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Re: Vagueness and the Aftermath - A sporadic diary
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November 18, 2019, 10:06:04 AM »
Do you ever feel like you've spent big chunks of your life waiting for the next stage?
I do.
Well perhaps not exactly waiting for the next stage, but a feeling of, "I just need to get X sorted and then I'm free to do Y.
The trouble being, there is always another X and I'm not sure what Y is.
Does that make any sense at all?
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Re: Vagueness and the Aftermath - A sporadic diary
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November 18, 2019, 12:28:38 PM »
Quote from: RED-DOG on November 18, 2019, 10:06:04 AM
Do you ever feel like you've spent big chunks of your life waiting for the next stage?
I do.
Well perhaps not exactly waiting for the next stage, but a feeling of, "I just need to get X sorted and then I'm free to do Y.
The trouble being, there is always another X and I'm not sure what Y is.
Does that make any sense at all?
It makes a lot of sense if you accept that in this instance, Y = X where X has no specific value.
It’s New Math
https://youtu.be/W6OaYPVueW4
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Re: Vagueness and the Aftermath - A sporadic diary
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November 19, 2019, 09:17:03 AM »
Quote from: RED-DOG on November 18, 2019, 10:06:04 AM
Do you ever feel like you've spent big chunks of your life waiting for the next stage?
I do.
Well perhaps not exactly waiting for the next stage, but a feeling of, "I just need to get X sorted and then I'm free to do Y.
The trouble being, there is always another X and I'm not sure what Y is.
Does that make any sense at all?
A common (related) problem is the
XY Problem
where you ask about your attempted solution to a problem, instead of asking how to solve your actual problem. (Asking about X, when you should really ask about Y)
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Re: Vagueness and the Aftermath - A sporadic diary
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November 19, 2019, 10:36:18 AM »
Quote from: mulhuzz on November 19, 2019, 09:17:03 AM
Quote from: RED-DOG on November 18, 2019, 10:06:04 AM
Do you ever feel like you've spent big chunks of your life waiting for the next stage?
I do.
Well perhaps not exactly waiting for the next stage, but a feeling of, "I just need to get X sorted and then I'm free to do Y.
The trouble being, there is always another X and I'm not sure what Y is.
Does that make any sense at all?
A common (related) problem is the
XY Problem
where you ask about your attempted solution to a problem, instead of asking how to solve your actual problem. (Asking about X, when you should really ask about Y)
As a salesman I came up against this a lot. Part of my process was to take the client through the steps of describing and defining Y and then showing him that Z was the best solution. Unless I only had Xs to sell obviously.
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Re: Vagueness and the Aftermath - A sporadic diary
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Reply #31939 on:
November 19, 2019, 11:52:51 AM »
Quote from: Pokerpops on November 19, 2019, 10:36:18 AM
Quote from: mulhuzz on November 19, 2019, 09:17:03 AM
Quote from: RED-DOG on November 18, 2019, 10:06:04 AM
Do you ever feel like you've spent big chunks of your life waiting for the next stage?
I do.
Well perhaps not exactly waiting for the next stage, but a feeling of, "I just need to get X sorted and then I'm free to do Y.
The trouble being, there is always another X and I'm not sure what Y is.
Does that make any sense at all?
A common (related) problem is the
XY Problem
where you ask about your attempted solution to a problem, instead of asking how to solve your actual problem. (Asking about X, when you should really ask about Y)
As a salesman I came up against this a lot. Part of my process was to take the client through the steps of describing and defining Y and then showing him that Z was the best solution. Unless I only had Xs to sell obviously.
I just wanted someone to say "Oh yeah, me too, I know that feeling" etc.
Now my head hurts.
You were a salesman eh Dave? What did you sell?
Any more pics of the camper? Have you done much since the previous ones?
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Re: Vagueness and the Aftermath - A sporadic diary
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Reply #31940 on:
November 19, 2019, 12:24:03 PM »
Quote from: RED-DOG on November 19, 2019, 11:52:51 AM
Quote from: Pokerpops on November 19, 2019, 10:36:18 AM
Quote from: mulhuzz on November 19, 2019, 09:17:03 AM
Quote from: RED-DOG on November 18, 2019, 10:06:04 AM
Do you ever feel like you've spent big chunks of your life waiting for the next stage?
