it was "not possible" to drink too much water.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/7339312.stm
I don't think for a moment LighterLife hold any responsibilty here. Not that I have any medical expertise in the area.
Anything - ANYTHING - to excess, can kill us.
The counsellors who spoke to the BBC were wrong, plain wrong, but they were not connected to LighterLife.
Medical evidence is quite clear on this - too much water, drunk too quickly - can kill. That's not, as I see it, LighterLife's problem.
Fascinating subject, though.
How much / how quickly is unsafe? (I drink lots of water and am now a bit concerned.....)
I drink at least 2 litres a day, but if you drink it over a period of time you're fine - especially if you're eating your usual diet at the same time.
I think my 'usual diet' is probably a bigger concern than the water.
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Re: Vegas & The Aftermath - Diary
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December 12, 2008, 03:53:51 PM »
Quote from: tikay on December 12, 2008, 03:46:20 PM
Quote from: bobby1 on December 12, 2008, 03:41:57 PM
What a scary few post on water consumption and diets. From now on I'm gonna stick to eating rubbish and drinking beer and caffeine, at least you know where you are with these.;o)
we are all good thanks. Thought I would drop in and catch up with some old friends.
Nice to hear from you Phil!
Are the family well, & in good heart?
Will PM you in a mo - it's important. Very.
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December 12, 2008, 03:56:09 PM »
Amazingly, Ladies & Gentleman, & thanks to Steve Kirk, I have a You Tube Video of Flushy, when he was a Pilot.
Listen to the gasps from the crowd when they realise what's happening!
http://www.flydamnit.com/2006/06/24/flying-inverted-under-bridge/
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Re: Vegas & The Aftermath - Diary
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December 12, 2008, 03:59:37 PM »
Quote from: tikay on December 12, 2008, 03:56:09 PM
Amazingly, Ladies & Gentleman, & thanks to Steve Kirk, I have a You Tube Video of Flushy, when he was a Pilot.
Listen to the gasps from the crowd when they realise what's happening!
http://www.flydamnit.com/2006/06/24/flying-inverted-under-bridge/
flushy's putting his spiderman outfit on in the cockpit?
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