Discussions about: Staking - Betfair Football Trading

[Simon Galloway]

Hi Guys - ARBBOY here on gf's account
 I am going to be classy about this...

[ X ] Epic fail.

You weren't classy then, and you aren't now.  The fact that you are up to speed on betfair isn't how class is measured.

[the sicilian]

Blatch you have always implied or laid claims to a somewhat "balla" status but now claim you have no assets other than a little car and clearly no funds at hand to make any size of a downpayment to the investors?

So all these claims were fiction?

I understand these are slightly personal questions but I would guess most people invested in this scheme on the back of that image you had and in you yourself rather than actually knowing and fully understanding what you were going to be doing/how you would be doing it etc.

Walter Mitty syndrome imo

[arbgirl]

I dont want to say anymore on the matter but i will answer that point.  The only reason i ever got involved in the first place was to ask why blatch had missed the biggest gamble of the world cup.  Timing of this is totally coincidental and i can 150% gtd that i had no involvement in the fund or have ever even spoken to blatch apart from the 'needle' in the cash game a year or so ago at dtd which was nothing to do with this because this fund hadnt even started.

[a.sparrow]

Blatch you have always implied or laid claims to a somewhat "balla" status but now claim you have no assets other than a little car and clearly no funds at hand to make any size of a downpayment to the investors?

So all these claims were fiction?

I understand these are slightly personal questions but I would guess most people invested in this scheme on the back of that image you had and in you yourself rather than actually knowing and fully understanding what you were going to be doing/how you would be doing it etc.

Walter Mitty syndrome imo

I'm not sure if its ethical or not to post pm's but Blatch also said to me here was completeing on a house recently so im guessing that was a lie too.  

'If you need it early still when I do withdraw once I know the final total ill see if I have enough spare cash floating around to send straight away out of my account and ill keep your share when it clears.

Sadly cant do that at mo as hoping to complete on a house very soon.'

Honestly i feel for the guy, no one wants to be in his shoes, but i also understand its all his own doing.  Its the gamblers mentality to chase.  But saying that I still think everything needs to be out in the open here hence posting this pm. mods please delete if its wrong.

[GreekStein]

Those who have sent me their email addresses have now been sent the account history I received from Neil.

Simon G - I'll pm you later with my mobile number or msn.

[GreekStein]

Ok any more questions from anyone, feel free to ring/msn me or pm.

I can leave the office at 4.15 on a friday. Marvellous.

[The Baron]

Hi Guys - ARBBOY here on gf's account

I am totally in shock regarding this and still not 100% certain its not a wind up to suck me back in.  I am going to be classy about this even though i could easily expect a zillion sorry's from everyone on here.  Quite surprising given how i was told how unclassy i was pretty much everything i said has happened and more in a 'Barings Bank' disaster.  When people say i am a random i would have thought u would realise that i play all major uk poker events and several people have confirmed that i have been a pro punter/bookmaker for 10 years.  Its not like most of you havent come across me.  I dont think anyone who knows me well didnt totally agree with everything i was saying.  I can smell a rat a mile away in this game and the longer Blatch stalled on his answers the most obvious something like this was brewing.  I had no idea it was of this level.  I feel so sorry for everyone involved genuinely as i said before in previous posts things like this are not good for my business 'gambling'.  Its my livelihood as it is many peoples on here.  Things like this happening are a lose/lose for everyone.  Even someone like me who could easily say 'i told you so etc etc'.  

I would expect my forum rights to be restored as the only reason i kept banging on about this was for the fear something like this could happen.  I know i was repeating myself but the bottom line is i have been proved right although i dont get any satisfaction at all from it.  I will come into contact with most of you at DTD/gukpts etc etc on a monthly basis and i would appreciate it if no one ever brings this up and needles me either in a positive or negative way.  Its an awful situation for everyone if its 100% genuine and not a wind up.  I think the thread has gone on long enough now today for it to be serious.  I am a chartered accountant by trade with experience in auditing during my training.  The guy that suggested an audit of the account would probably find me to be the best qualified person to do this although i wouldnt really want to tbh.  I doubt anyone would want me to giving the previous threads but anyone who knows me knows i am 100% professional and if you guys did want me to do it i probably would.  Its up to you.


I dont really know what else to say.  Blatch it was never ever personal mate whatever you choose to think regarding the investment fund.  The wind up at dtd was different and maybe wrong.  However all the conerns i made on here were genuine regarding people investing real cash and their rights.  All the best in the future and i hope you can repay everyone although relaistically i am not sure how possible that will be in the short/medium term if ever.

See you around guys at dtd and elsewhere
MArk Wilson (arbboy)

Forgive me for being skeptical here but you came out of the woodwork just before Blatch owns up to being busto and now hinting at viewing the account.  I do not know your or blatch in person and i am not trying to question your integrity but considering whats happened i can't help it.

Agree

[Simon Galloway]

Im still not 100% certain what your asking in 5 but yes some of the losses werent infactual truth.  It was to reduce the account balance and therefore I had to win less back.   I know this whole thing is one serious mess up and I really want to turn this round and get people their money back.

This is the bit that for me that is damning.  That's fairly cold and calculated deception, rather than "oh fuck what time is it, shit, now what" heat of the moment decisions.

So onto the payback.  What is the plan?

Suggesting:

1. We have a table of who is owed what (can use "Anon1, Anon2" where needed but someone needs to know who they are)
2. There is an agreed order of payback - e.g. the WSOP stake first, then late investors, then original investors.  (I'm not saying that has to be the order, I mean it can't just be "Fred gets paid first as he shouted loudest/is my friend.."  ~ all those in the same group should get whatever is available at the time pro rated to them.

[outragous76]

Simon

Payback is a really difficult issue for me. I am inclined to say that the smallest stakers should get there's first just to reduce the list! How many stakers are less than 200?

I know the guys in deep won't appreciate this sentiment, but blatch must be able to get a semi good paying job. Then if you get rid of the small stakers, then the guys who are in deep can come to some sort of arrangement. Just a thought.

An administration style payback for everyone would be the fair way, but I'm sure everyone would agree that getting back 20 quid a month is pointless

[celtic]

LOL at people thinking they are gonna get paid back.

[TheChipPrince]

LOL at people thinking they are gonna get paid back.

exactly, close friends may get some, everyone else he ain't gonna give a shit about.

[celtic]

LOL at people thinking they are gonna get paid back.

exactly, close friends may get some, everyone else he ain't gonna give a shit about.

England -£70,000

Draw     -£70,000

Algeria  - £70,000


Liquid

[treefella]

lol

[outragous76]

Not sure its a time for jokes yet guys

[celtic]

Not sure its a time for jokes yet guys

Biggest joke i've seen on here Guy is the people that are saying the feel for Neil and they hope he gets it sorted. Can't believe the love he is still receiving on here. Makes me sick. Friends of mine, people i like & Greekstein have money involved in this. It isn't really funny no, but then it isn't really appropriate to be showing love to Blatch.