that old smoking thing again PLEASE VOTE. It's be nice to get Circa 500 votes

[AdamM]

I just realised that there is a distinction to be made here:

1) I am all for non-smoking card rooms.

2) I am all against a _ban_ on smoking in card rooms.

The two aren't mutually exclusive.

I'm sure it'll be crystal clear when you explain it but I'm missing te distinction

[Robert HM]

Ask the French, they had a revolution based on liberty

[snoopy1239]

I have never actually played at the Gala Notts but have observed and found it very smoky - can't imagine what my throat and lungs would feel like in the morning if I actually played and sat through hours of it. I am an ex-smoker and the more non-smoking places turning up the better but its a very selfish view as this means less temptation for me to scab a fag and start again. When we smoke we develop nicotine receptors in our brain and these add to the cravings we suffer when being deprived of a cigarette. Basically our body thinks it needs nicotine because of the receptors and triggers off cravings and hence thoughts of cigarettes. Over time of not smoking we manage to deal with cravings and the feelings subside - however the receptors never go! Therefore once a smoker always a smoker and it takes just one cigarette to wake these receptors again and you're back to £packs/day again.

Bring on the non-smoking tables - but provide designated smoking areas, better ventilation........personally a bigger card room at the Gala or a new casino offering these facilities.

Aria   

 

[Royal Flush]

Ask the French, they had a revolution based on liberty

lol

[jammer]

I just realised that there is a distinction to be made here:

1) I am all for non-smoking card rooms.

2) I am all against a _ban_ on smoking in card rooms.

The two aren't mutually exclusive.

I'm sure it'll be crystal clear when you explain it but I'm missing te distinction

Well its simple really: I think there should be non-smoking card rooms (for people like you and I can happily plan in.)

However I also think an overarching ban government ban on smoking in all card rooms is imposing a selfish personal desire on the whole population. Hence there should also be some card rooms where the addicted can happily play and puff away in comfort (which are obviously to be avoided if you take responsibility for your health).

As such I think my personal standpoint is that I would promote smoking areas (such as walsall), better ventilation and encourage as many non-smoking cardrooms as possible, without stomping my feet for a sweeping ban (bad strategy imo as it entrenches opinion on both sides).

Ok, so here's a suggestion for you Adam: instead of demanding a ban, how about you promote a "non-smoking night" in the card room at the gala for starters. If you think there's any merit in that, then let me know (I'll be at the gala with snoops today for the sunday afternoon freezout), and I'll offer my support.

[Robert HM]

In other words, a middle way?

Something that can't be described as "Undecided" or "I don't give a damn"

[AdamM]

certainly worth a try. when I write my letter I will still explain that my preferance would be a smoking ban but if the management feel that is not an option suggest a non smoking day each week. as Sundays there are two tourneys and it's theoretically possible to spend 14 straight hours in the card room, I'll ask that they consider making sundays non-smoking and see how it goes.

Nice to meet Jammer and Snoops sunday in Notts.

[SupaMonkey]

I haven't been to notts for ages because of the smoke. If there was a non-smoking night, i would definitely go only on that night.

[M POWER]

Hello Adam

I met you on sunday too

Regards

M

[Ironside]

in the light of recent devolpments anyone remember this thread

[lazaroonie]

recent developments ? Eh ? I didnt know there was a card room in Hemel Hempsted....

[mikkyT]

DISAGREE[/u]

[lazaroonie]

I am a puffer, of the cigar variety, but would ban smoking at the table. Just as I would ban

- drinking
- eating
- ipods
- reading comics

etc etc

you are there to play cards....

[ifm]

in the light of recent devolpments anyone remember this thread

What developments?

[mikkyT]

So, pint of john smiths, bowl of nuts, my creative zen touch (but then again you did say ipod) and a copy of poker player magazine (but then again you did say comic) should be the order of the night tonight then?