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« on: February 08, 2010, 09:45:47 AM » |
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Just a general line check as at the time I wasn't entirely sure what the best course of action was. Early days in the tournament. Still in the 25/50 level. Everyone involved has about the 10k starting stack. No big reads on villains yet. Button has been reasonably aggressive, not seen anything from blinds. Folds to hero in the cutoff who has KINGS. He raises to 150. The button and both blinds call and we see a flop of:    The blinds both check and Hero fires in a bet of 425. The button and the SB fold but the big blind calls. Turn:  BB checks. Hero  Should I be betting here? If so, how much? Or should we be checking behind? |
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StuartHopkin
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« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2010, 11:06:00 AM » |
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We cant win the pot by checking.
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chrisbruce
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« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2010, 12:09:07 PM » |
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Pretty neat of the sb to check when he has already passed on the flop.
Firing the turn alll day long.
If he Re raises its an easy pass.
If he floats again an easy fold to any river bets unless you improve.
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« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2010, 01:14:20 PM » |
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I am checking behind the turn.
Betting achieves very little in this spot, you get called/raised by a lot of stuff you are behind to and very little you actually beat. Much prefer to check behind for pot control and re asses the river, calling sometimes depending on river card/size of bet etc.
People who are betting here are you doing it for value or as a bluff?
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pleno1
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« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2010, 01:44:46 PM » |
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check behind turn. fold most rivers.
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Worst playcalling I have ever seen. Bunch of fucking jokers . Run the bloody ball. 18 rushes all game? You have to be kidding me. Fuck off lol
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AlexMartin
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« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2010, 04:20:58 PM » |
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why on earth would we bet this turn? to let 45dd decide to checkraise us?
check back turn, let him spaz/vbet thinnish river
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pleno1
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« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2010, 09:19:02 AM » |
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Was thinking about this today, are we only ever checking behind on the turn here with one pair hands/air? All two pairs/sets/straights we are building a pot with. So it's definetely optimal for villain to always bet the river? Do we need to balance our range, or is this a spot where it's not necessary?
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Worst playcalling I have ever seen. Bunch of fucking jokers . Run the bloody ball. 18 rushes all game? You have to be kidding me. Fuck off lol
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EvilPie
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« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2010, 04:22:51 PM » |
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I'm only betting this if I'm out of position.
Check turn. Call river.
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StuartHopkin
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« Reply #8 on: February 09, 2010, 04:31:05 PM » |
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Im still prefering betting 1k on the turn.
Yeah were probably turning our hand into a bluff, but there is no way he is checking the river if we check the turn and then were calling off about the same with no idea where we are?
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LeKnave
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« Reply #9 on: February 09, 2010, 05:08:57 PM » |
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Im still prefering betting 1k on the turn.
Yeah were probably turning our hand into a bluff, but there is no way he is checking the river if we check the turn and then were calling off about the same with no idea where we are?
by checking we get random bluff stabs entering his range for the river. this sure happens if we b/fold the turn. |
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« Reply #10 on: February 09, 2010, 05:23:49 PM » |
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i'd check the turn for sure, can't really think of a good reason to bet here
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gatso
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« Reply #11 on: February 09, 2010, 05:27:12 PM » |
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We cant win the pot by checking.
pretty sure we can if we have the best hand easy decision to check here |
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« Reply #12 on: February 09, 2010, 05:40:16 PM » |
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If you bet the turn after betting the flop what hand are you representing? You present an invitation to be c-raised because if you liked the flop you can't really like the turn most of the time.
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EvilPie
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« Reply #13 on: February 09, 2010, 05:52:25 PM » |
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If we fire the turn we then have to carry on the bluff and fire the river hoping he'll lay down a weak ace.
He's not calling without an ace but if he's good he might just check raise us on the river putting us in a world of pain.
We've got position in a small pot in the early stages. No need to let this get out of hand.
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pleno1
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« Reply #14 on: February 09, 2010, 06:44:23 PM » |
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If we fire the turn we then have to carry on the bluff and fire the river hoping he'll lay down a weak ace.
He's not calling without an ace but if he's good he might just check raise us on the river putting us in a world of pain.
We've got position in a small pot in the early stages. No need to let this get out of hand.
He calls turn with more than just a naked ace imo. diamonds, pair and draw etc. |
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Worst playcalling I have ever seen. Bunch of fucking jokers . Run the bloody ball. 18 rushes all game? You have to be kidding me. Fuck off lol
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