Prose from a Poshboy

[titaniumbean]

nuts = the best hand Alex.

Toodle pip ol chap

[Woodsey]

I wish poker players would stop relating their entire net worth as a numbers of buy ins  

The bottom line is regardless of number of buyins, £3000 is fuck all money in real life. You need a medium/long term plan to get your roll up to a secure figure, there are better and more reliable ways to do it than your current way imo only of course.

I wish you all the best, but I'm pretty certain your going to go broke at some point, in a sick way that is probably a good thing to happen to you to give you a good sharp shock about the realities of pursing 'the dream' and whether its really for you.

Have you considered the % of people that try and achieve this 'dream' and fail? Why do you think you are any different? The chances are you will probably end up like one of the many degens that have been around the Nottingham circuit for a while and are in a constant cycle of bustoness and nipping to make ends meet. Is that really how you want your life to be? What about a nice house, family and kids? That's going to be tough to achieve as a busto poker player isn't it?

I know that all sounds a bit harsh, but I'm just trying to inject a bit of reality into the situation as most on here are encouraging you into this lifestyle. Don't get me wrong I hope you succeed but sometimes the reality of how most players end up just needs to be said.

[titaniumbean]

Woodsey speaks the truth!

[cambridgealex]

I wish poker players would stop relating their entire net worth as a numbers of buy ins  

The bottom line is regardless of number of buyins, £3000 is fuck all money in real life. You need a medium/long term plan to get your roll up to a secure figure, there are better and more reliable ways to do it than your current way imo only of course.

I wish you all the best, but I'm pretty certain your going to go broke at some point, in a sick way that is probably a good thing to happen to you to give you a good sharp shock about the realities of pursing 'the dream' and whether its really for you.

Have you considered the % of people that try and achieve this 'dream' and fail? Why do you think you are any different? The chances are you will probably end up like one of the many degens that have been around the Nottingham circuit for a while and are in a constant cycle of bustoness and nipping to make ends meet. Is that really how you want your life to be? What about a nice house, family and kids? That's going to be tough to achieve as a busto poker player isn't it?

I know that all sounds a bit harsh, but I'm just trying to inject a bit of reality into the situation as most on here are encouraging you into this lifestyle. Don't get me wrong I hope you succeed but sometimes the reality of how most players end up just needs to be said.

Thanks for your comments, even though they are very cynical, patronising and downright pessimistic. I am being realistic. Millions of people in this country live off 10-20k a year so im fine with that for now (ive already made £10k in the last 6months), but as I progress over the years I believe I have the potential to move up stakes and earn more.

[Woodsey]

I wish poker players would stop relating their entire net worth as a numbers of buy ins  

The bottom line is regardless of number of buyins, £3000 is fuck all money in real life. You need a medium/long term plan to get your roll up to a secure figure, there are better and more reliable ways to do it than your current way imo only of course.

I wish you all the best, but I'm pretty certain your going to go broke at some point, in a sick way that is probably a good thing to happen to you to give you a good sharp shock about the realities of pursing 'the dream' and whether its really for you.

Have you considered the % of people that try and achieve this 'dream' and fail? Why do you think you are any different? The chances are you will probably end up like one of the many degens that have been around the Nottingham circuit for a while and are in a constant cycle of bustoness and nipping to make ends meet. Is that really how you want your life to be? What about a nice house, family and kids? That's going to be tough to achieve as a busto poker player isn't it?

I know that all sounds a bit harsh, but I'm just trying to inject a bit of reality into the situation as most on here are encouraging you into this lifestyle. Don't get me wrong I hope you succeed but sometimes the reality of how most players end up just needs to be said.

Thanks for your comments, even though they are very cynical, patronising and downright pessimistic. I am being realistic. Millions of people in this country live off 10-20k a year so im fine with that for now, but as I progress over the years I believe I have the potential to move up stakes and earn more. ive already made £10k in the last 6months.

Mate I'm not trying to say this stuff that to piss you off, trust me. I just see these people around all the time and I despair when others want to be the next Sam Trickett when in fact they will probably end up being the next xxxxx (LOL I nearly put a few names down). I said this deliberately to make you think about your situation not to be a twat.

I won't mention it again, good luck anyway fella.

[cambridgealex]

I know you're only trying to help. Didn't mean to sound pissed off. I guess I was though lol.

I will suceed one way or another. I am smart, motivated, committed. I work hard, have lots of supportive friends and girlfriend around me as well as a love of the game and I believe some natural talent. I do believe I'm different to the people that hang around the Nottingham circuit who are broke most of the time.

[titaniumbean]

I wish poker players would stop relating their entire net worth as a numbers of buy ins  

The bottom line is regardless of number of buyins, £3000 is fuck all money in real life. You need a medium/long term plan to get your roll up to a secure figure, there are better and more reliable ways to do it than your current way imo only of course.

I wish you all the best, but I'm pretty certain your going to go broke at some point, in a sick way that is probably a good thing to happen to you to give you a good sharp shock about the realities of pursing 'the dream' and whether its really for you.

Have you considered the % of people that try and achieve this 'dream' and fail? Why do you think you are any different? The chances are you will probably end up like one of the many degens that have been around the Nottingham circuit for a while and are in a constant cycle of bustoness and nipping to make ends meet. Is that really how you want your life to be? What about a nice house, family and kids? That's going to be tough to achieve as a busto poker player isn't it?

