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« Reply #15 on: October 08, 2008, 04:12:45 PM »

Take it you didn't go on to win then
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« Reply #16 on: October 08, 2008, 04:23:20 PM »

Honest I'm definitely not bitter he went on to donk his way to 65k euros lol


Take it you didn't go on to win then
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« Reply #17 on: October 08, 2008, 04:30:52 PM »

Honest I'm definitely not bitter he went on to donk his way to 65k euros lol


Take it you didn't go on to win then

lol - now I can laugh about it though it took a couple of days which is why I didn't post this thread until today
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« Reply #18 on: October 08, 2008, 04:35:54 PM »

lol he has like 26x!  super standard jam here.
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« Reply #19 on: October 08, 2008, 04:43:51 PM »

lol he has like 26x!  super standard jam here.

seriously? - after an ep raise and ep reraise and little fold equity?

would having 26xBB not make finding a better spot possible
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« Reply #20 on: October 08, 2008, 05:15:44 PM »

lol he has like 26x!  super standard jam here.

It appears this was a nitfest
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« Reply #21 on: October 08, 2008, 05:22:05 PM »

lol he has like 26x!  super standard jam here.

seriously? - after an ep raise and ep reraise and little fold equity?

would having 26xBB not make finding a better spot possible

Unless you are complete and utter granite then it might be possible.  Personally i would assume m3boy is opening pretty wide utg into wht is probably a v weak table, so i would be 3betting him with 99+, AJs+, AQo+ absolute minimum, maybe your range is tighter.  But vs that range QQ plays:

   equity    win    tie          pots won    pots tied   
Hand 0:    41.422%     40.34%    01.08%         244545540      6537042.00   { 99+, AJs+, AQo+ }
Hand 1:    58.578%     57.50%    01.08%         348535992      6537042.00   { QQ }

And with 26x, im taking 58.5% equity in a flash.
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« Reply #22 on: October 08, 2008, 05:45:01 PM »

If he doesnt spike, would this thread be here?
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« Reply #23 on: October 08, 2008, 06:24:23 PM »

If he doesnt spike, would this thread be here?


errr, i think not.
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« Reply #24 on: October 08, 2008, 08:24:07 PM »

lol he has like 26x!  super standard jam here.

seriously? - after an ep raise and ep reraise and little fold equity?

would having 26xBB not make finding a better spot possible

Unless you are complete and utter granite then it might be possible.  Personally i would assume m3boy is opening pretty wide utg into wht is probably a v weak table, so i would be 3betting him with 99+, AJs+, AQo+ absolute minimum, maybe your range is tighter.  But vs that range QQ plays:

   equity    win    tie          pots won    pots tied   
Hand 0:    41.422%     40.34%    01.08%         244545540      6537042.00   { 99+, AJs+, AQo+ }
Hand 1:    58.578%     57.50%    01.08%         348535992      6537042.00   { QQ }

And with 26x, im taking 58.5% equity in a flash.

M3 is a nit though
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« Reply #25 on: October 08, 2008, 08:46:51 PM »

lol he has like 26x!  super standard jam here.

seriously? - after an ep raise and ep reraise and little fold equity?

would having 26xBB not make finding a better spot possible

Unless you are complete and utter granite then it might be possible.  Personally i would assume m3boy is opening pretty wide utg into wht is probably a v weak table, so i would be 3betting him with 99+, AJs+, AQo+ absolute minimum, maybe your range is tighter.  But vs that range QQ plays:

   equity    win    tie          pots won    pots tied   
Hand 0:    41.422%     40.34%    01.08%         244545540      6537042.00   { 99+, AJs+, AQo+ }
Hand 1:    58.578%     57.50%    01.08%         348535992      6537042.00   { QQ }

And with 26x, im taking 58.5% equity in a flash.

standard if your multitabling loads of donkfests online every night. Having sat next to a super rock all day knowing he hasn't played didly all day i'd probably have a think about it with QQ.
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« Reply #26 on: October 08, 2008, 09:02:03 PM »

you have are raising an EP raiser, from EP with a very tight image, investing around 20% of your stack. This is hardly ever tens, hardly ever AQ and i think hardly ever JJ. Hell QQ might even flat here.

QQ is crushed by your range here, and 26bbs is not a desperate stack my no means. He has next to no FE so I think "ThatsSoMinusEV" lmao

When the turn comes a Q, "nice hand", move on next hand
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« Reply #27 on: October 09, 2008, 10:07:46 AM »

lol he has like 26x!  super standard jam here.

seriously? - after an ep raise and ep reraise and little fold equity?

would having 26xBB not make finding a better spot possible

Unless you are complete and utter granite then it might be possible.  Personally i would assume m3boy is opening pretty wide utg into wht is probably a v weak table, so i would be 3betting him with 99+, AJs+, AQo+ absolute minimum, maybe your range is tighter.  But vs that range QQ plays:

   equity    win    tie          pots won    pots tied   
Hand 0:    41.422%     40.34%    01.08%         244545540      6537042.00   { 99+, AJs+, AQo+ }
Hand 1:    58.578%     57.50%    01.08%         348535992      6537042.00   { QQ }

And with 26x, im taking 58.5% equity in a flash.

whilst your reasoning may be correct that has to be arsehole comment of the day when the 9 people on that table have got past 814 other runners - I'm sure a strong player like you must do that live all the time
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« Reply #28 on: October 09, 2008, 10:31:49 AM »

he had played with me all day and I had played nothing worse.

You made the final 4 playing only AA, KK and AK?

this is now a bit pointless so let's end the thread as I said earlier that I had doubled thru' with QQ and that the worst I had been seen to 3 bet with all day was AK. Perhaps if that isn't understandable then I would rather get comments from those who can.


well what is it that you're wanting people to say?

The guy had QQ the 3rd best starting hand. OK a tight player has re-raised so he might give some thought to folding but going all-in is hardly the worst move I've ever seen.

In short I think this is a poorly disguised bad beat story.
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« Reply #29 on: October 09, 2008, 10:52:22 AM »

he had played with me all day and I had played nothing worse.

You made the final 4 playing only AA, KK and AK?

this is now a bit pointless so let's end the thread as I said earlier that I had doubled thru' with QQ and that the worst I had been seen to 3 bet with all day was AK. Perhaps if that isn't understandable then I would rather get comments from those who can.


well what is it that you're wanting people to say?

The guy had QQ the 3rd best starting hand. OK a tight player has re-raised so he might give some thought to folding but going all-in is hardly the worst move I've ever seen.

In short I think this is a poorly disguised bad beat story.

Firstly, I posted not as a bad beat story at all or I would have done it sooner but purely because I wanted views as to the play and they are mixed - fair enough
Secondly, I have been a member for 2 years and have less than 300 posts so don't post just for te sake of it but purely to find out about the play in a hand which is what I thought the PHA forum was for
Thirdly, what I failed to allow for, foolishly, are the number of blondeites who are complete arseholes - my mistake
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