Vagueness and the Aftermath - A sporadic diary

[kinboshi]

Cook it obv.

Is it true that you bake them in mud and then when you take the mud off, all the spines come off and its edible ?

Only one way to find out... (other than google)

[Colchester Kev]

Cook it obv.

Is it true that you bake them in mud and then when you take the mud off, all the spines come off and its edible ?

I'd like to say yes Kev, but the truth is I don't honestly know, I've never seen done. We used to gut and skin them like any other animal and then spit-roast them on the fire.

I don't particularly like them myself, too fatty.

taste a bit like pork imo.

[kinboshi]

Cook it obv.

Is it true that you bake them in mud and then when you take the mud off, all the spines come off and its edible ?

I'd like to say yes Kev, but the truth is I don't honestly know, I've never seen done. We used to gut and skin them like any other animal and then spit-roast them on the fire.

I don't particularly like them myself, too fatty.

taste a bit like pork imo.

Chicken ldo

[RED-DOG]

Cook it obv.

Is it true that you bake them in mud and then when you take the mud off, all the spines come off and its edible ?

I'd like to say yes Kev, but the truth is I don't honestly know, I've never seen done. We used to gut and skin them like any other animal and then spit-roast them on the fire.

I don't particularly like them myself, too fatty.

taste a bit like pork imo.

You've had hedgehog?

[Colchester Kev]

Yeah, was in France at my Cousins camp site ... he had Romanian travellers staying there and we were invited to eat with them. Didnt see them preparing the food though.

[RED-DOG]

Yeah, was in France at my Cousins camp site ... he had Romanian travellers staying there and we were invited to eat with them. Didnt see them preparing the food though.

You're a dark horse you are Kev.

BTW - "Hotchiwitchi" is the Romany word for Hedgehog.

[Colchester Kev]

Just found this on the net ...

im a traveller meself but never eaten a hotchi but my dad has eate and killed thousands of em he's 73 and grew up on em ,,,, to be quite truthful with ya cooking them in clay is the biggest load of bullshit ever said it was probably told as a joke to someone and its spread from there........ first of all when you get yer hedgehog you tap him on the nose to kill him with the back of ya dagger.. then you hold him by by back legs and stand on his front feet and pull him tight working with a sharp knife shave the bristles downwards to his nose,, when youve got off al the bristles you can with the knife you then hold him over a flame turning him gently around and over to singe off any remaining bristle and hair,, whilst dooin this the hedgehogs back will swell up to almost double its size and the whole thing will turn black and look like a bowler hat,,,, now starting at the front of the nose gently tap into the bone a with a dagger and use something blunt and heavy to tap with.the hedgehog has a bone that runs from its nose to its tail tap the dagger all the way through the to the tail end,, once youve done this now your ready to gut it,,you gut through the back taking great care not to bust the gall bladder which looks like little blue ball my dad said if the gall bladder was busted due to the flaming they would throw it away cos it would make you bad,,,, now wash it out and cook in a tray like any other meat,,,,,,,,, p.s hedgehog fat will never set it always stays liquidy and dogs wont touch the leftovers ..... i hope thats cleared the subject up for anyone

[RED-DOG]

Just found this on the net ...

im a traveller meself but never eaten a hotchi but my dad has eate and killed thousands of em he's 73 and grew up on em ,,,, to be quite truthful with ya cooking them in clay is the biggest load of bullshit ever said it was probably told as a joke to someone and its spread from there........ first of all when you get yer hedgehog you tap him on the nose to kill him with the back of ya dagger.. then you hold him by by back legs and stand on his front feet and pull him tight working with a sharp knife shave the bristles downwards to his nose,, when youve got off al the bristles you can with the knife you then hold him over a flame turning him gently around and over to singe off any remaining bristle and hair,, whilst dooin this the hedgehogs back will swell up to almost double its size and the whole thing will turn black and look like a bowler hat,,,, now starting at the front of the nose gently tap into the bone a with a dagger and use something blunt and heavy to tap with.the hedgehog has a bone that runs from its nose to its tail tap the dagger all the way through the to the tail end,, once youve done this now your ready to gut it,,you gut through the back taking great care not to bust the gall bladder which looks like little blue ball my dad said if the gall bladder was busted due to the flaming they would throw it away cos it would make you bad,,,, now wash it out and cook in a tray like any other meat,,,,,,,,, p.s hedgehog fat will never set it always stays liquidy and dogs wont touch the leftovers ..... i hope thats cleared the subject up for anyone

Excellent.

