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« Reply #45 on: March 25, 2009, 06:11:20 PM »

I am wobbling but just dont know which way i'll topple as of yet.

am still none the better off,

Being in the line of work that I am I am always a safety 1st type of guy,not irresponsible and not willing to put anyones life in danger Sure there is both sides to this but I just dont know which 1 to take,if i stop it Charlie would be devastated as he really enjoys it,and as long as i in control I am sure that there would be no problems.Definitely going to the gun academy for further advice gudance.

BUT there is always that chance,

like other have said people get killed riding bikes and all sorts, hey they can even get crippled playing sports but that doesnt stop them doing it

OH i DUNNO

What has that got to do with it? He'll get over it!

Being told "no" can be a good thing for kids.

It has a bearing on it Tony although not huge it does have a bearing on it,yeah I know he'll get over it but if all precautions are put in place then surely it would be  a safe pastime,like i said before people can get crippled playing a lot of different sports but we dont stop them as we dont want to wrap them up in cotton wool.

trust me i am not 100% one way or the other atm

How about a compromise - take him paintballing?

 I would never reccomend paintball for kids, as some of the "owned" equipment can be very powerful, Kids just should not have to take a short didtance hit from a long range weapon.

Might i suggest Airsoft, airsoft does not have the hurt or the sting or bruises attached to it like Paintball has, its a great way to break kids in to the games and its powerful enough to feel but not so much to damage you in any way like paintball can when accidents happen.

local paintball centres will offer airsoft games and the Guns and BB's are quite cheap.

BTW i love Paintball, i have all of my own equiptment, nut i would never put my chil;dren in at the deep end  as i know how it feels when someone mis-chronos their marker.
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« Reply #46 on: March 25, 2009, 06:13:29 PM »

Right before this starts to get dragged into the usual slagging match lets not start calling people irresponsible or uneducated
everyone will have their opinion on whats right or wrong and like i have said b4 i am not 100% 1 way or the other yet.

FWIW I got the air rifle for him to practise on so that he would be a better shot when he does it again at ATC not as a toy

Yes Trace he enjoys paintballing and i do take him for days out with his friends but this isnt about having a fun time this is for practice for something he will be doing more and more the longer he goes to ATC
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« Reply #47 on: March 25, 2009, 06:14:54 PM »

like i say i grew up with them but i was always educated on how to use and to respect them, my brother and I went camping on or own all the time from 12 onwards and that included air riffles, knifes, cooking fires the lot. it's fine if you trust your kids, and with that place the correct guidlines on them using them. Would I trust the youth of today with a gun?? maybe not.
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« Reply #48 on: March 25, 2009, 06:15:53 PM »


Amen to the Posts by Jakally & Scottish Dave.

I'm not a Parent, & never have geen, so I guess my view is not very relevant, but the mere thought of giving kids weapons is something I find totally abhorrent.

why not? you are just as entitled to have a view without having any kids


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« Reply #49 on: March 25, 2009, 06:17:22 PM »

Right before this starts to get dragged into the usual slagging match lets not start calling people irresponsible or uneducated
everyone will have their opinion on whats right or wrong and like i have said b4 i am not 100% 1 way or the other yet.

FWIW I got the air rifle for him to practise on so that he would be a better shot when he does it again at ATC not as a toy

Yes Trace he enjoys paintballing and i do take him for days out with his friends but this isnt about having a fun time this is for practice for something he will be doing more and more the longer he goes to ATC

If that relates to my comment, then apologies - wasn't intended as a personal dig at anyone.

However, trying to compare the number of car accidents, with the number of gun accidents, given their relative usages, is a little unfair.
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« Reply #50 on: March 25, 2009, 06:20:26 PM »

Right before this starts to get dragged into the usual slagging match lets not start calling people irresponsible or uneducated
everyone will have their opinion on whats right or wrong and like i have said b4 i am not 100% 1 way or the other yet.

FWIW I got the air rifle for him to practise on so that he would be a better shot when he does it again at ATC not as a toy

Yes Trace he enjoys paintballing and i do take him for days out with his friends but this isnt about having a fun time this is for practice for something he will be doing more and more the longer he goes to ATC

If that relates to my comment, then apologies - wasn't intended as a personal dig at anyone.

However, trying to compare the number of car accidents, with the number of gun accidents, given their relative usages, is a little unfair.


