Discussions about: Staking - Betfair Football Trading

[Longy]

If Blatch had sole control of the account why would he bother moving the money from one account to another?

Why not simply withdraw from the trading account?

because he's  degenerate and needed to gamble and was busto i'm guessing.

He was gambing with the investors account anyway, so I am not sure that makes sense. My guess would be somehow to cover the paper trail, by dumping it to another betfair account and then withdrawing from there. Just makes it a hell of a lot harder (as we are finding out) to find where the money went.

[JustinTime]

maybe im a bit slow (obv) and have the wrong end of the stick here - but if there is history of losing 5K bets matched at 1.01, is there anyway to see who the user(s) was that matched it ?

Betfair can tell exactly who\account the money was matched to.

[LeedsRhodesy]

maybe im a bit slow (obv) and have the wrong end of the stick here - but if there is history of losing 5K bets matched at 1.01, is there anyway to see who the user(s) was that matched it ?

would strike me as being a good way to bleed money out of the 'blonde' account..

He quite possibly did, but more than likely this money was either done in on his own account or withdrawn and used to go on nights out, buy himself into £500/£1k tourneys, cash games, staking, rent, 1k roulette spins, lapdances, petrol for the fiesta, holidays etc

Same with any money people transferred him on a poker site, most likely lost in the 1st cash game he could find.

sorry i have to lol @ Petrol for the Fiesta

[damo66688]

If Blatch had sole control of the account why would he bother moving the money from one account to another?

Why not simply withdraw from the trading account?

Probably Keith because his initial thought was to skim off of the top until it went skew whiff

[djsunset]

LOL @ the idea betfair returns the commision, you obviously haven't had much contact with this company have you?

erm,...  i, erm, obviously, can't have done,...

for what its worth if 120k has been fiddled out of people's accounts, if i was betdaq, wbx or whoever, and i'd made say 5 or 6k of commission on a big nasty fiddle like this, i would suspend Blatch's accounts immediately, and ask him to disclose the total pot invested in it, and who the stakeholders were in it percentage-wise.  i would then allocate that 5 or 6k proportionately to the victims, in exchange for them signing forms saying that they weren't allowed to discuss anywhere on forums or with the media that they had been given this rebate.  

it would be a nice gesture, and it would be the correct one. the point of doing it behind the scenes would be a way of avoiding unwittingly displaying culpability or complicity in the grimming, from thick journalists or less cerebrally-gifted bloggers or forum posters.  

[damo66688]

BAN THESE PEOPLE WHO HAVE JUST JOINED POSTING

sont be fucking stupid Dubai the more that see the better so this ***** cannot continue.  I was rought here because of this and although not a member on hereI started the Facebook group to war others as no one else wuld start one and do you know what I saw?

Every member from blond that joined the group I had at least 5 common friends............so if some ***** like this can doa  lng con then it is likely all that come here know someone effedted one way or the other and better everyone knows within the circuits than a select few.    

We are all adult enough to read through the arbboy arse licking and so called jovial jokes but the more exposure the better FOR OUR COMMUNITY!!

Yes im definitely the person who is stupid.

lame reply mate

[Dubai]

I cant understand what u have wrote. What do u expect?

[The Camel]

LOL @ the idea betfair returns the commision, you obviously haven't had much contact with this company have you?

erm,...  i, erm, obviously, can't have done,...

for what its worth if 120k has been fiddled out of people's accounts, if i was betdaq, wbx or whoever, and i'd made say 5 or 6k of commission on a big nasty fiddle like this, i would suspend Blatch's accounts immediately, and ask him to disclose the total pot invested in it, and who the stakeholders were in it percentage-wise.  i would then allocate that 5 or 6k proportionately to the victims, in exchange for them signing forms saying that they weren't allowed to discuss anywhere on forums or with the media that they had been given this rebate.  

it would be a nice gesture, and it would be the correct one. the point of doing it behind the scenes would be a way of avoiding unwittingly displaying culpability or complicity in the grimming, from thick journalists or less cerebrally-gifted bloggers or forum posters.  

Yes, of course it would be nice.

The two £5k's at 1.01 is a monkey right there.

From the loooks of things 5 or 6k is probably an underestimate.

But I would be totally shocked if Betfair gave this money back.

[Dubai]

DJSunset has been on betfair for years. He knows how bad the customer service has got recently im sure.

[damo66688]

I cant understand what u have wrote. What do u expect?

You say new members should be locked I dont see what that gains??  The more new signups the better? Surely?

I am not a member of blonde but a member of Gutshot, THMF, PL, Betfair etc etc and I have posted this on their sites and some of them remember him from old and have added positively to this thread.

Surely thmore that are exposed t this the less that are exposed to his going ons?  As flops has shown it was a long con from the start?

We are verydifferent to most communities where we place a lot of respect and trust in people, even more so when they hit a big score and those that do are more likely to grim from us down below.  

The more exposure is surely better than none at all?

[djsunset]

the 5k at 1.01 money transfer won't be returned.  it was a transfer from neil blatchly, to himself.  the only issue with that is why whoever was supposed to be stopping money transfers seemingly failed to do their job, and how many other times they have failed.  

the reported 8k commission on the other hand is from skulduggery and misuse of the exchanges, which in turn provided both the cover story and facilitated (unwittingly) the grimming scam.  there are people suffering out there, and 8k from a 120k pot returned would be a legitimate and honourable course of action.  it is definitely what i would do, and i hope there is enough sympathy for genuine victims of the scam to warrant quietly returning a small part of the money they have lost. it obviously wouldn't be fair if the victims were down 120k from this, whilst an exchange actually profitted to the tune of 8k from neil blatchly's scam.

i haven't got any pro or anti agenda, but i do feel for GreekStein having to tell his dad - on father's day - that he's just lost him a small fortune. 

[Dubai]

I cant understand what u have wrote. What do u expect?

*written

Haha. Maybe i am the stupid one.

[Ginger]

Have just spoken to one of the Admins, unfortunately it looks like all new members will not receive their validation email until tomorrow.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

[The Camel]

DJSunset has been on betfair for years. He knows how bad the customer service has got recently im sure.

I don't think returning the commish would be a customer service matter, it would be for management to decide.

And they are worse than the CS imo.

[djsunset]

DJSunset has been on betfair for years. He knows how bad the customer service has got recently im sure.

I don't think returning the commish would be a customer service matter, it would be for management to decide.

And they are worse than the CS imo.

yeah, it would definitely be a management decision.  its up to them of course, but if i was them, i'd think the 8k profit was dirty money, and would look to return it.  the goodwill that would generate would be significant.  its up to them of course, perhaps if someone with more weight than lil' ol' me has could give them a nudge, it would be great to hear that GreekStein's old man ended up with say a couple of hundred quid back.