[sovietsong]

As part of my quest to become a football supporter I need to understand a few things. So, can someone explain, in simple terms, what a "Transfer window" is please?

Have you picked your team yet Red, or narrowed it down to 2 or 3?

Yes, I'm down to Leeds, Wednesday, and Forrest.

My word what a difficult decision. Personally if you have that choice I would drop Leeds. Nobody likes them and with very good reason.........their supporters tend to be a little bit full of themselves. Just because they have now found their true level in the third tier of football in this country does not mean this tendancy is not there.
A little typo with Forrest though they are a bit Gumpy...........no for true football pain and real support I think you have to support Sheffield Wednesday. The first ever winners of the Cromwell cup in 1868 a tournament with only four runners in it they won nothing between 1959 and 1991 and have won nothing since except for last seasons play off final. This is the performance of a real football team. Not many remember the glory years of 1903/4 or the rennaissance of 1929/30 Remember this Red, your football team are yours forever, take your time.

The exact reason you should pick Leeds, to brand a whole club by the actions of a few is so ridiculous i dont know were to begin. 

Right. I do have some sympathy for Leeds and thier supporters, after all, I have a lot of experience of the majority being judged by the actions of the few.

Your dad is a Leeds supporter Sov, I'm sure he doesn't want to be judged like that, and yet he continues to judge me like that.

Well I'm willing to take a chance if he is. I will support Leeds, if, perhaps next year sometime, you and your dad will shake my hand and take me to see a game.

If not, I will understand completely. I will go for Wednesday and still be happy to call you my friend.

Its funny you should say that Red, I gave my dad an example on the way to watch Leeds vs Bristol Rovers very similar to the one mentioned here about all leeds fans being hooligans etc and he took everything I said on board. 

I must stress that my Dad isnt a half wit however due to the deep predudice it takes time!  I will be spending alot of time with him this weekend and I am almost certain he would jump at the chance to meet you.  I actually think you would get on very well, although you might not think it from the way i have portayed him.  He is a working class man that loves anybody that is hardworking, doubt he'd buy you a drink though, not because your a Gypsy, because he is a tight get!

[Mrs RED-DOG]

Hi Mrs. Red!!!   

Hi Laxie
How are you, I trust you are well...
sorry for the delay in answering, watching 'Lost in Austen' it's on ITV 3
Zelley

My apologies for the reply as well, Zelley.  We headed out after I posted.  All is well on this side.  

Any chance we'll see you at the Blonde Bash?  Would be lovely to meet you again.  After months spent picking Red's brain about different topics in this thread, I've have a few questions I reckon only you can answer.  

Either way, hope all is well.  xx    

Hello again, yes I will be going to the Blonde Bash and of course I will answer your questions, if I can
See you then
Best Wishes
Zelley

[RED-DOG]

I must stress that my Dad isnt a half wit however due to the deep predudice it takes time!  I will be spending alot of time with him this weekend and I am almost certain he would jump at the chance to meet you.  I actually think you would get on very well, although you might not think it from the way i have portayed him.

I don't think you portrayed him like that at all. I'm sure he's a good man and it's obvious that you respect him a great deal, which is just as it should be.

