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« Reply #33075 on: February 10, 2021, 05:18:53 PM »

In America, biscuits and gravy is actually cake and custard.

Don't even get me started on grits.
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« Reply #33076 on: February 10, 2021, 05:36:03 PM »

America does have some great foods though. Short stack with maple syrup, Canadian sausage, creamed mash from the KFC, pastrami, bear claws...

God I'm hungry.
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« Reply #33077 on: February 10, 2021, 05:40:32 PM »

Oh and those sweet sticky roasted nuts that they sell on street corners...
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« Reply #33078 on: February 10, 2021, 06:27:36 PM »

Buttermilk waffles and crispy bacon for me. Drooling at the thought of it.
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« Reply #33079 on: February 10, 2021, 07:00:32 PM »

https://www.bsuh.nhs.uk/maternity/our-services/specialist-support/gender-inclusion/

The wording seems to be optional even there.

Developing an infant feeding plan, which may include breast/chestfeeding or expressing milk

They just seem to be giving their trans parents choices in how they describe themselves and their bodies.

Piers Morgan and the Daily Mail can stand down.

Literally no need for new descriptors for people, bodies or bodily functions. Several thousand years have provided plenty of choice to get by for now irrespective of whether someone wants to be acknowledged and addressed as a man or woman.
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« Reply #33080 on: February 10, 2021, 08:35:45 PM »

https://www.bsuh.nhs.uk/maternity/our-services/specialist-support/gender-inclusion/

The wording seems to be optional even there.

Developing an infant feeding plan, which may include breast/chestfeeding or expressing milk

They just seem to be giving their trans parents choices in how they describe themselves and their bodies.

Piers Morgan and the Daily Mail can stand down.

Literally no need for new descriptors for people, bodies or bodily functions. Several thousand years have provided plenty of choice to get by for now irrespective of whether someone wants to be acknowledged and addressed as a man or woman.

I hadn't heard of it myself until yesterday, and it seems to specifically apply to trans men who have had their breasts removed, but still go on to have babies.  If a proportion of that tiny group of people want to describe what they do as chestfeeding it seems OK to me, and seems more accurate than breast feeding. 

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2016/08/chestfeeding/497015/

Women, who don't have the op, can still describe what they do as breast feeding or whatever else they choose to call it. 

FWIW Given these transgender ops have only been around for 50 odd years then we haven't had much time to get a better word for what they do. 
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« Reply #33081 on: February 10, 2021, 10:07:55 PM »


Currently available on Netflix. Worth a watch.

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« Reply #33082 on: February 10, 2021, 10:22:09 PM »

I'm currently glued to the Trump impeachment trial on CNN
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« Reply #33083 on: February 10, 2021, 10:22:58 PM »

Loads of footage I've never seen before.
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« Reply #33084 on: February 10, 2021, 10:30:39 PM »

The CNN coverage while the trial is in recess is extremely partisan and typically OTT American though.
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« Reply #33085 on: February 10, 2021, 11:50:47 PM »

Court TV Channel 179 is a better place to watch.
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« Reply #33086 on: February 11, 2021, 09:21:34 AM »

https://www.bsuh.nhs.uk/maternity/our-services/specialist-support/gender-inclusion/

The wording seems to be optional even there.

Developing an infant feeding plan, which may include breast/chestfeeding or expressing milk

They just seem to be giving their trans parents choices in how they describe themselves and their bodies.

Piers Morgan and the Daily Mail can stand down.

Literally no need for new descriptors for people, bodies or bodily functions. Several thousand years have provided plenty of choice to get by for now irrespective of whether someone wants to be acknowledged and addressed as a man or woman.

I hadn't heard of it myself until yesterday, and it seems to specifically apply to trans men who have had their breasts removed, but still go on to have babies.  If a proportion of that tiny group of people want to describe what they do as chestfeeding it seems OK to me, and seems more accurate than breast feeding. 

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2016/08/chestfeeding/497015/

Women, who don't have the op, can still describe what they do as breast feeding or whatever else they choose to call it. 

FWIW Given these transgender ops have only been around for 50 odd years then we haven't had much time to get a better word for what they do. 

My only minor points are really that
a) They may have had some tissue removed but they are still breasts
b) doubt there is any groundswell of transmen demanding a new term. Some other group of, i need to say idiots, sit around dreaming up new ways that a trans person might be offended and put that in front of them as another micro aggression they need to be aware of. Its constantly accentuating difference unneccessarily i think.

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« Reply #33087 on: February 11, 2021, 10:20:10 AM »

https://www.bsuh.nhs.uk/maternity/our-services/specialist-support/gender-inclusion/

The wording seems to be optional even there.

Developing an infant feeding plan, which may include breast/chestfeeding or expressing milk

They just seem to be giving their trans parents choices in how they describe themselves and their bodies.

Piers Morgan and the Daily Mail can stand down.

Literally no need for new descriptors for people, bodies or bodily functions. Several thousand years have provided plenty of choice to get by for now irrespective of whether someone wants to be acknowledged and addressed as a man or woman.

I hadn't heard of it myself until yesterday, and it seems to specifically apply to trans men who have had their breasts removed, but still go on to have babies.  If a proportion of that tiny group of people want to describe what they do as chestfeeding it seems OK to me, and seems more accurate than breast feeding. 

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2016/08/chestfeeding/497015/

Women, who don't have the op, can still describe what they do as breast feeding or whatever else they choose to call it. 

FWIW Given these transgender ops have only been around for 50 odd years then we haven't had much time to get a better word for what they do. 

My only minor points are really that
a) They may have had some tissue removed but they are still breasts
b) doubt there is any groundswell of transmen demanding a new term. Some other group of, i need to say idiots, sit around dreaming up new ways that a trans person might be offended and put that in front of them as another micro aggression they need to be aware of. Its constantly accentuating difference unneccessarily i think.



Meh, we must have 200 words for wanking.  I don't think a new word does much harm in the long run.  If you read that Atlantic piece, the word seemed to stem from how a trans man described what he was doing and not something the trans doctor had invented. 

When I was looking around this yesterday it was pretty much 100% of people had got the wrong end of the stick after the Times had completely misrepresented what was happening.  All that has happened is they are giving people options in their maternity centre and they specifically say the choice of the new language is in additon, not instead of, the old language on their website (do journalists ever do 5 minutes research these days, or do they do the research and then just print the stuff anyway?).  The other thing I noted was the same people who lose their minds over facemasks, lose their mind over chestfeeding.  Guess it was always obvious that Lozza Fox would be beating down on these people for clicks, but you also got the same from publicity hungry doctors.

Anyway moving on for from this, as I have more than said my piece, Tom is right about Maiden.  Well worth the three quid I paid.  It seemed a ballache I had to watch it on the PC rather than my TV as it wasn't smart enough.  Great story though, and always love footage from the Southern Ocean.  I think sailing must be about as dangerous as modern sport gets, the America's Cup footage is mad too.  I went on a sailing boat years ago and was expecting a lot of pottering about and didn't really appreciate just how tilted they go.   It had nothing on the footage on Maiden though.

I was pretty surprised I remembered Steinlager 2 from all that time ago, but yesterday I referred to prawn crackers as pork scratchings.  How the feck does that work? 
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« Reply #33088 on: February 11, 2021, 11:40:50 AM »

It's so difficult to chestfeed someone who's wearing a facemask.
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« Reply #33089 on: February 11, 2021, 11:50:29 AM »

Jackie Weaver quotes and memes all over the place.

Move over Chuck Norris.



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