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Re: Vagueness and the Aftermath - A sporadic diary
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May 04, 2011, 12:46:15 PM »
Quote from: RED-DOG on May 04, 2011, 12:32:00 PM
Quote from: Laxie on May 04, 2011, 12:13:12 PM
Quote from: RED-DOG on May 04, 2011, 12:07:51 PM
Man's brain has developed enough to allow him to appreciate the wonder of the world around him. To take pleasure in the intracity of nature, to marvel at the beauty of a a flower, a tree, a butterfly, a coastline, a mountain, a dessert, a meadow.
The ability to imagine, to be moved to laughter or tears by a piece of music, a poem, a story, a picture.
The ability to empathise. To look at someone and think, "I will help him because I can imagine what it would feel like to be in his position".
In that sense, we are hugely privileged and at the top of the cognitive evolutionary ladder.
But why does man think he can claim that title all to himself. Look at other life on the planet. They help each other out individually, they work together in groups and they know how to love. We'd also be ignorant to think they don't know how to enjoy their surroundings. If it's too cold, they head to warmer climates. When it gets too hot, they get out of the heat. Just because man says we're
it
doesn't make it so.
Right. So let's start looking at the other side of the coin.
Man is aware of his own mortality, and his own insignificence.
He knows that his world is a mere speck of dust in a galaxy that is one of countless millions if galaxies
He knows that his time here, and that of everyone he has ever known, is but the blink of an eye in the grand scheme of things.
If things are good today, he knows that the day will come when they are not good.
If reincarnation were a proven fact, and you could choose to come back as a person, or say, a blue fronted Amazon parrot, (Or some other animal) which would you choose?
If I were to come back as a person, I'd prefer to come from some indigenous tribe where they respect and understand their surroundings and aren't worried about what's on CNN. What a great life that would be!
As for picking an animal, that's a tough one. Each has their own dangers to face and they're fully aware of their mortality. Granted, they aren't necessarily aware of humanity's ability to kill them off, but in natural terms...they know what's what. Whatever I'd pick, it would have to be something that migrates. I just think that would be so cool. Yeah, you've dangers in getting there and back. But what a trip.
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Re: Vagueness and the Aftermath - A sporadic diary
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May 04, 2011, 07:27:59 PM »
I would have to come back as a dog (probably a Labrador) that lived in a pub with an open fire.Spend all day going from table to table looking cute and getting tidbits.
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Seriously though. Do you think the advantages of being able to reason as a human outweigh the disadvantages of being able to reason as a human?
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Quote from: RED-DOG on May 04, 2011, 07:35:08 PM
Seriously though. Do you think the advantages of being able to reason as a human outweigh the disadvantages of being able to reason as a human?
Considering humans are really good at making a mountain out of a molehill at the best of times, I tend to think there aren't that many advantages in the first place. And let's face it...how many humans these days to you know who
truly
take the time to appreciate the things you mentioned earlier?
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May 04, 2011, 08:53:02 PM »
Quote from: Laxie on May 04, 2011, 08:00:53 PM
Quote from: RED-DOG on May 04, 2011, 07:35:08 PM
Seriously though. Do you think the advantages of being able to reason as a human outweigh the disadvantages of being able to reason as a human?
Considering humans are really good at making a mountain out of a molehill at the best of times, I tend to think there aren't that many advantages in the first place. And let's face it...how many humans these days to you know who
truly
take the time to appreciate the things you mentioned earlier?
But they do have the option to appreciate those things.
Take a walk around a library, an art gallery, a museum. Humans can make things other than mole hills.
Just playing Devil's advocate here.....
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May 04, 2011, 09:33:13 PM »
I heard today that if you shuffle a deck of cards, the odds are that no other deck anywhere in the world has ever been shuffled into that particular order.
I have no idea how to work out if this might be true.
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Re: Vagueness and the Aftermath - A sporadic diary
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Quote from: RED-DOG on May 04, 2011, 09:33:13 PM
I heard today that if you shuffle a deck of cards, the odds are that no other deck anywhere in the world has ever been shuffled into that particular order.
I have no idea how to work out if this might be true.
