Apology to Tikay.

[Ginger]

The only victim in all this is Dawn and i think she should just be left out of it from now on,shes dealing with enough.

Dawn should never have been brought into this in the beginning, but it made a nice smokescreen to hide behind. Remind me, who actually brought Dawn into this to start with? (no need to reply, i know the answer)

Anyway, as I said I'm not up for a debate, I was asked to post and I have.

[Woodsey]

Obv this has feck all to do with me. But Jane, with all the nonsense flying around here why do you even want to continue to be a mod? I think I would have sacked it off already tbh...........

[Longy]

I must admit to having no idea why you want to continue as a mod.

As either (a) There is a lot of people bad mouthing you unfairly on here and have clearly have lost trust in you. Why would you continue as a mod?

             (b) There is some truth in the accusations and it seems a clear resigining issue. Why would continue as a mod?

As often the truth lies somewhere in between imo and there is never going to be a full agreement on either side of the facts but it strikes me to be kind of irrelevant when your modship is being discussed. As you have lost the trust of the people who you are serving as a mod on blonde, rightly or wrongly.

[littlemissC]

Correct Fran, it is my word against Kev's, I don't deny that.

However, what isn't in doubt is the reasons Kev was asked to leave, I won't and can't be held responsible for those actions. What you are basically saying is it's one person's word against another, but it's ok for one to possibly tell so many lies/half truths that it makes the integrity of the other in doubt.

That seem right to you, or fair?

I did nothing wrong, and those that have chosen to believe something without bothering to ask the other side (me) for information have been most vocal, yourself included. You have come to a conclusion with only knowing half a story, and made up your mind. Forgive me if I hope Tony doesn't listen to an obvious biased, made up mind.[/b]

oh there is no question in my made up mind that Tony will take no notice of me,but i have an opinion and ive expressed it.
good luck to you whatever the decision is.

[Ginger]

Obv this has feck all to do with me. But Jane, with all the nonsense flying around here why do you even want to continue to be a mod? I think I would have sacked it off already tbh...........

I'm more of a part time mod lately, due to massive commitments elsewhere meaning I've had very little free before the last month.

However, it doesn't mean that I don't love a lot about blonde and put in a lot of time here because of that, we've been through many ups and downs over the years. But, why should I be forced out over something that I haven't done? Someone else is in the wrong and wanting to take as many people down with them, should I do nothing?

I cannot tolerate injustice, if I had done something wrong that would justify me walking away I would hold my hands up and walk, but why should I when I've done nothing wrong? Peoples perceptions are tainted by half truths and lies, they have the choice to believe what they want, I have the right to defend myself and not be forced out.

[StuartHopkin]

What are you trying to say?

Is that directed at me? If so the words are there, read it if you want. Some, and by some I also include you, have quite clearly made up your mind as to what has happened, I do not intend on getting into any debate.

Kev has spun something very simple into something it is not in an attempt to divert attention, some people wanted me to post my side, I have.

I havent made up my mind at all about what you did. I havent got a clue.

I think there are so many different arguments being mixed together by people here it is hard for anyone to piece together the facts.
I have opinions on all the different arguments they are irrelevant.

One fact is clear though, how all this started, and why the original post had to be made.

Are you denying that you and your bearded sea nut (sigh at *****, when its obv needed) of a mate forced all of this to be outed, with no other motive than to hurt Kev?

That is the only reason I would like to see you disappear from this forum.

[Woodsey]

I'm more of a part time mod lately, due to massive commitments elsewhere meaning I've had very little free before the last month.

However, it doesn't mean that I don't love a lot about blonde and put in a lot of time here because of that, we've been through many ups and downs over the years. But, why should I be forced out over something that I haven't done? Someone else is in the wrong and wanting to take as many people down with them, should I do nothing?

I cannot tolerate injustice, if I had done something wrong that would justify me walking away I would hold my hands up and walk, but why should I when I've done nothing wrong? Peoples perceptions are tainted by half truths and lies, they have the choice to believe what they want, I have the right to defend myself and not be forced out.

Shame Kev doesn't have that right...........

[Shogun112]

Shame Kev doesn't have that right...........

He does though doesn't he.  He posts messages through other people and we are told who they are from.  And they don't get deleted either.

[Dingdell]

The only victim in all this is Dawn and i think she should just be left out of it from now on,shes dealing with enough.

I have to disagree with this point, and I hate disagreeing with Fran because I think she is great but......

In my opinion there are two victims here, Laxie and Brendans estate. Eventually they have been repaid, I doubt with any interest so a loss has been incurred there.

This matter, had it not been for Tightys way of dealing with it in house, should have been reported to the police imo, it is theft plain and simple. Whether Kev 'forgot' to transfer/pay the money or not is irrelevant, no real attempt to repay the money was made by him (apart from by his own admission that he made 1 phone call to Brendans son the week of the funeral as I recall?) and Kev decided not to provide proof that the money had remained where he said he put it untouched since then.

Why was he not keen ot prove his innocence and that it was a genuine mistake? Surely that would have helped his case to remain on Blonde (as he has said many times since then that this is where he wants to be and that being away from Blonde is very difficult for his recovery.) Well come on Kev, pull your finger out and provide the proof that may hep you.

I entirely expect the response to that to be 'I can't be bothered, those who know me know the real truth, it's too late to do anything about it now' or similar. In which case I will be disappointed, if Kev is telling the truth about where the money was all that time he should be keen to prove it surely?

Kev should be grateful that this was not reported to the police as theft imo, I don't think that type of pressure would have been at all helpful for his recovery.   

[Woodsey]

Shame Kev doesn't have that right...........

He does though doesn't he.  He posts messages through other people and we are told who they are from.  And they don't get deleted either.

Not really as well as he would probably like to...........

[StuartHopkin]

Shame Kev doesn't have that right...........

He does though doesn't he.  He posts messages through other people and we are told who they are from.  And they don't get deleted either.

Whats your angle on all of this MrShogun? You seem to be in the anti-kev camp. Which your more than entitled to be, but I'm not sure why.

[Graham C]

Shame Kev doesn't have that right...........

He does though doesn't he.  He posts messages through other people and we are told who they are from.  And they don't get deleted either.

He had negative information on him made public out of the blue and was banned before he had the chance to reply.    The whole thing should have remained private for  longer imo, there was no need for the witch hunt it's becoming.

[Jon MW]

Shame Kev doesn't have that right...........

He does though doesn't he.  He posts messages through other people and we are told who they are from.  And they don't get deleted either.

Whats your angle on all of this MrShogun? You seem to be in the anti-kev camp. Which your more than entitled to be, but I'm not sure why.

I think that's the problem

I don't think there should be an anti-kev, or anti-jane camp, or any other derivation (apart from anti-Bainn)

It should just be a matter of what's right and wrong, shouldn't it?

[Shogun112]

Shame Kev doesn't have that right...........

He does though doesn't he.  He posts messages through other people and we are told who they are from.  And they don't get deleted either.

Not really as well as he would probably like to...........

He also has a blog that has been emphatically plugged by all his supporters where he can say what he wants.  It is what Kev has said that is causing a thread like this and also forcing Jane to reply with her defence.  So you cant really say he has not had a chance.

[Woodsey]

Shame Kev doesn't have that right...........

He does though doesn't he.  He posts messages through other people and we are told who they are from.  And they don't get deleted either.

Not really as well as he would probably like to...........

He also has a blog that has been emphatically plugged by all his supporters where he can say what he wants.  It is what Kev has said that is causing a thread like this and also forcing Jane to reply with her defence.  So you cant really say he has not had a chance.

Sorry I disagree, without direct right of reply on here it just ain't the same.