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Re: Vagueness and the Aftermath - A sporadic diary
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".....And so, (Tank says the word "and" should never be capitalised) on to movie myths & mistakes......."
Correct - in that, as a rule of thumb, properly constructed sentences, written by posh people, should not begin with "and".
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Re: Vagueness and the Aftermath - A sporadic diary
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Quote from: tikay on October 06, 2009, 11:10:41 AM
".....And so, (Tank says the word "and" should never be capitalised) on to movie myths & mistakes......."
Correct - in that,
as a rule of thumb
, properly constructed sentences, written by posh people, should not begin with "and".
'as a rule of thumb' - you mean like 'generally speaking' - like 'usually' - but not always.
So in conclusion, sentences
can
begin with 'And'.
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Re: Vagueness and the Aftermath - A sporadic diary
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October 06, 2009, 11:20:22 AM »
Yesterday, I went in to "Sharnford Tractors" to buy some chain saw oil. While I was there, I noticed a nice ride on lawnmower that they had taken in as a part ex on a new one.
Because it is now the end of the mowing season, they had the second had one marked up at a very attractive price. I knew that I really ought to buy it as my old mower is on it's last legs, (I have to repair it every time I use it) Somehow though, I couldn't bring myself to do it.
In the end, I made a ridiculously low offer, which, much to my shock and surprise, they accepted.
Now I have a nice bright shiny mower in my shed, and the old, knackered one is outside under a tarp.
I'm sure that this is the reason I couldn't sleep last night. I feel as guilty as someone who has just left his wife for a younger woman.
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Re: Vagueness and the Aftermath - A sporadic diary
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October 06, 2009, 11:34:21 AM »
Quote from: Jon MW on October 06, 2009, 11:14:07 AM
Quote from: tikay on October 06, 2009, 11:10:41 AM
".....And so, (Tank says the word "and" should never be capitalised) on to movie myths & mistakes......."
Correct - in that,
as a rule of thumb
, properly constructed sentences, written by posh people, should not begin with "and".
'as a rule of thumb' - you mean like 'generally speaking' - like 'usually' - but not always.
So in conclusion, sentences
can
begin with 'And'.
They can begin with anything at all. That's not to say they should.
If I were an Employer, viewing a CV from a Job Applicant for a job which included written communication, & he began a sentence with "And", I'd not read any further, I'd just bin the application.
Her Majesty the Queen-Ness NEVER begins sentences with "And".
And there you have it.
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October 06, 2009, 11:37:11 AM »
Quote from: RED-DOG on October 06, 2009, 11:20:22 AM
Yesterday, I went in to "Sharnford Tractors" to buy some chain saw oil. While I was there, I noticed a nice ride on lawnmower that they had taken in as a part ex on a new one.
Because it is now the end of the mowing season, they had the second had one marked up at a very attractive price. I knew that I really ought to buy it as my old mower is on it's last legs, (I have to repair it every time I use it) Somehow though, I couldn't bring myself to do it.
In the end, I made a ridiculously low offer, which, much to my shock and surprise, they accepted.
Now I have a nice bright shiny mower in my shed, and the old, knackered one is outside under a tarp.
I'm sure that this is the reason I couldn't sleep last night. I feel as guilty as someone who has just left his wife for a younger woman.
Traitor!
I love that old mower, & the way you have to fettle it every time you use it. You caress it like a woman, you drool over it, you complain about it, but love it.
Old Faithful will now wreak some dreadful revenge upon you.
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October 06, 2009, 11:38:17 AM »
Would it be acceptable to begin like this?
.... and so, yada yada...
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October 06, 2009, 11:40:12 AM »
Quote from: tikay on October 06, 2009, 11:37:11 AM
Quote from: RED-DOG on October 06, 2009, 11:20:22 AM
Yesterday, I went in to "Sharnford Tractors" to buy some chain saw oil. While I was there, I noticed a nice ride on lawnmower that they had taken in as a part ex on a new one.
Because it is now the end of the mowing season, they had the second had one marked up at a very attractive price. I knew that I really ought to buy it as my old mower is on it's last legs, (I have to repair it every time I use it) Somehow though, I couldn't bring myself to do it.
In the end, I made a ridiculously low offer, which, much to my shock and surprise, they accepted.
Now I have a nice bright shiny mower in my shed, and the old, knackered one is outside under a tarp.
I'm sure that this is the reason I couldn't sleep last night. I feel as guilty as someone who has just left his wife for a younger woman.
Traitor!
I love that old mower, & the way you have to fettle it every time you use it. You caress it like a woman, you drool over it, you complain about it, but love it.
Old Faithful will now wreak some dreadful revenge upon you.
I know. Don't make it worse. It was just a spur of the moment thing, it meant nothing to me.
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Re: Vagueness and the Aftermath - A sporadic diary
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October 06, 2009, 11:49:14 AM »
Quote from: tikay on October 06, 2009, 11:34:21 AM
Quote from: Jon MW on October 06, 2009, 11:14:07 AM
Quote from: tikay on October 06, 2009, 11:10:41 AM
".....And so, (Tank says the word "and" should never be capitalised) on to movie myths & mistakes......."
Correct - in that,
as a rule of thumb
, properly constructed sentences, written by posh people, should not begin with "and".
'as a rule of thumb' - you mean like 'generally speaking' - like 'usually' - but not always.
So in conclusion, sentences
can
begin with 'And'.
They can begin with anything at all. That's not to say they should.