Ask gatso, he knows what's true and what's bs.
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Re: Vagueness and the Aftermath - A sporadic diary
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May 04, 2011, 10:12:53 PM »
Quote from: RED-DOG on May 04, 2011, 12:32:00 PM
Quote from: Laxie on May 04, 2011, 12:13:12 PM
Quote from: RED-DOG on May 04, 2011, 12:07:51 PM
Man's brain has developed enough to allow him to appreciate the wonder of the world around him. To take pleasure in the intracity of nature, to marvel at the beauty of a a flower, a tree, a butterfly, a coastline, a mountain, a dessert, a meadow.
The ability to imagine, to be moved to laughter or tears by a piece of music, a poem, a story, a picture.
The ability to empathise. To look at someone and think, "I will help him because I can imagine what it would feel like to be in his position".
In that sense, we are hugely privileged and at the top of the cognitive evolutionary ladder.
But why does man think he can claim that title all to himself. Look at other life on the planet. They help each other out individually, they work together in groups and they know how to love. We'd also be ignorant to think they don't know how to enjoy their surroundings. If it's too cold, they head to warmer climates. When it gets too hot, they get out of the heat. Just because man says we're
it
doesn't make it so.
Right. So let's start looking at the other side of the coin.
Man is aware of his own mortality, and his own insignificence.
He knows that his world is a mere speck of dust in a galaxy that is one of countless millions if galaxies
He knows that his time here, and that of everyone he has ever known, is but the blink of an eye in the grand scheme of things.
If things are good today, he knows that the day will come when they are not good.
If reincarnation were a proven fact, and you could choose to come back as a person, or say, a blue fronted Amazon parrot, (Or some other animal) which would you choose?
Easy-peasy, a white poodle living with a Jewish family.
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Re: Vagueness and the Aftermath - A sporadic diary
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May 04, 2011, 10:14:17 PM »
Quote from: Karabiner on May 04, 2011, 10:12:53 PM
Quote from: RED-DOG on May 04, 2011, 12:32:00 PM
Quote from: Laxie on May 04, 2011, 12:13:12 PM
Quote from: RED-DOG on May 04, 2011, 12:07:51 PM
Man's brain has developed enough to allow him to appreciate the wonder of the world around him. To take pleasure in the intracity of nature, to marvel at the beauty of a a flower, a tree, a butterfly, a coastline, a mountain, a dessert, a meadow.
The ability to imagine, to be moved to laughter or tears by a piece of music, a poem, a story, a picture.
The ability to empathise. To look at someone and think, "I will help him because I can imagine what it would feel like to be in his position".
In that sense, we are hugely privileged and at the top of the cognitive evolutionary ladder.
But why does man think he can claim that title all to himself. Look at other life on the planet. They help each other out individually, they work together in groups and they know how to love. We'd also be ignorant to think they don't know how to enjoy their surroundings. If it's too cold, they head to warmer climates. When it gets too hot, they get out of the heat. Just because man says we're
it
doesn't make it so.
Right. So let's start looking at the other side of the coin.
Man is aware of his own mortality, and his own insignificence.
He knows that his world is a mere speck of dust in a galaxy that is one of countless millions if galaxies
He knows that his time here, and that of everyone he has ever known, is but the blink of an eye in the grand scheme of things.
If things are good today, he knows that the day will come when they are not good.
If reincarnation were a proven fact, and you could choose to come back as a person, or say, a blue fronted Amazon parrot, (Or some other animal) which would you choose?
Easy-peasy, a white poodle living with a Jewish family.
Oy!
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Re: Vagueness and the Aftermath - A sporadic diary
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Reply #12219 on:
May 04, 2011, 10:23:02 PM »
Quote from: RED-DOG on May 04, 2011, 10:14:17 PM
Quote from: Karabiner on May 04, 2011, 10:12:53 PM
Quote from: RED-DOG on May 04, 2011, 12:32:00 PM
Quote from: Laxie on May 04, 2011, 12:13:12 PM
Quote from: RED-DOG on May 04, 2011, 12:07:51 PM
Man's brain has developed enough to allow him to appreciate the wonder of the world around him. To take pleasure in the intracity of nature, to marvel at the beauty of a a flower, a tree, a butterfly, a coastline, a mountain, a dessert, a meadow.
