Discussions about: Staking - Betfair Football Trading

[Girgy85]

Good investigating Chris, can the new thread you've created be locked to stop the crap being posted by any chance? 

Yea good work Flops!

[iwillwinlots]

can anyone pm me blatch's address and phone number please?

same here

[NoflopsHomer]

Good investigating Chris, can the new thread you've created be locked to stop the crap being posted by any chance? 

I have no power over this, but it might be a good idea. Though not until after someone has posted the link for the spreadsheet so people can look at the figures themselves. I also have a second part to put up which I'm working on now.

[adammarkpreston]

Good work there noflops im stilll going through it getting the profit/loss from each and every bet he placed on, you are writing it much better than i could come out with though

[sovietsong]

lock thread pls.  no point in letting another 5 pages of shit happen over night.

incred cliff notes by the way noflopshomer.

everything is much clearer now.

[Jamier-Host]

As usual the only winner is Flushy. Didnt invest and blonde had more hits than ever before!

[djsunset]

The key things now are

1) Checking on the welfare of the people who have lost these amounts.  The link earlier in this thread about another conman said two people tried to commit suicide after their losses, and as a matter of urgency, Blatch should give details of his biggest investors to someone neutral, so they can be checked up on.  Did any of them invest a huge chunk of the 120k, and did any of them invest more than they could afford to lose?

2) Blatch's betting accounts being shut, or at least suspended.  Any bookmaker or exchange that has profitted (unwittingly) from this grimming scam can't allow him to keep on chasing,.. what if there are more investors who he is still in touch with who haven't read these threads?  Is Blatch in control of his gambling sufficiently?  Has he been honest that there is nothing left, or is there still a few grand kicking around somewhere?  If he is not in control, and people are getting hurt, its not unreasonable to expect bookmakers or exchanges to suspend his accounts.  The bad publicity if this does get in the papers will far outweigh the commission generated from his bets with other people's money.

3) Reducing the chances of this happening again in the near and far future.  There have been about 250 to 300 people reading this thread all day, and they would be helping the community by posting links/details to this case far and wide, so that in the future, anyone who reads about this case thinks twice about investing in "risk-free" "better than a bank" scams.  

[NoflopsHomer]

Ok, there is a link to the first part of the cliffs and the spreadsheet on this thread: http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=48454.0

Mods, please can you lock this other thread for now?

[LeedsRhodesy]

To me it sound like he is a very ill man and needs help as soon possible, its a illness that takes over and he has had no controll, he would always of been thinking that he could win the money back,  it looks like he made a few misakes and did not have the balls to come on and tell us he had fooked up and he was trying to win the money back but was not working out and lost more then lost the lot
 
in no way am i sticking up for him but imo he is ILL and needs help he has a gambling problem and could not stop,  i don't think for 1 min he has stole your money or has it under his bed  

i really feel sorry for Cos and Geogue who have lost a friends because of this but maybe you should really look long and hard and see that your friend is ill and maybe could not find a way out of the hole he had made and was to proud to say he had fooked up

i know a lot of you have lost a lot of money in this and i don't think its fair making his mum and dad pay for it at all but i can't see some one paying back 100k when he is on £5ph

End of the day i know its hard but you should count it as a bad staking that went wrong and if the money means so much to you then you have a gambling problem too and you should get help too

i know a lot of you arnt going to like this but imo he is ILL

[lazaroonie]

often the main problem on messageboards is 'hyperbole' but this thread has left me truly speechless.

Utterly astonishing at the scale of this problem and the amounts of money involved.

I can confirm that Steph(teacake) pm'd me last week about his concerns over the money he was owed regarding the fantasy football bet. I had my fears when I heard his excuses and reasons for not paying, but I have just come on here after a weekend away to see this.

I dont quite know what you do about this - im talking about those who have lost money - suck it up and put it down to experience would seem to be the easiest way, for those who just want to get on with their lives. A lynch mob might appease some, but is ultimately fruitless. Of course if anyone involved suspects real dishonesty and some criminal element to this, they can take this up with the relevant authorities

None of it is going to help people get their money back though.

Really sorry for you all.

[Woodsey]

Wow, such a foooooking sick grim. I feel sorry for you guys who have done chunks in, fortunately I will only lose a vegas stake. I was considering investing a chunk in this so that was a good fade.

Hope you guys that invested meaningful amounts get some or all of it back at some point

[mouth]

Ill or not, this looks like he planned it as a scam from day one. You can blame him being ill but it doesn't change what he did - he has defrauded a lot of people. Whether they can afford it or not is irellevant. That's like stealing from a millionaire "as they can afford it" and expecting to be let of scot free once caught. Ill or not he should be forced to face up to this and pay the punishment, whatever that may be. If not, you may as well give everyone carte blanche to break any law they want.

IMO I don't think this was a one off for Neil. Someone as accomplished and as polished a lair as he quite obviously was, has done this or similar before. The IVA, the fact he has a company registered to the address (5 million what?) and his personal circumstances ie owning a rugby top and a fiesta should be telling you a tale. Ill or not, if not punished for this Neil will go on to do it again and again and again - why wouldn't he? You just gave him permission to rip people off and expect them to accept it - in his head.

Do you think murderers get set free if they plead insanity or mental illness? It's a different crime but exactly the same principle. It's up to the relevant authorities to decide if Neil is sick and what way he can be helped or rehabilitated.

[Dubai]

What on earth are half of you even talking about?

This is getting ridiculous.

[stribling]

Re: (No subject)
« Sent to: stribling on: February 08, 2010, 03:20:59 PM »
« You have forwarded or responded to this message. »     

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Got you down at 627.64 at present

sigghh

[Ginger]

Ok, there is a link to the first part of the cliffs and the spreadsheet on this thread: http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=48454.0

Mods, please can you lock this other thread for now?

Other thread locked and stickied for now Chris.