[boldie]

Just found this on the net ...

im a traveller meself but never eaten a hotchi but my dad has eate and killed thousands of em he's 73 and grew up on em ,,,, to be quite truthful with ya cooking them in clay is the biggest load of bullshit ever said it was probably told as a joke to someone and its spread from there........ first of all when you get yer hedgehog you tap him on the nose to kill him with the back of ya dagger.. then you hold him by by back legs and stand on his front feet and pull him tight working with a sharp knife shave the bristles downwards to his nose,, when youve got off al the bristles you can with the knife you then hold him over a flame turning him gently around and over to singe off any remaining bristle and hair,, whilst dooin this the hedgehogs back will swell up to almost double its size and the whole thing will turn black and look like a bowler hat,,,, now starting at the front of the nose gently tap into the bone a with a dagger and use something blunt and heavy to tap with.the hedgehog has a bone that runs from its nose to its tail tap the dagger all the way through the to the tail end,, once youve done this now your ready to gut it,,you gut through the back taking great care not to bust the gall bladder which looks like little blue ball my dad said if the gall bladder was busted due to the flaming they would throw it away cos it would make you bad,,,, now wash it out and cook in a tray like any other meat,,,,,,,,, p.s hedgehog fat will never set it always stays liquidy and dogs wont touch the leftovers ..... i hope thats cleared the subject up for anyone

Well that's Mr Red eyeing up the hedgehog now.

As for calling a hedgehog fatty, Mr Red...pot meet kettle?

[sovietsong]

I must stress that my Dad isnt a half wit however due to the deep predudice it takes time!  I will be spending alot of time with him this weekend and I am almost certain he would jump at the chance to meet you.  I actually think you would get on very well, although you might not think it from the way i have portayed him.

I don't think you portrayed him like that at all. I'm sure he's a good man and it's obvious that you respect him a great deal, which is just as it should be.

I will let you form your own opinion when you meet him at the game, he can do the same.

[RED-DOG]

I must stress that my Dad isnt a half wit however due to the deep predudice it takes time!  I will be spending alot of time with him this weekend and I am almost certain he would jump at the chance to meet you.  I actually think you would get on very well, although you might not think it from the way i have portayed him.

I don't think you portrayed him like that at all. I'm sure he's a good man and it's obvious that you respect him a great deal, which is just as it should be.

I will let you form your own opinion when you meet him at the game, he can do the same.

Hang on, you're jumping the gun. I said, "I'm willing to take a chance if he is. I will support Leeds, if, perhaps next year sometime, you and your dad will shake my hand and take me to see a game"

So that means your old man has to agree too, otherwise, its "Come on you owls!!" 

[RED-DOG]

Just found this on the net ...

im a traveller meself but never eaten a hotchi but my dad has eate and killed thousands of em he's 73 and grew up on em ,,,, to be quite truthful with ya cooking them in clay is the biggest load of bullshit ever said it was probably told as a joke to someone and its spread from there........ first of all when you get yer hedgehog you tap him on the nose to kill him with the back of ya dagger.. then you hold him by by back legs and stand on his front feet and pull him tight working with a sharp knife shave the bristles downwards to his nose,, when youve got off al the bristles you can with the knife you then hold him over a flame turning him gently around and over to singe off any remaining bristle and hair,, whilst dooin this the hedgehogs back will swell up to almost double its size and the whole thing will turn black and look like a bowler hat,,,, now starting at the front of the nose gently tap into the bone a with a dagger and use something blunt and heavy to tap with.the hedgehog has a bone that runs from its nose to its tail tap the dagger all the way through the to the tail end,, once youve done this now your ready to gut it,,you gut through the back taking great care not to bust the gall bladder which looks like little blue ball my dad said if the gall bladder was busted due to the flaming they would throw it away cos it would make you bad,,,, now wash it out and cook in a tray like any other meat,,,,,,,,, p.s hedgehog fat will never set it always stays liquidy and dogs wont touch the leftovers ..... i hope thats cleared the subject up for anyone

Well that's Mr Red eyeing up the hedgehog now.

As for calling a hedgehog fatty, Mr Red...pot meet kettle?

And where have you been?

Have you got a note?