Vegas & The Aftermath - Diary

[Bongo]

1) Who'd have thought you could die from drinking too much water? (Don't tell the Zimbabweans that). Water is such an amazing thing - it deserves a Post all of it's own. We can't live without it, but it can so easily kill us, in so many ways.

Leah Betts actually died from drinking too much water - which was government advice at the time for people who had taken ecstasy.

[bolt pp]

1) Who'd have thought you could die from drinking too much water? (Don't tell the Zimbabweans that). Water is such an amazing thing - it deserves a Post all of it's own. We can't live without it, but it can so easily kill us, in so many ways.

Leah Betts actually died from drinking too much water - which was government advice at the time for people who had taken ecstasy.

there was a guy in fashion, maybe a designer or something i cant remember was a couple of years ago, he over dosed on water but he used to drink silly amounts a day, i think he survived i'm not sure, i remember he was addicted to bottles of water and just used to hammer down untold a day

[bolt pp]

1) Who'd have thought you could die from drinking too much water? (Don't tell the Zimbabweans that). Water is such an amazing thing - it deserves a Post all of it's own. We can't live without it, but it can so easily kill us, in so many ways.

Leah Betts actually died from drinking too much water - which was government advice at the time for people who had taken ecstasy.

what should you drink then, orange juice?

[kinboshi]

1) Who'd have thought you could die from drinking too much water? (Don't tell the Zimbabweans that). Water is such an amazing thing - it deserves a Post all of it's own. We can't live without it, but it can so easily kill us, in so many ways.

Leah Betts actually died from drinking too much water - which was government advice at the time for people who had taken ecstasy.

what should you drink then, orange juice?

Stella.

[bolt pp]

1) Who'd have thought you could die from drinking too much water? (Don't tell the Zimbabweans that). Water is such an amazing thing - it deserves a Post all of it's own. We can't live without it, but it can so easily kill us, in so many ways.

Leah Betts actually died from drinking too much water - which was government advice at the time for people who had taken ecstasy.

what should you drink then, orange juice?

Stella.

that was a serious question btw

someone told me orange juice, vitiman C and all that

though obv stella if you dont happen to have a few cartons of um bongo with you

[kinboshi]

1) Who'd have thought you could die from drinking too much water? (Don't tell the Zimbabweans that). Water is such an amazing thing - it deserves a Post all of it's own. We can't live without it, but it can so easily kill us, in so many ways.

Leah Betts actually died from drinking too much water - which was government advice at the time for people who had taken ecstasy.

what should you drink then, orange juice?

Stella.

that was a serious question btw

someone told me orange juice, vitiman C and all that

though obv stella if you dont happen to have a few cartons of um bongo with you

If it's to avoid hyponatremia then an isotonic sports drink would do the trick I'd guess. 

[tikay]

1) Who'd have thought you could die from drinking too much water? (Don't tell the Zimbabweans that). Water is such an amazing thing - it deserves a Post all of it's own. We can't live without it, but it can so easily kill us, in so many ways.

Leah Betts actually died from drinking too much water - which was government advice at the time for people who had taken ecstasy.

That's true, but also slightly disengenous.

You know my view on drug-abuse, but even a balanced view of the Leah Betts case would conclude that it was primarily caused by Ecstasy. Had she not taken the ectsasy, she......

a) Would not have drunk all that water, in the belief it would overcome the (indirect) side effects.

b) Her bladder would have functioned properly, enabling her to pass water. The Ecstasy contributed to her inability to pass the water she drunk - to overcome the Ectasy side effects.

I'm not getting into a drugs debate, my views are set in stone.

[Jon MW]

1) Who'd have thought you could die from drinking too much water? (Don't tell the Zimbabweans that). Water is such an amazing thing - it deserves a Post all of it's own. We can't live without it, but it can so easily kill us, in so many ways.

Leah Betts actually died from drinking too much water - which was government advice at the time for people who had taken ecstasy.

what should you drink then, orange juice?

Stella.

that was a serious question btw

someone told me orange juice, vitiman C and all that

though obv stella if you dont happen to have a few cartons of um bongo with you

If it's to avoid hyponatremia then an isotonic sports drink would do the trick I'd guess. 

But generally not drinking too much water would also be a good way to avoid it.

If you need the fluid to avoid dehydration, for example, then the sports drinks will do the trick - but you don't usually need to drink enough for it to cause a problem.

[tikay]

Some days, I can search the newspaper & see nothing that catches my imagination. Today, they are full of great stuff.

Byron already flagged up the story of the poor lady who died from drinking too much water - 4 litres in 2 hours, I believe, & it caused her brain to swell up & killed her within hours.

She was on the increasingly popular "LighterLife" Diet Plan, which many blondes have used successfully. No blame was, or should, be attached to the makers of "LighterLife", she just overdosed on water.

But, looking at the story sideways, two thoughts struck me.

1) Who'd have thought you could die from drinking too much water? (Don't tell the Zimbabweans that). Water is such an amazing thing - it deserves a Post all of it's own. We can't live without it, but it can so easily kill us, in so many ways.

There are quite a few people who do marathons who die from hyponatremia.  Usually the slower runners, who don't actually need to rehydrate as much and they effectively dilute the sodium in their body (which causes the brain swelling amongst other symptoms).  Much better to drink the sports drinks with the electrolytes, or have a bag of crisps with your water if you're going to drink that much.

Not entirely sure I buy that, but I won't argue.

