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« Reply #8250 on: February 11, 2010, 02:50:19 AM »

Apparently Google was meant to be Googol but the guy who was searching the domains spelt it wrong and it stuck.
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« Reply #8251 on: February 11, 2010, 03:08:30 AM »

you're replacing a googolplex with 100, therefore you're replacing a googol with 2 as 100 is a 1 followed by 2 zeros just as a googolplex is a 1 followed by a googol zeros. googol is to googolplex as 2 is to 100

so taking the 2 facts quoted above- if the number 2 was more than the number of atoms in the known universe then you would not be able to write all the zeros in the number 100 on atoms; you need at least 2 atoms to be able to do that
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« Reply #8252 on: February 11, 2010, 04:40:45 AM »

I love big numbers, will give that program a watch tomorrow.


I bore people at parties with this stuff

Number of atoms in 12grams of carbon is around about 6 x 1023
Nunber of atoms in the observable universe is about 1080

Because 90% of the Universe is hydrogen and 9% Helium, the number of electrons in the universe isn't that much bigger than the number of atoms.

Your Googol is 10100

Number of different move sequences it's possible to have in a game of chess is 10123, even though it's only played on a board of 64 squares.
The same number, called the game tree complexity, for the game of draughts is only 1031. Since 2007, computers have now solved the game of draughts, ie worked out every possible combination so it's now theoretically impossible to beat this machine at draughts.

If every computer in the world today was switched to the task of solving the game of chess in the same way, and every citizen was given the task of building more computers to join in, the sun would likely have exploded before the job was half finished.



I was reading somewhere about the number of different move sequences possible in a game that consisted of the entire universe, and swapping two atoms constituted one move. I can't remember where I read it though Sad
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« Reply #8253 on: February 11, 2010, 07:37:18 AM »

Rather belatedly, clearly this is where all the eggs turn up
Generally they start being sold sometime after christmas.

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Just  to make it a little clearer

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« Reply #8254 on: February 11, 2010, 08:48:38 AM »

I thought google was called google rather than googol because when they were setting up they had a cheque sent to them by a main contributor which had it spelt wrong so rather than upset them they just changed the name?
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« Reply #8255 on: February 11, 2010, 09:59:48 AM »

The programme on BBC 2 the day before about mankind's association and development with fire was excellent.  Best watched in HD of course. 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00qs5l2/How_Earth_Made_Us_Fire/

Thought the infinity one was good too, but when they started on about the infinite universes where every possibility that can be imagined (an infinite number) are all happening at this exact second, otherwise it wouldn't be infinite, and all different laws of physics are infinitely possible (as it's infinite)  - sounded a bit like nonsense to me.

There was a programme on about a month ago (ish) that was about chaos theory and how it explained that a complex universe with complex organisms such as ourselves can come from a singularity and dust.  That was an excellent programme.
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« Reply #8256 on: February 11, 2010, 10:02:01 AM »


Sadly i thought this was a Buzz Lightyear documentary, never mind.
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« Reply #8257 on: February 11, 2010, 10:27:23 AM »

I love big numbers, will give that program a watch tomorrow.


I bore people at parties with this stuff

Number of atoms in 12grams of carbon is around about 6 x 1023
Nunber of atoms in the observable universe is about 1080

Because 90% of the Universe is hydrogen and 9% Helium, the number of electrons in the universe isn't that much bigger than the number of atoms.

Your Googol is 10100

Number of different move sequences it's possible to have in a game of chess is 10123, even though it's only played on a board of 64 squares.
The same number, called the game tree complexity, for the game of draughts is only 1031. Since 2007, computers have now solved the game of draughts, ie worked out every possible combination so it's now theoretically impossible to beat this machine at draughts.

If every computer in the world today was switched to the task of solving the game of chess in the same way, and every citizen was given the task of building more computers to join in, the sun would likely have exploded before the job was half finished.



I was reading somewhere about the number of different move sequences possible in a game that consisted of the entire universe, and swapping two atoms constituted one move. I can't remember where I read it though Sad


Wooo Hooo! That's the stuff Tank. It's mind boggling. I can just about grasp enough to be blown away without really understanding any of it.

I liked the infinite hotel theory.

If you had a hotel with an infinite number of rooms, and an infinite number of guests. there would always be room for another guest, but you couldn't put him in the last room, (because there is no last room) ypu have to move the person in room one into room two, the person in room two into roon three, and so on. Then you can put him into room one.