The ability to imagine, to be moved to laughter or tears by a piece of music, a poem, a story, a picture.
The ability to empathise. To look at someone and think, "I will help him because I can imagine what it would feel like to be in his position".
In that sense, we are hugely privileged and at the top of the cognitive evolutionary ladder.
But why does man think he can claim that title all to himself. Look at other life on the planet. They help each other out individually, they work together in groups and they know how to love. We'd also be ignorant to think they don't know how to enjoy their surroundings. If it's too cold, they head to warmer climates. When it gets too hot, they get out of the heat. Just because man says we're
it
doesn't make it so.
Right. So let's start looking at the other side of the coin.
Man is aware of his own mortality, and his own insignificence.
He knows that his world is a mere speck of dust in a galaxy that is one of countless millions if galaxies
He knows that his time here, and that of everyone he has ever known, is but the blink of an eye in the grand scheme of things.
If things are good today, he knows that the day will come when they are not good.
If reincarnation were a proven fact, and you could choose to come back as a person, or say, a blue fronted Amazon parrot, (Or some other animal) which would you choose?
Easy-peasy, a white poodle living with a Jewish family.
Oy!
Mind you Felicity's new cat Lily has got a real cushty life.
I told her that she must have spent the last fifteen years practising spoiling her late lamented cat Toby so she could spoil this one better.
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Re: Vagueness and the Aftermath - A sporadic diary
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Quote from: RED-DOG on May 04, 2011, 08:53:02 PM
Quote from: Laxie on May 04, 2011, 08:00:53 PM
Quote from: RED-DOG on May 04, 2011, 07:35:08 PM
Seriously though. Do you think the advantages of being able to reason as a human outweigh the disadvantages of being able to reason as a human?
Considering humans are really good at making a mountain out of a molehill at the best of times, I tend to think there aren't that many advantages in the first place. And let's face it...how many humans these days to you know who
truly
take the time to appreciate the things you mentioned earlier?
But they do have the option to appreciate those things.
Take a walk around a library, an art gallery, a museum. Humans can make things other than mole hills.
Just playing Devil's advocate here.....
Yes, they have the option. But how many actually take advantage of it? As a supposedly superior species goes, we really are wasting our 'gifts'.
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Re: Vagueness and the Aftermath - A sporadic diary
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May 04, 2011, 10:38:39 PM »
Quote from: Laxie on May 04, 2011, 10:26:00 PM
Quote from: RED-DOG on May 04, 2011, 08:53:02 PM
Quote from: Laxie on May 04, 2011, 08:00:53 PM
Quote from: RED-DOG on May 04, 2011, 07:35:08 PM
Seriously though. Do you think the advantages of being able to reason as a human outweigh the disadvantages of being able to reason as a human?
Considering humans are really good at making a mountain out of a molehill at the best of times, I tend to think there aren't that many advantages in the first place. And let's face it...how many humans these days to you know who
truly
take the time to appreciate the things you mentioned earlier?
But they do have the option to appreciate those things.
Take a walk around a library, an art gallery, a museum. Humans can make things other than mole hills.
Just playing Devil's advocate here.....
Yes, they have the option. But how many actually take advantage of it? As a supposedly superior species goes, we really are wasting our 'gifts'.
Yes, but that's personal choice, and not relevant to the question.
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Quote from: Karabiner on May 04, 2011, 10:23:02 PM
Quote from: RED-DOG on May 04, 2011, 10:14:17 PM
Quote from: Karabiner on May 04, 2011, 10:12:53 PM
Quote from: RED-DOG on May 04, 2011, 12:32:00 PM
Quote from: Laxie on May 04, 2011, 12:13:12 PM
Quote from: RED-DOG on May 04, 2011, 12:07:51 PM
Man's brain has developed enough to allow him to appreciate the wonder of the world around him. To take pleasure in the intracity of nature, to marvel at the beauty of a a flower, a tree, a butterfly, a coastline, a mountain, a dessert, a meadow.
