Vagueness and the Aftermath - A sporadic diary

[Rod Paradise]

Very sick on many counts. How did the doctors not pick up on it.

Oh EVENTUALLY they did, I should have read it right through first.

Harsh - the woman seems to have tricked everybody & did the threaten to sue trick when doctors looked like not treating the poor kid.

It must have been tough to catch.

However I realise (and am more annoyed at) the implications for someone with a really sick child, like wee Reese - so I'm glad she's been punished, thankfully the wee boy's with
another familly now & hopefully he can get past what she did.

[The_nun]

Not sure how severe illness can be hard to catch really, there are so many people involved with Reece it beggars belief how this could have come by.

[Laxie]

Amazing how much can be missed by doctors, but that aside - this story was just beyond shocking.

[david3103]

SO she gets 3yrs and the parents of the two boys who damn near killed two other weaker kids may not even be prosecuted for the years of neglect and worse that led to them being the amoral sociopaths they apparently are?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/south_yorkshire/8473978.stm

Could that be because the edlington parents weren't claiming any extra benefits?

[pokefast]

How is the mole situation Mr Red?

[RED-DOG]

SO she gets 3yrs and the parents of the two boys who damn near killed two other weaker kids may not even be prosecuted for the years of neglect and worse that led to them being the amoral sociopaths they apparently are?

I tend to agree with you, but I think the issue goes wider than that.

Society as a whole is hog tied by the nanny state. For a generation now, we have been been forced to accept bad behaviour from children and adults alike. Gone are the days when right minded people could step forward and say, "We won't allow you to act that way, now stop, or suffer the consequences"

I was outside Morrison's supermarket the other day and two kids, (perhaps 10 or 11 year olds) were running the old "Security" guy ragged. They were just using him as an object of fun, dashing past him, bumping and barging into him and shouting "Come om then you old bastard" secure in the knowledge that no one could do a thing about it.

And the truth is, we really could do nothing. Dozens of decent people looking on, powerless. A young man did grab one of the boys by the collar, and the boy immediately flung himself to the ground, writhing around in agony. The young man got scared and hurried away, and the boys continued their game.

How many times have you seen loutish behaviour (or worse) and watched everyone turn away?

It wasn't always so.

[RED-DOG]

How is the mole situation Mr Red?

Rampant.

I think they're paying protection money to Big Tone.

[pokefast]

How is the mole situation Mr Red?

Rampant.

I think they're paying protection money to Big Tone.

Go out and spade a few while he's not about!

[RED-DOG]

How is the mole situation Mr Red?

Rampant.

I think they're paying protection money to Big Tone.

Go out and spade a few while he's not about!

I dusn't. He's omnipresent.

[sovietsong]

I gave you the answer a while ago with those vibrating thing-ma-bobs! 

I noticed a sign on the way to work the other day for 'mole patrol', couldnt help but laugh!

[Karabiner]

How is the mole situation Mr Red?

Rampant.

I think they're paying protection money to Big Tone.

Go out and spade a few while he's not about!

I dusn't. He's omnipresent.

Is that like tubby ?

[Dingdell]

SO she gets 3yrs and the parents of the two boys who damn near killed two other weaker kids may not even be prosecuted for the years of neglect and worse that led to them being the amoral sociopaths they apparently are?

I tend to agree with you, but I think the issue goes wider than that.

Society as a whole is hog tied by the nanny state. For a generation now, we have been been forced to accept bad behaviour from children and adults alike. Gone are the days when right minded people could step forward and say, "We won't allow you to act that way, now stop, or suffer the consequences"

I was outside Morrison's supermarket the other day and two kids, (perhaps 10 or 11 year olds) were running the old "Security" guy ragged. They were just using him as an object of fun, dashing past him, bumping and barging into him and shouting "Come om then you old bastard" secure in the knowledge that no one could do a thing about it.

And the truth is, we really could do nothing. Dozens of decent people looking on, powerless. A young man did grab one of the boys by the collar, and the boy immediately flung himself to the ground, writhing around in agony. The young man got scared and hurried away, and the boys continued their game.

How many times have you seen loutish behaviour (or worse) and watched everyone turn away?

It wasn't always so.

I'm afraid I refuse to stand back and watch. I told some kids off at the local co-op the other night - running around - completely unattended and they did at least leave the shop. When I left I saw them with their Dad - he was standing outside the pub having a fag, before he went back in to keep drinking and the kids ran off again to create chaos elsewhere.

[ ] He sure wins parent of the year award.

[david3103]

SO she gets 3yrs and the parents of the two boys who damn near killed two other weaker kids may not even be prosecuted for the years of neglect and worse that led to them being the amoral sociopaths they apparently are?

I tend to agree with you, but I think the issue goes wider than that.

Society as a whole is hog tied by the nanny state. For a generation now, we have been been forced to accept bad behaviour from children and adults alike. Gone are the days when right minded people could step forward and say, "We won't allow you to act that way, now stop, or suffer the consequences"

I was outside Morrison's supermarket the other day and two kids, (perhaps 10 or 11 year olds) were running the old "Security" guy ragged. They were just using him as an object of fun, dashing past him, bumping and barging into him and shouting "Come om then you old bastard" secure in the knowledge that no one could do a thing about it.

And the truth is, we really could do nothing. Dozens of decent people looking on, powerless. A young man did grab one of the boys by the collar, and the boy immediately flung himself to the ground, writhing around in agony. The young man got scared and hurried away, and the boys continued their game.

How many times have you seen loutish behaviour (or worse) and watched everyone turn away?

It wasn't always so.

I'm afraid I refuse to stand back and watch. I told some kids off at the local co-op the other night - running around - completely unattended and they did at least leave the shop. When I left I saw them with their Dad - he was standing outside the pub having a fag, before he went back in to keep drinking and the kids ran off again to create chaos elsewhere.

[ ] He sure wins parent of the year award.

and that's the crux of the issue - Parental Responsibility.
From all reports the parents of the Edlington children inducted these two into a life where meaningless violence was the norm. We can point fingers at an overstretched Social Services function, and we can tut as much as we like about the fact that ordinary decent folk can't step in for fear of returbution, but ultimately, in this instance, the parents should face the consequence.

[tikay]

How is the mole situation Mr Red?

Rampant.

I think they're paying protection money to Big Tone.

Go out and spade a few while he's not about!

I dusn't. He's omnipresent.

"dusn't"? What sort of word is that?

And I'm omnipotent as well as omnipresent. I'm like a particle, me.

[typhoon13]

Mole traps are the only solution.

Other gimmicks don't work now cymags banned.

A good tip, when setting your trap always wear gloves else they will smell you and reverse.

Another good tip, sight two hills then using a cane prod about to find the run between the two hills, set your trap in the middle, go to both hills shovel soil away and  prod hole to let daylight in, then go back to your trap and with cane make small hole six inches either side of the trap to let more daylight in, you are now in a good position to start eliminating those pesky blighters. Good Luck.