I know that all sounds a bit harsh, but I'm just trying to inject a bit of reality into the situation as most on here are encouraging you into this lifestyle. Don't get me wrong I hope you succeed but sometimes the reality of how most players end up just needs to be said.

Thanks for your comments, even though they are very cynical, patronising and downright pessimistic. I am being realistic. Millions of people in this country live off 10-20k a year so im fine with that for now (ive already made £10k in the last 6months), but as I progress over the years I believe I have the potential to move up stakes and earn more.

Opposite of cynical, patronising and pessimistic

Alex you are the best in the world already, you can crush any game you play, 3k pounds can last for years, you'll never have a losing session...... you'll prob just exponentially increase your roll to the point where you are playing croquet for millions and losing on purpose.





So if you're getting advice regarding gambling for a living, you would rather have the 2nd style of advice rather than good solid,honest,realistic advice from Woodsey?

IF Woodsey was a pro poker player and not a semi reg dude thing, then he wouldn't give such good advice imo.


He isn't trying to make you feel bad or down, or put you down, or just piss on your leg for the sake of it. So many people in poker are unrealistic, so many people have no understanding of maths/winrates/expectation/variance etc a grounded perspective of the value of money and the ease with which money can come and go in poker is good to think about!

[George2Loose]

This diary seems to cycle lol

Think sometimes u have to go through the rough to experience the smooth. Genuinley hope this is not the case but if you bust the posts Woodsey etc may make more sense cos atm it's not really a reality.

Also give online longer mate- it's pretty obv you know what you're doing. Results will come (a wise man once said this to me in PHA)

[titaniumbean]

I know you're only trying to help. Didn't mean to sound pissed off. I guess I was though lol.

I will suceed one way or another. I am smart, motivated, committed. I work hard, have lots of supportive friends and girlfriend around me as well as a love of the game and I believe some natural talent. I do believe I'm different to the people that hang around the Nottingham circuit who are broke most of the time.

All this is good, and gives you an advantage.

Unfortunately over a 1k tourny sample size live you may never get to the point where you see your winrate. Some donk who you are twice as good as could win loads more than you over that small sample.


Having a plan/idea of what to do if another downswing occurs is deffo a good thing, as is having a buffer in your BR to allow for that.


The idea that just getting backed is kewl and a good professional thing to do could be discussed at length. I personally see it only as a stop gap for anyone who wants to actually consider themselves a professional.

[cambridgealex]

lol titbeam - "grounded perspective, knowing the value of money"...you lost 700quid sitting in a hotel room gambling on chinese in like 2hours.

[cambridgealex]

yr right george this diary does cycle. Winning streak, no1 says anything. Losing streak - YOU'RE GOING BROKE YOU'RE GOING BROKE!

[titaniumbean]

lol titbeam - "grounded perspective, knowing the value of money"...you lost 700quid sitting in a hotel room gambling on chinese in like 2hours.

Excuse me i'm pretty sure I only ended up 580 down lol


+ I winced and sighed about 30 times as I paid up so I certainly know the value of money lol.

[bhoywonder]

I wish poker players would stop relating their entire net worth as a numbers of buy ins  

The bottom line is regardless of number of buyins, £3000 is fuck all money in real life. You need a medium/long term plan to get your roll up to a secure figure, there are better and more reliable ways to do it than your current way imo only of course.

I wish you all the best, but I'm pretty certain your going to go broke at some point, in a sick way that is probably a good thing to happen to you to give you a good sharp shock about the realities of pursing 'the dream' and whether its really for you.

Have you considered the % of people that try and achieve this 'dream' and fail? Why do you think you are any different? The chances are you will probably end up like one of the many degens that have been around the Nottingham circuit for a while and are in a constant cycle of bustoness and nipping to make ends meet. Is that really how you want your life to be? What about a nice house, family and kids? That's going to be tough to achieve as a busto poker player isn't it?

I know that all sounds a bit harsh, but I'm just trying to inject a bit of reality into the situation as most on here are encouraging you into this lifestyle. Don't get me wrong I hope you succeed but sometimes the reality of how most players end up just needs to be said.

Haven't posted before...love your thread alex..

N I'm not gonna be patronizing

If your roll really is what it is,are you not borderline playing on scared money..

If you busto..do you have a backup plan outwith poker?

Your obv a young educated fella...you ever think seriously of pursuing a steady career or further education...

In saying that hope your recent grinding works out and maybe a good live bink is on the horizon...

[titaniumbean]

yr right george this diary does cycle. Winning streak, no1 says anything. Losing streak - YOU'RE GOING BROKE YOU'RE GOING BROKE!

honestly anyone time someone wins a pot I want to say 'RUNNING GOOD' lol. As that's true and no one pays attention or remembers those times. But I feel i'd get abuse for pissing on your parade kinda thing.



xx

[cambridgealex]

yr right george this diary does cycle. Winning streak, no1 says anything. Losing streak - YOU'RE GOING BROKE YOU'RE GOING BROKE!

honestly anyone time someone wins a pot I want to say 'RUNNING GOOD' lol. As that's true and no one pays attention or remembers those times. But I feel i'd get abuse for pissing on your parade kinda thing.



xx

so you just piss on it when i'm losing! lol