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Topic: Staking - Betfair Football Trading (Read 398732 times)
EvilPie
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Re: Staking - Betfair Football Trading
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Reply #315 on:
October 01, 2009, 12:34:45 AM »
Quote from: Horneris on September 30, 2009, 11:03:37 PM
I wonder how much Neil will scoop on the Everton match tomorrow.
Big amounts matched on them @ 1.6 and 1.61. now they are 1.68 and drifting even further as we speak as news came to light that 9 players are injured.
The thing I don't get is this. If everton are drifting out surely the other team are drifting in.
Although there hasn't been a loss yet surely it has to be possible if the drift goes the wrong way??
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Re: Staking - Betfair Football Trading
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October 01, 2009, 12:48:32 AM »
50 : 50 you win or you dont?
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Horneris
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Re: Staking - Betfair Football Trading
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Reply #317 on:
October 01, 2009, 01:37:55 AM »
Quote from: EvilPie on October 01, 2009, 12:34:45 AM
Quote from: Horneris on September 30, 2009, 11:03:37 PM
I wonder how much Neil will scoop on the Everton match tomorrow.
Big amounts matched on them @ 1.6 and 1.61. now they are 1.68 and drifting even further as we speak as news came to light that 9 players are injured.
The thing I don't get is this. If everton are drifting out surely the other team are drifting in.
Although there hasn't been a loss yet surely it has to be possible if the drift goes the wrong way??
Definetly. Although in this circumstance, it was pretty clear that 1.6 was too short on Everton when less than a year ago in the Champions League BATE drew twice with Juve, lost 1-0 to Real and beat Anderlecht 2-1 and Everton have 9 first team players out injured. And it will be a freezing cold night in Belarus. Cue a 5-0 Everton win now ive said that.
Neils just too good to get it wrong.
Or personally as im praying, he actually has £0 left and this is just the best grim in Blonde history when he claims youve all gone multai and buggers off.
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Re: Staking - Betfair Football Trading
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Reply #318 on:
October 01, 2009, 02:24:35 AM »
Quote from: Horneris on October 01, 2009, 01:37:55 AM
Quote from: EvilPie on October 01, 2009, 12:34:45 AM
Quote from: Horneris on September 30, 2009, 11:03:37 PM
I wonder how much Neil will scoop on the Everton match tomorrow.
Big amounts matched on them @ 1.6 and 1.61. now they are 1.68 and drifting even further as we speak as news came to light that 9 players are injured.
The thing I don't get is this. If everton are drifting out surely the other team are drifting in.
Although there hasn't been a loss yet surely it has to be possible if the drift goes the wrong way??
Definetly. Although in this circumstance, it was pretty clear that 1.6 was too short on Everton when less than a year ago in the Champions League BATE drew twice with Juve, lost 1-0 to Real and beat Anderlecht 2-1 and Everton have 9 first team players out injured. And it will be a freezing cold night in Belarus. Cue a 5-0 Everton win now ive said that.
Neils just too good to get it wrong.
Or personally as im praying, he actually has £0 left and this is just the best grim in Blonde history when he claims youve all gone multai and buggers off.
Already worked it out with Stu and Matt, he is going to pay everyone out like 200% at end of the year so next season people are lumping in 6 digits, then he will do the runner, i will salute the man.
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Re: Staking - Betfair Football Trading
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Reply #319 on:
October 01, 2009, 02:48:29 AM »
Quote from: Royal Flush on October 01, 2009, 02:24:35 AM
Quote from: Horneris on October 01, 2009, 01:37:55 AM
Quote from: EvilPie on October 01, 2009, 12:34:45 AM
Quote from: Horneris on September 30, 2009, 11:03:37 PM
I wonder how much Neil will scoop on the Everton match tomorrow.
Big amounts matched on them @ 1.6 and 1.61. now they are 1.68 and drifting even further as we speak as news came to light that 9 players are injured.
The thing I don't get is this. If everton are drifting out surely the other team are drifting in.
Although there hasn't been a loss yet surely it has to be possible if the drift goes the wrong way??
Definetly. Although in this circumstance, it was pretty clear that 1.6 was too short on Everton when less than a year ago in the Champions League BATE drew twice with Juve, lost 1-0 to Real and beat Anderlecht 2-1 and Everton have 9 first team players out injured. And it will be a freezing cold night in Belarus. Cue a 5-0 Everton win now ive said that.
Neils just too good to get it wrong.
Or personally as im praying, he actually has £0 left and this is just the best grim in Blonde history when he claims youve all gone multai and buggers off.
Already worked it out with Stu and Matt, he is going to pay everyone out like 200% at end of the year so next season people are lumping in
6 digits
, then he will do the runner, i will salute the man.
Im trying to impress you so I can get away with nicking 7 digits minimum
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Re: Staking - Betfair Football Trading
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October 01, 2009, 05:59:14 AM »
if u had placed a £4000 lay of everton @ 1.6 earlier today.
your liability would be £2400
if u now had £3576 on everton @ 1.79 your return would be £2,825.
