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cia260895
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March 25, 2009, 06:51:19 PM »
ok i should have said in reply to your post,my apologies,
but i havent given him the air rifle i have allowed him to use it in my presence
and fwiw he would be devastated because i took away something he enjoyed ok maybe not devastated but not too impressed
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its uncontrolled because it is not a range, nothing to stop someone rushing out into the line of fire when a parent is looking the other way for example
It would give me kittens to be supervising such activity for my children
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Quote from: TightEnd on March 25, 2009, 06:39:51 PM
but your garden is NOT a controlled environment, nor are many parents the right people (being untrained) the right people to be doing the controlling
and why are you concerned if you son would be devastated over something this minor
? Parenting is about laying down the law on some occasions about some subjects, and explaining why
For me, this would be one such occasion
I think most of us are thinking alike on that. What a kid wants has absolutely nothing to do with the logic of whether it's right or wrong. They are completely, totally, 100%-ly, unrelated matters, & should not be resolved on the basis they are.
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Quote from: cia260895 on March 25, 2009, 06:51:19 PM
ok i should have said in reply to your post,my apologies,
but i havent given him the air rifle i have allowed him to use it in my presence
and fwiw he would be devastated because i took away something he enjoyed ok maybe not devastated but not too impressed
Which makes no difference whatsoever. To the "stray kid" that comes blundering into your garden unexpectedly, it makes no odds whose gun it was that shot him.
He'd "not be too imprressed" that he can't have it? He's a lad, he'll get over it!
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Quote from: TightEnd on March 25, 2009, 06:52:50 PM
its uncontrolled because it is not a range, nothing to stop someone rushing out into the line of fire when a parent is looking the other way for example
It would give me kittens to be supervising such activity for my children
Cant argue that it is not a range but where we stand in the garden there is a trampoline blocking the other side of the garden so absolutely no chance of someone rushing past.hell i didnt even let the other kids in the gardne while we practised
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March 25, 2009, 07:16:32 PM »
invest in airsoft, its safer, the target practice equiptment is cheap and kids will be able to play and shoot each other playing soldier or whatever.
http://www.geniestuff.co.uk/airsoft-targets.htm#
all the safety equiptment is there and its better than exposing kids to the potential threat of a stray air pellet
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Quote from: phatomch on March 25, 2009, 06:14:54 PM
like i say i grew up with them but i was always educated on how to use and to respect them, my brother and I went camping on or own all the time from 12 onwards and that included air riffles, knifes, cooking fires the lot. it's fine if you trust your kids, and with that place the correct guidlines on them using them. Would I trust the youth of today with a gun?? maybe not.
tbh - don't think it's about youth of today versus way back when - 30 years ago when I was a teenager we all used to shoot each other all the time - very dangerous, very stupid but we did it. if peeps have guns I think they eventually want to shoot animate things imo
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Quote from: Newmanseye on March 25, 2009, 07:16:32 PM
invest in airsoft, its safer, the target practice equiptment is cheap and kids will be able to play and shoot each other playing soldier or whatever.
http://www.geniestuff.co.uk/airsoft-targets.htm#
all the safety equiptment is there and its better than exposing kids to the potential threat of a stray air pellet
you sure about kids playing soldiers with these shooting BB pellets at each other??
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March 25, 2009, 07:29:18 PM »
i think the difference is that 20 years ago me and a few mates would go camping, we would be sensible have a little fire with the farmers permission stick up a tent, go out trying to get a few rabbits or rats and everyone had fun but was sensible. Nowadays you would have armed police swooping on a field as some hoodies were armed and squatting in a field whilst trying to burn down a local woods. Society has changed it's views and ideas on what is acceptable.
I am not saying anyone is wrong with their views on here but for me cia has made all the correct means to make this as safe as possible in his garden for all involved or not involved.