Not just directed at you m8 just would like an open debate without the usual slagging

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« Reply #51 on: March 25, 2009, 06:21:12 PM »


BTW CIA, I may not agree with your view, but it's a very interesting debate - good thread.
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« Reply #52 on: March 25, 2009, 06:28:02 PM »

It's Dewi's thread not mine...
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« Reply #53 on: March 25, 2009, 06:28:08 PM »


Amen to the Posts by Jakally & Scottish Dave.

I'm not a Parent, & never have geen, so I guess my view is not very relevant, but the mere thought of giving kids weapons is something I find totally abhorrent.

why not? you are just as entitled to have a view without having any kids




It's less relevant. because I've never experienced parenting.

I know, 100%, I'd NEVER, while I had a hole in my arse, give my kids, or any other kids, guns or offensive weapons.

But the "Charlie would be devestated" line is the thing. As a non-Parent, I can just scoff, & say "so what?", but Parents have heartstrings, which get tugged. And those heartstrings, if I may make so bold, affect rational judgement.

In the cold light of day, if this were not your kid, & you'd read about that Kid round the corner, in Hayes, who'd been killed by an air-rifle (one wonders how his Dad feels today?), you would say "Give guns to kids? - NO WAY".
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« Reply #54 on: March 25, 2009, 06:30:47 PM »


Amen to the Posts by Jakally & Scottish Dave.

I'm not a Parent, & never have geen, so I guess my view is not very relevant, but the mere thought of giving kids weapons is something I find totally abhorrent.

why not? you are just as entitled to have a view without having any kids




It's less relevant. because I've never experienced parenting.

I know, 100%, I'd NEVER, while I had a hole in my arse, give my kids, or any other kids, guns or offensive weapons.

But the "Charlie would be devestated" line is the thing. As a non-Parent, I can just scoff, & say "so what?", but Parents have heartstrings, which get tugged. And those heartstrings, if I may make so bold, affect rational judgement.

In the cold light of day, if this were not your kid, & you'd read about that Kid round the corner, in Hayes, who'd been killed by an air-rifle (one wonders how his Dad feels today?), you would say "Give guns to kids? - NO WAY".
intersting side to the topic will defer comment for a few minutes gonna think for a bit
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« Reply #55 on: March 25, 2009, 06:37:02 PM »

Right in answer to your question Tony which is a bit 1 sided, Giving guns to kids and letting them use them in a controlled enviroment is just not the same thing,but in light of what happened I think i would allow the use of the air rifle in a controlled enviroment,with supervision.
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« Reply #56 on: March 25, 2009, 06:38:14 PM »

I have shed loads of opinions, but this subject is so multi faceted that for every argument there will be an equally compelling counter argument.

I daren't comment, cos I'll be at it all night.
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« Reply #57 on: March 25, 2009, 06:39:51 PM »

but your garden is NOT a controlled environment, nor are many parents the right people (being untrained) the right people to be doing the controlling

and why are you concerned if you son would be devastated over something this minor? Parenting is about laying down the law on some occasions about some subjects, and explaining why

For me, this would be one such occasion
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« Reply #58 on: March 25, 2009, 06:48:47 PM »

Right in answer to your question Tony which is a bit 1 sided, Giving guns to kids and letting them use them in a controlled enviroment is just not the same thing,but in light of what happened I think i would allow the use of the air rifle in a controlled enviroment,with supervision.

I don't recall asking a question.

One-sided? I give up!

I Posted, earlier, that debates about guns are always totally divisive, the world over, & so they are. I'm stating one side of the argument, you the other. BOTH our arguments are one-sided - can you not see that?

I am NEVER going to see the good in guns for kids, end of story. If that's one-sided, so be it. You think it wise to give your kid an air-rifle, partly because he'd be "devestated" if you say no, which I consider irrelevant. So be it.

Let's agree to differ.
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« Reply #59 on: March 25, 2009, 06:48:59 PM »

but your garden is NOT a controlled environment, nor are many parents the right people (being untrained) the right people to be doing the controlling

and why are you concerned if you son would be devastated over something this minor? Parenting is about laying down the law on some occasions about some subjects, and explaining why

For me, this would be one such occasion

what is not controlled about it? there is only 1 entrance,

Dont get me wrong i am not a lightweight parent who cant say no to my kids beleive me having an autistic kid i say NO quite a bit knowing their would be an almighty kickoff.It wouldnt be the deciding factor in my decision but it would have a part,If i was to stop the use of it Charlie is'nt the type of kid who would kick off he would accept my decision and move on.
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