Discussions about: Staking - Betfair Football Trading

[JustinTime]

You all know he has an IVA. So your now gonna open another can of worms by accepting anything off him.

Cash only.

[MadHorse]

I am really struggling to begin whose the worst now, are people serious considering passing their bank details over.

No sorry I just can't believe what I am reading, with this sort of gullable behaviour you deserve everything that comes your way.

Jesus christ.

[a.sparrow]

I am really struggling to begin whose the worst now, are people serious considering passing their bank details over.

No sorry I just can't believe what I am reading, with this sort of gullable behaviour you deserve everything that comes your way.

Jesus christ.

Theres nothing he can obtain from us if we request to be paid via cheque right? genuine question here.

[ripple11]

I am really struggling to begin whose the worst now, are people serious considering passing their bank details over.

No sorry I just can't believe what I am reading, with this sort of gullable behaviour you deserve everything that comes your way.

Jesus christ.

tell me whats he going to do with a zero balance savings account?

[Google]

Theres nothing he can obtain from us if we request to be paid via cheque right? genuine question here.

You obviously need the money he lost more than most and so your judgement may be clouded but dont be a fool, youre getting nothing.

[arbboy]

if u really want to get back at this prick the best thing to do would be to right off the money and report his behaviour to his iva supervisor would be instantly be forced to declare him legally bankrupt and fuck his chances of ever getting a decent job again.    You have no chance of getting this money so dont even entertain ideas.

[tropicana]

surely people would rather have their money back than ruining his life

or would they?

[Dubai]

If he was still trading id advise him to take the 4-5 about Switzerland v Honduras. They almost certainly will be closer to 1.6 on betfair than 1.8 come kickoff assuming Honduras are out and its a must win for the Swiss.

[arbboy]

u have no chance of getting ur money back.  If you do do this to him after you get it.

[a.sparrow]

Theres nothing he can obtain from us if we request to be paid via cheque right? genuine question here.

You obviously need the money he lost more than most and so your judgement may be clouded but dont be a fool, youre getting nothing.

Well i am also skeptical of getting the money back but I want to atleast be open to the oppertunity if it ever materialised.  I've been fortunate enough to be able to use someones PO box and so i havent really had to give him any info that relates to me.

[dik9]

Betfair will not be interested in personal losses even though from investors POV it is fraud, unless DC/CC were fraudulently used i.e. stolen or cloned.

Betfair (in their eyes) have allowed bets in good faith using an authorized account and will not care where those funds have come from as long as it isn't as above.

HOWEVER if Betfair are running an investigation it will be for multiple accounts and money laundering. Any strange/suspicious transactions between multiple accounts or A.N. Other's account(s) of this scale MUST be reported to the Serious and Organized Crime Agency (SOCA) and would suggest that they would almost certainly be doing this due to the amount of interest this has caused, to protect themselves if nothing else.

As this has probably hurt more blonde members than from any other source I would suggest a private forum for stakers to build up a fuller picture as possible as to whom and how much was involved where a civil case can possibly form if needed.

On a personal note, scams of this size and larger happen quite regular on the poker scene. This one is quite different as the nature of this is new. Social networking and poker forums means particular individuals can scam smaller but multiple amounts of numerous people. It also means that evidence can be correlated quicker and easier to track.

Years ago poker was full of scumbags, a few of those scumbags still exist, and new scumbags emerge but now poker is mainstream, the unsuspecting/naive/trusting are in the majority. Where there is money there are conmen and as poker is about extracting the most you can from an opponent some people see their life as a one big game of it.

My heart goes out to the people that bought in to his friendship even if if this were not reciprocated, you have nothing to be ashamed of and can hold your head(s) high, your future friendships will take more time but be stronger for it ...... trust me, my ex best "friend" (gambler) took me to the cleaners and i know how it hurts.

[Palawan]

No, a cheque would be safe if unlikely judged by his ability to lie to his family, friends, iva administrator and scam you all.  That you believe anything from him after this is staggering if not a tad understandable given emotions.

He can do nothing with a zero bank account other than use it in illegal activity with your name against it which could cause you some future headaches and it will never be safe for you to use again as an active account.

Reporting him to his iva administrator would upset them both considerably I would imagine but you could only file that under vindictive revenge.

[ripple11]

 There is no reason he cant pay back some money and still be prosecuted....just gets a lesser sentence.

[treefella]

Blatchly trying to buy time obviously.
If he was genuine he would of posted up a well to answer questions. He would also have been to a police station to own up just like one of his closest friends George asked him to. Why do some of you still want to believe this man ? HE'S ROTTEN TO THE CORE imo

[Palawan]

There is no reason he cant pay back some money and still be prosecuted....just gets a lesser sentence.

Except he cannot be prosecuted for a civil matter which he will only have to defend in a court of law if people pay to take him to a civil law court.