I do.
Well perhaps not exactly waiting for the next stage, but a feeling of, "I just need to get X sorted and then I'm free to do Y.
The trouble being, there is always another X and I'm not sure what Y is.
Does that make any sense at all?
A common (related) problem is the
XY Problem
where you ask about your attempted solution to a problem, instead of asking how to solve your actual problem. (Asking about X, when you should really ask about Y)
As a salesman I came up against this a lot. Part of my process was to take the client through the steps of describing and defining Y and then showing him that Z was the best solution. Unless I only had Xs to sell obviously.
I just wanted someone to say "Oh yeah, me too, I know that feeling" etc.
Now my head hurts.
You were a salesman eh Dave? What did you sell?
Any more pics of the camper? Have you done much since the previous ones?
For most of my career I sold finance solutions to companies. Hire Purchase, Leasing etc for anything from photocopiers to 6 colour printing presses, cars to multi-wheel low loaders, excavators, mining gear, I even financed £100,000 worth of beer kegs once.
The pics I posted earlier were from Feb 2017. A lot has been done since then, it will never be finished, but it is fully functional and I got DVLA to agree that it is a Motor Caravan well before they got arsey about stuff earlier this year.
We added a bit of extra sleeping space...
I say we, but this was one job I knew I had to pay for.
The floor had to be ripped out and replaced, horse pee is horrible stuff.
Then we added some windows. Seitz are so expensive and look so wrong in a body like ours so I bought these wooden frames in kit form and got toughened glass sealed units, which all came in for less than one seitz.
Insulated it
and lined it out with OSB
Will post more when I can. Feel free to comment on what an outstanding job I did
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Re: Vagueness and the Aftermath - A sporadic diary
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Reply #31941 on:
November 19, 2019, 12:38:11 PM »
Quote from: Pokerpops on November 19, 2019, 12:24:03 PM
Quote from: RED-DOG on November 19, 2019, 11:52:51 AM
Quote from: Pokerpops on November 19, 2019, 10:36:18 AM
Quote from: mulhuzz on November 19, 2019, 09:17:03 AM
Quote from: RED-DOG on November 18, 2019, 10:06:04 AM
Do you ever feel like you've spent big chunks of your life waiting for the next stage?
I do.
Well perhaps not exactly waiting for the next stage, but a feeling of, "I just need to get X sorted and then I'm free to do Y.
The trouble being, there is always another X and I'm not sure what Y is.
Does that make any sense at all?
A common (related) problem is the
XY Problem
where you ask about your attempted solution to a problem, instead of asking how to solve your actual problem. (Asking about X, when you should really ask about Y)
As a salesman I came up against this a lot. Part of my process was to take the client through the steps of describing and defining Y and then showing him that Z was the best solution. Unless I only had Xs to sell obviously.
I just wanted someone to say "Oh yeah, me too, I know that feeling" etc.
Now my head hurts.
You were a salesman eh Dave? What did you sell?
Any more pics of the camper? Have you done much since the previous ones?
For most of my career I sold finance solutions to companies. Hire Purchase, Leasing etc for anything from photocopiers to 6 colour printing presses, cars to multi-wheel low loaders, excavators, mining gear, I even financed £100,000 worth of beer kegs once.
The pics I posted earlier were from Feb 2017. A lot has been done since then, it will never be finished, but it is fully functional and I got DVLA to agree that it is a Motor Caravan well before they got arsey about stuff earlier this year.
We added a bit of extra sleeping space...
I say we, but this was one job I knew I had to pay for.
The floor had to be ripped out and replaced, horse pee is horrible stuff.
Then we added some windows. Seitz are so expensive and look so wrong in a body like ours so I bought these wooden frames in kit form and got toughened glass sealed units, which all came in for less than one seitz.
Insulated it
and lined it out with OSB
Will post more when I can. Feel free to comment on what an outstanding job I did
That looks like an excellent job to me Dave. I'm looking forward to seeing more pics and hearing more detail.