If you move all the people from the odd numbered rooms into even numbered rooms, you have just doubled your capacity.

If an infinite number of people left the next morning and you stayed, then infinity minus infinity could add up to one.

Excuse me for a moment. I have to go and strum my lips with my forefinger while saying "Wibble"
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« Reply #8258 on: February 11, 2010, 02:20:10 PM »

I love big numbers, will give that program a watch tomorrow.


I bore people at parties with this stuff

Number of atoms in 12grams of carbon is around about 6 x 1023
Nunber of atoms in the observable universe is about 1080

Because 90% of the Universe is hydrogen and 9% Helium, the number of electrons in the universe isn't that much bigger than the number of atoms.

Your Googol is 10100

Number of different move sequences it's possible to have in a game of chess is 10123, even though it's only played on a board of 64 squares.
The same number, called the game tree complexity, for the game of draughts is only 1031. Since 2007, computers have now solved the game of draughts, ie worked out every possible combination so it's now theoretically impossible to beat this machine at draughts.

If every computer in the world today was switched to the task of solving the game of chess in the same way, and every citizen was given the task of building more computers to join in, the sun would likely have exploded before the job was half finished.



I was reading somewhere about the number of different move sequences possible in a game that consisted of the entire universe, and swapping two atoms constituted one move. I can't remember where I read it though Sad


Wooo Hooo! That's the stuff Tank. It's mind boggling. I can just about grasp enough to be blown away without really understanding any of it.

I liked the infinite hotel theory.

If you had a hotel with an infinite number of rooms, and an infinite number of guests. there would always be room for another guest, but you couldn't put him in the last room, (because there is no last room) ypu have to move the person in room one into room two, the person in room two into roon three, and so on. Then you can put him into room one.

If you move all the people from the odd numbered rooms into even numbered rooms, you have just doubled your capacity.

If an infinite number of people left the next morning and you stayed, then infinity minus infinity could add up to one.

Excuse me for a moment. I have to go and strum my lips with my forefinger while saying "Wibble"

Interesting stuff.
You couldnt put him in the last room I agree, but you could put him in the one after the one occupied by the previous arrival.
A lot simpler and more efficient. All though the hotel would be spectacular I cant imagine all the guests wanting to move every time a new guest checked in?
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« Reply #8259 on: February 11, 2010, 03:42:41 PM »

Why bother to look for big ones? Smaller eggs have a better yolk/white ratio and the yolk is where the flavour is.

Also, there must be a local farm or something where you could avoid the supermarket version Tom. Fresher and freeer and also mush more supportive of the local economy.

You're right of course.

I, Tom McCready, do herby swear, that I will go forth from this place forthwith and find a source of fresh eggs. Swelp me God.
Tallis's garage (The red one opposite Big Percy's) sell eggs from their own chickens.
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« Reply #8260 on: February 11, 2010, 03:56:13 PM »

Why bother to look for big ones? Smaller eggs have a better yolk/white ratio and the yolk is where the flavour is.

Also, there must be a local farm or something where you could avoid the supermarket version Tom. Fresher and freeer and also mush more supportive of the local economy.

You're right of course.

I, Tom McCready, do herby swear, that I will go forth from this place forthwith and find a source of fresh eggs. Swelp me God.
Tallis's garage (The red one opposite Big Percy's) sell eggs from their own chickens.

If the price of their diesel and Calor gas is anything to go by, the eggs will be about £3 each.

Did you manage to get your pics downloaded?

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« Reply #8261 on: February 11, 2010, 04:02:11 PM »

Apparently, Mitch fell down the stairs last night, and the people next door thought that EastEnders had finished early.
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« Reply #8262 on: February 11, 2010, 04:07:17 PM »

Apparently, Mitch fell down the stairs last night, and the people next door thought that EastEnders had finished early.


LMAO, i shall be nicking that !!
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« Reply #8263 on: February 11, 2010, 04:15:53 PM »

Apparently, Mitch fell down the stairs last night, and the people next door thought that EastEnders had finished early.


LMAO, i shall be nicking that !!

Tom, your the only person i know, (other than Neil) that goes to a resturant, looks at the menu and says "okay!"


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« Reply #8264 on: February 11, 2010, 04:28:23 PM »

Apparently, Mitch fell down the stairs last night, and the people next door thought that EastEnders had finished early.

Comedy gold
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