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shoot the lot of them with my nail gun.,.,.,.,.,hehehe..,.,
on a serious note.,.,guns are not just for christmas.,.,they are for hurting.,.,thats what they were made for.,..,
ban guns for the world ftw,,,and pea shooters,,,,and anything that hurts,,,especially elastic bands using litte bent peices of metal in the shape of a letter U pinched from the school mesh fence with the wire cutters you smuggled out of metal work class,,,,,,i got expelled for that,,,nearly had my best mates eye out.,.,.,.,its always the eye init.,.,.,.,.,i bet if you had one eye on your elbow and the other situated on your knee,,,i would hit it with a pea shooter or summat.,.,.,ban the eyes for the win.,.,.,.,.,
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March 25, 2009, 07:33:33 PM »
Quote from: cia260895 on March 25, 2009, 07:25:17 PM
Quote from: Newmanseye on March 25, 2009, 07:16:32 PM
invest in airsoft, its safer, the target practice equiptment is cheap and kids will be able to play and shoot each other playing soldier or whatever.
http://www.geniestuff.co.uk/airsoft-targets.htm#
all the safety equiptment is there and its better than exposing kids to the potential threat of a stray air pellet
you sure about kids playing soldiers with these shooting BB pellets at each other??
Providing you buy them the safety equipment for their eyes they will be fine m8, the bb's are harmless and if you ensure they dont firre upon people without the eyewear its fine, the BB's dont hurt m8,
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Quote from: phatomch on March 25, 2009, 07:29:18 PM
i think the difference is that 20 years ago me and a few mates would go camping, we would be sensible have a little fire with the farmers permission stick up a tent, go out trying to get a few rabbits or rats and everyone had fun but was sensible. Nowadays you would have armed police swooping on a field as some hoodies were armed and squatting in a field whilst trying to burn down a local woods. Society has changed it's views and ideas on what is acceptable.
I am not saying anyone is wrong with their views on here but for me cia has made all the correct means to make this as safe as possible in his garden for all involved or not involved.
You might well be right - I'm also sure that cia has done all he can - just not sure about the merit of getting anybody interested in guns for any reason really
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March 25, 2009, 07:36:52 PM »
Quote from: Newmanseye on March 25, 2009, 07:33:33 PM
Quote from: cia260895 on March 25, 2009, 07:25:17 PM
Quote from: Newmanseye on March 25, 2009, 07:16:32 PM
invest in airsoft, its safer, the target practice equiptment is cheap and kids will be able to play and shoot each other playing soldier or whatever.
http://www.geniestuff.co.uk/airsoft-targets.htm#
all the safety equiptment is there and its better than exposing kids to the potential threat of a stray air pellet
you sure about kids playing soldiers with these shooting BB pellets at each other??
Providing you buy them the safety equipment for their eyes they will be fine m8, the bb's are harmless and if you ensure they dont firre upon people without the eyewear its fine, the BB's dont hurt m8,
Dont hurt you jest?? i fixed my brothers Bb gun that he uses when he goes fishing they fooking do hurt,I know he shot me in the arse as i was going up in his loft!!!!!
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March 25, 2009, 07:37:49 PM »
why get anybody interested in anything? everything can kill. Do you stop them for having a bike they could fall off, do you not have a dog because it could flip out and maul them.
as I said earlier guns dont kill people , people do.
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March 25, 2009, 07:40:49 PM »
Quote from: nirvana on March 25, 2009, 07:34:13 PM
Quote from: phatomch on March 25, 2009, 07:29:18 PM
i think the difference is that 20 years ago me and a few mates would go camping, we would be sensible have a little fire with the farmers permission stick up a tent, go out trying to get a few rabbits or rats and everyone had fun but was sensible. Nowadays you would have armed police swooping on a field as some hoodies were armed and squatting in a field whilst trying to burn down a local woods. Society has changed it's views and ideas on what is acceptable.
I am not saying anyone is wrong with their views on here but for me cia has made all the correct means to make this as safe as possible in his garden for all involved or not involved.
You might well be right - I'm also sure that cia has done all he can - just not sure about the merit of getting anybody interested in guns for any reason really
If he hadn't used them at ATC then i probably wouldnt have entertained the idea just for a bit of fun,as that is when accidents do occur,
this was aquired purely for him to practice,and i believe that i am responsible enough to allow its use in my presence,but this aside I AM still unsure as to the continued use of it
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