I like the "it will never be finished" comment. Ongoing projects are great, people tend to take their time rather than rush to get it done.
Sometimes the journey is more important than the destination.
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Re: Vagueness and the Aftermath - A sporadic diary
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Reply #31942 on:
November 19, 2019, 01:17:27 PM »
Quote from: RED-DOG on November 19, 2019, 12:38:11 PM
Quote from: Pokerpops on November 19, 2019, 12:24:03 PM
Quote from: RED-DOG on November 19, 2019, 11:52:51 AM
Quote from: Pokerpops on November 19, 2019, 10:36:18 AM
Quote from: mulhuzz on November 19, 2019, 09:17:03 AM
Quote from: RED-DOG on November 18, 2019, 10:06:04 AM
Do you ever feel like you've spent big chunks of your life waiting for the next stage?
I do.
Well perhaps not exactly waiting for the next stage, but a feeling of, "I just need to get X sorted and then I'm free to do Y.
The trouble being, there is always another X and I'm not sure what Y is.
Does that make any sense at all?
A common (related) problem is the
XY Problem
where you ask about your attempted solution to a problem, instead of asking how to solve your actual problem. (Asking about X, when you should really ask about Y)
As a salesman I came up against this a lot. Part of my process was to take the client through the steps of describing and defining Y and then showing him that Z was the best solution. Unless I only had Xs to sell obviously.
I just wanted someone to say "Oh yeah, me too, I know that feeling" etc.
Now my head hurts.
You were a salesman eh Dave? What did you sell?
Any more pics of the camper? Have you done much since the previous ones?
For most of my career I sold finance solutions to companies. Hire Purchase, Leasing etc for anything from photocopiers to 6 colour printing presses, cars to multi-wheel low loaders, excavators, mining gear, I even financed £100,000 worth of beer kegs once.
The pics I posted earlier were from Feb 2017. A lot has been done since then, it will never be finished, but it is fully functional and I got DVLA to agree that it is a Motor Caravan well before they got arsey about stuff earlier this year.
We added a bit of extra sleeping space...
I say we, but this was one job I knew I had to pay for.
The floor had to be ripped out and replaced, horse pee is horrible stuff.
Then we added some windows. Seitz are so expensive and look so wrong in a body like ours so I bought these wooden frames in kit form and got toughened glass sealed units, which all came in for less than one seitz.
Insulated it
and lined it out with OSB
Will post more when I can. Feel free to comment on what an outstanding job I did
That looks like an excellent job to me Dave. I'm looking forward to seeing more pics and hearing more detail.
I like the "it will never be finished" comment. Ongoing projects are great, people tend to take their time rather than rush to get it done.
Sometimes the journey is more important than the destination.
Nailed it.
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Will he still get paid?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-50496539
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Are alloy wheels worth anything as scrap Red? I've ended up with two buckled wheels, one 18" one 17", both BMW originals if it makes a difference. If not I'll add them to the next trip to the tip pile.
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November 20, 2019, 07:45:11 PM »
Quote from: RED-DOG on November 20, 2019, 06:20:25 PM
Will he still get paid?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-50496539
I saw an American red-top's witty headline immediately post-interview - "His Royal Dryness"
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Quote from: Longines on November 20, 2019, 07:26:40 PM
Are alloy wheels worth anything as scrap Red? I've ended up with two buckled wheels, one 18" one 17", both BMW originals if it makes a difference. If not I'll add them to the next trip to the tip pile.
Perhaps £4 or £5 each so unless you have some other stuff to accompany them it won't be worth your while taking them.
Just take the to the tip and make sure one of the employees sees you unloading them for brownie point value or leave them outside your gate overnight if you can't be arsed.
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Thanks Red.
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Quote from: Longines on November 20, 2019, 07:26:40 PM
Are alloy wheels worth anything as scrap Red? I've ended up with two buckled wheels, one 18" one 17", both BMW originals if it makes a difference. If not I'll add them to the next trip to the tip pile.
How about Lead Acid batteries? I have 6 or 7 currently. {insert punchline here}
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