Read what hyponatremia is and why the body suffers.  The sports drinks contain sodium (along with other stuff), and so you avoid the effects of hyponatremia.  I actually make my own sports drinks, as it's far cheaper than buying the ones in the shops.  

I'm not going into that debate either. But if you think it works, it probably does. The mind is much more clever than we realise.

[Dingdell]

No blame was, or should, be attached to the makers of "LighterLife", she just overdosed on water.

counsellors told BBC researchers that it was "not possible" to drink too much water.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/7339312.stm

I don't think for a moment LighterLife hold any responsibilty here. Not that I have any medical expertise in the area.

Anything - ANYTHING - to excess, can kill us.

The counsellors who spoke to the BBC were wrong, plain wrong, but they were not connected to LighterLife.

Medical evidence is quite clear on this - too much water, drunk too quickly - can kill. That's not, as I see it, LighterLife's problem.
Fascinating subject, though.

How much / how quickly is unsafe? (I drink lots of water and am now a bit concerned.....)

No idea - just "common-sense" I would think., Neil.

Ding might know, she's boned up in these matters.

No more than half a large glass per half hour imo when just doing 'normal activities'.

[Dingdell]

Very few things are good for you when taken to excess except health and happiness.

[tikay]

Very few things are good for you when taken to excess except health and happiness.

Very true. Nobody ever died of smiling too much.

[gatso]

b) Her bladder would have functioned properly, enabling her to pass water. The Ecstasy contributed to her inability to pass the water she drunk - to overcome the Ectasy side effects.

wasn't it water retention in the brain that killed her rather than anything to do with the bladder?

not that that changes your point, it was the drug in combination with duff government advice that killed her, neither in isolation was likely to do it. a most unfortunate case really, take a drug that on it's own is generally considered safe, combine it with an amount of water that on it's own won't kill and you have a deadly combination.

[byronkincaid]

Some days, I can search the newspaper & see nothing that catches my imagination. Today, they are full of great stuff.

Byron already flagged up the story of the poor lady who died from drinking too much water - 4 litres in 2 hours, I believe, & it caused her brain to swell up & killed her within hours.

She was on the increasingly popular "LighterLife" Diet Plan, which many blondes have used successfully. No blame was, or should, be attached to the makers of "LighterLife", she just overdosed on water.

But, looking at the story sideways, two thoughts struck me.

1) Who'd have thought you could die from drinking too much water? (Don't tell the Zimbabweans that). Water is such an amazing thing - it deserves a Post all of it's own. We can't live without it, but it can so easily kill us, in so many ways.

There are quite a few people who do marathons who die from hyponatremia.  Usually the slower runners, who don't actually need to rehydrate as much and they effectively dilute the sodium in their body (which causes the brain swelling amongst other symptoms).  Much better to drink the sports drinks with the electrolytes, or have a bag of crisps with your water if you're going to drink that much.

Not entirely sure I buy that, but I won't argue.

Read what hyponatremia is and why the body suffers.  The sports drinks contain sodium (along with other stuff), and so you avoid the effects of hyponatremia.  I actually make my own sports drinks, as it's far cheaper than buying the ones in the shops.  

I'm not going into that debate either. But if you think it works, it probably does. The mind is much more clever than we realise.

.....water is secondary and passive to salt concentration and maintenance. Water just follows salt wherever it goes in your body (generally speaking) and everything is maintained from a relative salt concentration... physiologically speaking... I can drink 4L of water, but if I am consuming 5g of salt a day, my body will not think this is enough and adjust accordingly... likewise I can drink 4L of water a day and only consume 500mg of salt and my body will excrete excess water. If my salt stays constant and my water fluctuation changes, my body will retain more water when I need it, and excrete more when I don't...just to keep the relative salt concentration right... so it's really not about water, it's about salt...body is a lot smarter than we give it credit for....

AZK

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/85/health-fitness/how-much-water-would-one-have-drink-outweight-diuretic-effect-caffeine-192673/

[kinboshi]

Some days, I can search the newspaper & see nothing that catches my imagination. Today, they are full of great stuff.

Byron already flagged up the story of the poor lady who died from drinking too much water - 4 litres in 2 hours, I believe, & it caused her brain to swell up & killed her within hours.

She was on the increasingly popular "LighterLife" Diet Plan, which many blondes have used successfully. No blame was, or should, be attached to the makers of "LighterLife", she just overdosed on water.

But, looking at the story sideways, two thoughts struck me.

1) Who'd have thought you could die from drinking too much water? (Don't tell the Zimbabweans that). Water is such an amazing thing - it deserves a Post all of it's own. We can't live without it, but it can so easily kill us, in so many ways.

There are quite a few people who do marathons who die from hyponatremia.  Usually the slower runners, who don't actually need to rehydrate as much and they effectively dilute the sodium in their body (which causes the brain swelling amongst other symptoms).  Much better to drink the sports drinks with the electrolytes, or have a bag of crisps with your water if you're going to drink that much.

Not entirely sure I buy that, but I won't argue.

Read what hyponatremia is and why the body suffers.  The sports drinks contain sodium (along with other stuff), and so you avoid the effects of hyponatremia.  I actually make my own sports drinks, as it's far cheaper than buying the ones in the shops.  

I'm not going into that debate either. But if you think it works, it probably does. The mind is much more clever than we realise.

Eh?  It matters not what you think or I think, it's scientific fact.  

If you want to read more:

http://health.howstuffworks.com/question565.htm

http://www.merck.com/pubs/mmanual_ha/sec3/ch18/ch18d.html