"Dusk till Dawn" Poker Club In Nottingham Diary (by Rob Yong)

[Royal Flush]

Why can this not be heard in another court?

I would imagine it has to be Nottingham Magistrates.

I do not see why.

Arguments will be put foward by both parties, why does it matter where it is held?

I don't know how these things work i would just imagine that to get a local licence you need a local court.

[Harmony26]

Why can this not be heard in another court?

I would imagine it has to be Nottingham Magistrates.

I do not see why.

Arguments will be put foward by both parties, why does it matter where it is held?

I believe only a local Magistrates court can preside over and adjudicate on a situation pertaining to the regulations upheld by the local council.

[Harmony26]

Words fail me re: the decision taken today and the manipulative/bullying tactics/actions of these large corporate concerns.

Thinking of you all and all your hard work.

[ripple11]

                                                   " Gala said they could not make another hearing till March 2008"

 Rob, did they say that with a straight face!!?........

a total disgrace the magistrate didn't say ....." you obviously can't organise a piss up in a brewery,.... you've got 28 days ....see you next month".

 

[da_poker_monkey]

I do not know much anything about the business world or how anything financial works, so please do not read on if you do not entertain idiots and their ideas.  Didn't I read somewhere on Blonde that a club can run poker games and charge a nominal fee if there are no cash prizes on offer?  Since the club is almost complete and you are paying substantial overheads regardless, could you not open as a bar/resteraunt kinda place and maybe run some kind of poker league for points (like the poker in pubs thing?)  Maybe I have the wrong end of the stick just ignore me....I'm just gutted I guess 

[robyong]

Thanks for all your support, especially the guy who send me this PM

hi Rob...........it is heartbreaking to hear the news today for us mere players who wish to frequent your club , i cannot imagine how you must be feeling.is there anything us members of blonde can do to help  ie  set up a petition. if there is , i would be only too pleased to help.

ps  it is only a minute amount , but please retain any rakeback that i accrue. i would much rather it went towards DTD

Although petitions etc would make some PR noise, nothing will change the Magistrate's decision now, I was not even allowed to speak at the hearing this morning, that's how out of control I was about the decision, but thanks for the offers.  There are no more channels I can go through, I am well and truly "snookered" unless, every option is a bad one, I guess I could ditch the whole poker idea and just use the place as a bar/club as  have a 24hr drinking licence and the poker table area would make a great dancefloor......

The sik thing is that I never really believed that the system was really so biased towards the rich corporates, lets face it, if 500 individual people had turned up at Stanleys hearing, would the court have adjorned them, in fact, even sicker, is that their licence sailed through the magistrates courts. My advisors tell me I should not say there type of things publicly, but who cares now? I'm not a guy that lies down and lets anyone kick me, but when when you are being held down by people stronger than you, you just have to take the kicking and try and make the best and quickest recovery possible.

Its been a roller coaster, whether I want to stay on now is the queston I have to really ask myself over the next few days. I mean, things are pretty good for me outside of DTD, so why take all this crap? Also, if this can happen, what if the magistrate court actually reject my licence on September 2007, and I have incurred another £600k?

Cheers Rob

[Jon MW]

Quote from the Office of Fair Trading website: http://www.oft.gov.uk/advice_and_resources/small_businesses/competing/

The law aims to promote healthy competition. It prohibits anti-competitive agreements between firms such as agreements to fix high prices or to carve up markets, and it makes it illegal for companies to abuse a dominant market position.

This filibustering by the Casinos with the aim of delaying long enough for DtD to run out of money seems intuitively to fit this exactly. It may not end up fitting the legal definition so it may come to nothing but it would seem to be an avenue worth exploring.


There is a PDF which explains more.
http://www.oft.gov.uk/shared_oft/business_leaflets/ca98_mini_guides/oft447.pdf

[Ironside]

rob i dont think petitions will help but i do think lobbying MPs,the M&Mc and the press would help and now is a good time with local elections on peoples minds

[Dewi_cool]

I feel absolutley gutted/sick, obviously nothing to the way the dtd team are feeling, so so dissapointing

[Harmony26]

Think you speak for us all, Dewi...

[Colchester Kev]

Media exposure sounds like the way to go forward.

Gutted for Rob and everyone concerned with DTD .... Hope you take your time and take onboard any advice from your legal team before you make any decisions.

I can offer nothing but my support , and would happily be part of any lobby or protest action that is deemed apropriate.

[ariston]

I'd hate to  think the big companies have won rob but you are a businessman at the end of the day. I know you are not a quitter and nobody can fault you for your efforts in all this but surely there must come a time when you have to look at things from a bussinessmans point of view. Don't let the dream ruin your life.

[The_nun]

Sickened for you and your team Rob,don't know what else to say.

[Delboy]

Media exposure sounds like the way to go forward.

Gutted for Rob and everyone concerned with DTD .... Hope you take your time and take onboard any advice from your legal team before you make any decisions.

I can offer nothing but my support , and would happily be part of any lobby or protest action that is deemed apropriate.

 

[robyong]

I'd hate to  think the big companies have won rob but you are a businessman at the end of the day. I know you are not a quitter and nobody can fault you for your efforts in all this but surely there must come a time when you have to look at things from a bussinessmans point of view. Don't let the dream ruin your life.

Russ, its more of "nightmare" than a "dream", but I got myself into this, so I'm cool about the whole thing, ups and downs of taking risks, which are normally not shared in the public domain. Losing to you heads-up is a much worse...