Thereby guaranteeing a profit of £425 if they won
and a profit on your stake if they didnt of £424
Therefore guaranteeing a profit of at least £424 whatever the outcome.
(not taking commission into account).
So sick.
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Re: Staking - Betfair Football Trading
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October 01, 2009, 08:55:53 AM »
But the impressive thing is, he has never been wrong about the price movement.
I don't want to brag, but I'm 100% sure I could make a healthy profit doing what Blatch is doing.
But I'm equally 100% sure I would get the market wrong about 25% of the time and lose money on several individual games.
The fact he is NEVER wrong is breathtakingly impressive.
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Re: Staking - Betfair Football Trading
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Reply #322 on:
October 01, 2009, 09:14:50 AM »
Quote from: Horneris on October 01, 2009, 05:59:14 AM
if u had placed a £4000 lay of everton @ 1.6 earlier today.
your liability would be £2400
if u now had £3576 on everton @ 1.79 your return would be £2,825.
Thereby guaranteeing a profit of £425 if they won
and a profit on your stake if they didnt of £424
Therefore guaranteeing a profit of at least £424 whatever the outcome.
(not taking commission into account).
So sick.
Am I missing something here? what happens if they draw?
Can we ignore that because we collect the stake on the lay bet?
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Re: Staking - Betfair Football Trading
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Reply #323 on:
October 01, 2009, 09:27:51 AM »
Quote from: david3103 on October 01, 2009, 09:14:50 AM
Quote from: Horneris on October 01, 2009, 05:59:14 AM
if u had placed a £4000 lay of everton @ 1.6 earlier today.
your liability would be £2400
if u now had £3576 on everton @ 1.79 your return would be £2,825.
Thereby guaranteeing a profit of £425 if they won
and a profit on your stake if they didnt of £424
Therefore guaranteeing a profit of at least £424 whatever the outcome.
(not taking commission into account).
So sick.
Am I missing something here? what happens if they draw?
Can we ignore that because we collect the stake on the lay bet?
yes.
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chrisbruce
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Re: Staking - Betfair Football Trading
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Reply #324 on:
October 01, 2009, 09:33:52 AM »
An example of how to make money trading football
I back team A for £1000 at Odds of 2.1
If team A win I collect £2100
The price moves in and I now lay Team A
For £1000 at odds of 2.0
If Team A Wins I have to pay out £2000
I have now made £100 profit on Team A winning.
My position is now
Team A wins +£100
Team B Wins £ nil
Draw £ nil
I now lay Team A for £50 at 2.00
My position is now
Team A wins +£ 50
Team B Wins +£ 50
Draw +£ 50
This is a simple example of how it works, in reality you use software such as ‘Betangel’ to do the sums for you and help with greening your position.
If you know which way the price will move you can make money.
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Re: Staking - Betfair Football Trading
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October 01, 2009, 09:37:15 AM »
Quote from: The Camel on October 01, 2009, 08:55:53 AM
But the impressive thing is, he has never been wrong about the price movement.
I don't want to brag, but I'm 100% sure I could make a healthy profit doing what Blatch is doing.
But I'm equally 100% sure I would get the market wrong about 25% of the time and lose money on several individual games.
The fact he is NEVER wrong is breathtakingly impressive.
Do you not feel like a lie in!?
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Re: Staking - Betfair Football Trading
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Reply #326 on:
October 01, 2009, 09:58:11 AM »
Quote from: The Camel on October 01, 2009, 08:55:53 AM
But the impressive thing is, he has never been wrong about the price movement.
I don't want to brag, but I'm 100% sure I could make a healthy profit doing what Blatch is doing.
But I'm equally 100% sure I would get the market wrong about 25% of the time and lose money on several individual games.
The fact he is NEVER wrong is breathtakingly impressive.
This is the thing I was getting at yesterday. Tuesday I lay Arsenal at 1.27 and cry as they start to shorten, yesterday I back Chelsea at 1.36 and again cry as the market goes out! Seriously, how is 1.27 too big and 1.36 too short? I can't get it right.
Blatch knows, he'd da man
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Re: Staking - Betfair Football Trading
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Reply #327 on:
October 01, 2009, 10:14:24 AM »
Like Camel says i think i can work out about 75% of the time which way the market is going to move.
It is just amazing that since the start of the season Blatch has not got one wrong!!!
Fair play to the guy - he certainly knows what he is doing.
[ x ] i am determined to work out how he does it
[ ] I will work out how he does it before i do my betfair roll
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Reply #328 on:
October 01, 2009, 10:22:32 AM »
I struggle to even login to betfair, so I just hope Blatch will do this next season (for a cut/fee of course)
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Re: Staking - Betfair Football Trading
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Reply #329 on:
October 01, 2009, 11:43:40 AM »
Quote from: Horneris on September 30, 2009, 11:03:37 PM
I wonder how much Neil will scoop on the Everton match tomorrow.
Big amounts matched on them @ 1.6 and 1.61. now they are 1.68 and drifting even further as we speak as news came to light that 9 players are injured.
damm i wondered why they were availaible at 1.77
wish i had read this before putting my whole roll on them
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