The ability to imagine, to be moved to laughter or tears by a piece of music, a poem, a story, a picture.
The ability to empathise. To look at someone and think, "I will help him because I can imagine what it would feel like to be in his position".
In that sense, we are hugely privileged and at the top of the cognitive evolutionary ladder.
But why does man think he can claim that title all to himself. Look at other life on the planet. They help each other out individually, they work together in groups and they know how to love. We'd also be ignorant to think they don't know how to enjoy their surroundings. If it's too cold, they head to warmer climates. When it gets too hot, they get out of the heat. Just because man says we're
it
doesn't make it so.
Right. So let's start looking at the other side of the coin.
Man is aware of his own mortality, and his own insignificence.
He knows that his world is a mere speck of dust in a galaxy that is one of countless millions if galaxies
He knows that his time here, and that of everyone he has ever known, is but the blink of an eye in the grand scheme of things.
If things are good today, he knows that the day will come when they are not good.
If reincarnation were a proven fact, and you could choose to come back as a person, or say, a blue fronted Amazon parrot, (Or some other animal) which would you choose?
Easy-peasy, a white poodle living with a Jewish family.
Oy!
Mind you Felicity's new cat Lily has got a real cushty life.
I told her that she must have spent the last fifteen years practising spoiling her late lamented cat Toby so she could spoil this one better.
So why the white poodle when you could be Felicity's cat?
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Re: Vagueness and the Aftermath - A sporadic diary
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Reply #12223 on:
May 04, 2011, 11:11:50 PM »
Quote from: RED-DOG on May 04, 2011, 10:56:32 PM
Quote from: Karabiner on May 04, 2011, 10:23:02 PM
Quote from: RED-DOG on May 04, 2011, 10:14:17 PM
Quote from: Karabiner on May 04, 2011, 10:12:53 PM
Quote from: RED-DOG on May 04, 2011, 12:32:00 PM
Quote from: Laxie on May 04, 2011, 12:13:12 PM
Quote from: RED-DOG on May 04, 2011, 12:07:51 PM
Man's brain has developed enough to allow him to appreciate the wonder of the world around him. To take pleasure in the intracity of nature, to marvel at the beauty of a a flower, a tree, a butterfly, a coastline, a mountain, a dessert, a meadow.
The ability to imagine, to be moved to laughter or tears by a piece of music, a poem, a story, a picture.
The ability to empathise. To look at someone and think, "I will help him because I can imagine what it would feel like to be in his position".
In that sense, we are hugely privileged and at the top of the cognitive evolutionary ladder.
But why does man think he can claim that title all to himself. Look at other life on the planet. They help each other out individually, they work together in groups and they know how to love. We'd also be ignorant to think they don't know how to enjoy their surroundings. If it's too cold, they head to warmer climates. When it gets too hot, they get out of the heat. Just because man says we're
it
doesn't make it so.
Right. So let's start looking at the other side of the coin.
Man is aware of his own mortality, and his own insignificence.
He knows that his world is a mere speck of dust in a galaxy that is one of countless millions if galaxies
He knows that his time here, and that of everyone he has ever known, is but the blink of an eye in the grand scheme of things.
If things are good today, he knows that the day will come when they are not good.
If reincarnation were a proven fact, and you could choose to come back as a person, or say, a blue fronted Amazon parrot, (Or some other animal) which would you choose?
Easy-peasy, a white poodle living with a Jewish family.
Oy!
Mind you Felicity's new cat Lily has got a real cushty life.
I told her that she must have spent the last fifteen years practising spoiling her late lamented cat Toby so she could spoil this one better.
So why the white poodle when you could be Felicity's cat?
Well there's only one Felicity and she's already got a new cat which believe me is not ready to move out without a fight as it gets fish for lunch every day and has it's own sheepskin lined basket. Lily doesn't dare go outside for more than twenty minutes at a time before checking back to see that all is well and it's not just a cat-dream.
White poodles on the other hand have many potential Jewish homes available where they are traditionally treated far better than the man of the house, or anyone else in the house for that matter if history repeats itself. A safe bet if ever I saw one.
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Is there a Jewish white poodle tradition?
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