If I were an Employer, viewing a CV from a Job Applicant for a job which included written communication, & he began a sentence with "And", I'd not read any further, I'd just bin the application.
Her Majesty the Queen-Ness NEVER begins sentences with "And".
And there you have it.
That's because the Queen was taught by people who knew a lot about Latin - not so much about English.
A lot of the 'rules' of grammar that were written down when education started being for the masses, aren't actually rules of English Grammar - they're rules for Latin Grammar, it was just assumed they should be the same.
But that's not always the case.
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Re: Vagueness and the Aftermath - A sporadic diary
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October 06, 2009, 11:59:45 AM »
AND the Queen has an annus horribilis.
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Re: Vagueness and the Aftermath - A sporadic diary
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October 06, 2009, 11:59:56 AM »
Quote from: Jon MW on October 06, 2009, 11:49:14 AM
Quote from: tikay on October 06, 2009, 11:34:21 AM
Quote from: Jon MW on October 06, 2009, 11:14:07 AM
Quote from: tikay on October 06, 2009, 11:10:41 AM
".....And so, (Tank says the word "and" should never be capitalised) on to movie myths & mistakes......."
Correct - in that,
as a rule of thumb
, properly constructed sentences, written by posh people, should not begin with "and".
'as a rule of thumb' - you mean like 'generally speaking' - like 'usually' - but not always.
So in conclusion, sentences
can
begin with 'And'.
They can begin with anything at all. That's not to say they should.
If I were an Employer, viewing a CV from a Job Applicant for a job which included written communication, & he began a sentence with "And", I'd not read any further, I'd just bin the application.
Her Majesty the Queen-Ness NEVER begins sentences with "And".
And there you have it.
That's because the Queen was taught by people who knew a lot about Latin - not so much about English.
A lot of the 'rules' of grammar that were written down when education started being for the masses, aren't actually rules of English Grammar - they're rules for Latin Grammar, it was just assumed they should be the same.
But that's not always the case.
I said "as a rule of thumb".
Nothing about grammar is written (!) in stone, but there's "best practice" & "bad practice". And people are, & will be, judged by how they write, whether we like it or not.
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Re: Vagueness and the Aftermath - A sporadic diary
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Quote from: kinboshi on October 06, 2009, 11:59:45 AM
AND the Queen has an annus horribilis.
She needs to get herself down to Dingdell's clinic.
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Quote from: RED-DOG on October 06, 2009, 11:38:17 AM
Would it be acceptable to begin like this?
.... and so, yada yada...
That would be perfectly acceptable, even amongst the hoity-toity. Which includes me.
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Re: Vagueness and the Aftermath - A sporadic diary
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October 06, 2009, 12:03:21 PM »
Quote from: tikay on October 06, 2009, 12:01:41 PM
Quote from: RED-DOG on October 06, 2009, 11:38:17 AM
Would it be acceptable to begin like this?
.... and so, yada yada...
That would be perfectly acceptable, even amongst the hoity-toity. Which includes me.
Is it correct to start a sentence with 'Which' in that context?
I would have expected the correct English to use 'which' after a comma rather than a full-stop as it's a conjunction between two related clauses? I'm talking about the Queen's English of course, not just conversational English that one might use on say a poker forum.
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Quote from: RED-DOG on October 06, 2009, 11:40:12 AM
Quote from: tikay on October 06, 2009, 11:37:11 AM
Quote from: RED-DOG on October 06, 2009, 11:20:22 AM
Yesterday, I went in to "Sharnford Tractors" to buy some chain saw oil. While I was there, I noticed a nice ride on lawnmower that they had taken in as a part ex on a new one.
Because it is now the end of the mowing season, they had the second had one marked up at a very attractive price. I knew that I really ought to buy it as my old mower is on it's last legs, (I have to repair it every time I use it) Somehow though, I couldn't bring myself to do it.
In the end, I made a ridiculously low offer, which, much to my shock and surprise, they accepted.
Now I have a nice bright shiny mower in my shed, and the old, knackered one is outside under a tarp.
I'm sure that this is the reason I couldn't sleep last night. I feel as guilty as someone who has just left his wife for a younger woman.
Traitor!
I love that old mower, & the way you have to fettle it every time you use it. You caress it like a woman, you drool over it, you complain about it, but love it.
Old Faithful will now wreak some dreadful revenge upon you.
I know. Don't make it worse. It was just a spur of the moment thing, it meant nothing to me.
Two-timer. Traitor.
You going to send Old Faithful to a Retirement Home for discarded Mowers? Or just let her rust & rot away, sweating (as she will) under that tarp? And to think how well she has served you.
PS - I bet it's a "she", too.
PPS - That ended up as an expensive can of oil!
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October 06, 2009, 12:07:15 PM »
Quote from: kinboshi on October 06, 2009, 12:03:21 PM
Quote from: tikay on October 06, 2009, 12:01:41 PM
Quote from: RED-DOG on October 06, 2009, 11:38:17 AM
Would it be acceptable to begin like this?
.... and so, yada yada...
That would be perfectly acceptable, even amongst the hoity-toity. Which includes me.
Is it correct to start a sentence with 'Which' in that context?
I would have expected the correct English to use 'which' after a comma rather than a full-stop as it's a conjunction between two related clauses? I'm talking about the Queen's English of course, not just conversational English that one might use on say a poker forum.
No idea, to be honest, I have never heard, or thought, about that.
I'll give the matter some thought.
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