Prose from a Poshboy

[tikay]

Appreciate all this tikay

Think I'm almost done Alex.

[cambridgealex]

No I don't have a passion for sport really. I don't envisage putting hours of work into this - can I ask what the problem of doing what I've done this morning is - that is, seeing hectors post on the rugby union - hector is a tipster that I've been given the thumbs up to follow blindly, and what he writes about it all seems very shrewd - and then copying the same bet he tips? ~5 minutes work?

Can still have fun sweating the bet by watching the matches etc, like I said earlier, I find sweating anything fun if I have £ riding on it.

I remember everyone was going to watch Man City Man Utd a while ago, and to make it more interesting for me I put some rather extravagant (and almost certainly massively fishy!) bet on the number of corners - and I found sweating for corners hilariously fun. Obv I luckboxed the bet by halftime so was a great experience

[tikay]

If I may interject?

Someone made a very good point about liking sport itself

I really do think that a passion for sport, or those sports you'll bet on, is a huge help. Not an essential, but it will really help imo

It will really help you short-cut the process of sorting out what to follow and who to follow

Do you have this Alex?

Great point that.

My sporting interests were rather narrow pre TfT.

We have punted on 26 different sports, most of which I had little knowledge of previously. And I research EVERY sport we punt on, it's so educational, I research the venues, the Stadiums, the people in it, everything.

I think we have punted stuff in 33 different countries, too, ditto ditto. 

It can be an amazing learning tool.

So there you go. Make your own mind up, & use your own brain to decide whether to do it or not, & be careful about listening to the extreme ends of the argument, be they for or against.

It can be a heap of fun, or a world of pain.

[tikay]

No I don't have a passion for sport really. I don't envisage putting hours of work into this - can I ask what the problem of doing what I've done this morning is - that is, seeing hectors post on the rugby union - hector is a tipster that I've been given the thumbs up to follow blindly, and what he writes about it all seems very shrewd - and then copying the same bet he tips? ~5 minutes work?
Can still have fun sweating the bet by watching the matches etc, like I said earlier, I find sweating anything fun if I have £ riding on it.

I remember everyone was going to watch Man City Man Utd a while ago, and to make it more interesting for me I put some rather extravagant (and almost certainly massively fishy!) bet on the number of corners - and I found sweating for corners hilariously fun. Obv I luckboxed the bet by halftime so was a great experience

No problem with that at all, you just need to sort the wheat from the chaff.

You have been well-advised, hector can be followed blind.

Did you know that every time he has a little win he bakes a cake, & when he has a big win he does a little victory jig?

West Country boy, see. Extended families & all that.

[tikay]

Ooh, just remembered, one of the Gascoignes is a shrewd punter, I think it is the old refined one.

Appoint him as your PA. (Punting Advisor).

[cambridgealex]

Ooh, just remembered, one of the Gascoignes is a shrewd punter, I think it is the old refined one.

Appoint him as your PA. (Punting Advisor).

I shall. I'm off to Deauville with Father and Son in a week or so. We shall discuss then.

[kinboshi]

No I don't have a passion for sport really. I don't envisage putting hours of work into this - can I ask what the problem of doing what I've done this morning is - that is, seeing hectors post on the rugby union - hector is a tipster that I've been given the thumbs up to follow blindly, and what he writes about it all seems very shrewd - and then copying the same bet he tips? ~5 minutes work?

There are a number of issues following this method.  One, is that a bet might be posted, but by the time you see it the price has changed, and it's no longer good value or it has very little value.  Two, is that as has been mentioned the pros don't post all their bets on Fred as tips - so you're only getting a sample of what's available. Three, are you going to open accounts with 20+ bookies and be able to get the bets on with them at the right time at the right price each time?

Can still have fun sweating the bet by watching the matches etc, like I said earlier, I find sweating anything fun if I have £ riding on it.

I remember everyone was going to watch Man City Man Utd a while ago, and to make it more interesting for me I put some rather extravagant (and almost certainly massively fishy!) bet on the number of corners - and I found sweating for corners hilariously fun. Obv I luckboxed the bet by halftime so was a great experience

That's a bit of fun. Lots of people like a little punt here and there, but that's all it is.  I take the odd tip that I see on here and back it (thanks Horneris), and I'm in profit from that.  This allows me to make a punt here and there for a few quid and it all comes out of my 'punting roll'.  Don't expect to make any money from it, but it's not costing me anything and it's fun to do. 

I'm a big sports fan, and watch a lot of sport on telly. So having a punt on it can make it more interesting.  I don't have an interest in some sports (golf and snooker being two), and so I don't bet on those as there's no fun in it for me.

What sports do you watch regularly that you'll get this extra buzz from having a punt on here and there?

[tikay]

He watches a lot of croquet.

[kinboshi]

He watches a lot of croquet.

He could be the croquet advisor for Fred.  I assume it's a massive market, especially in the Far East?

[cambridgealex]

Football is the sport I watch the most. And I don't watch it a lot. We got into the darts over Christmas, enjoyed that, if I'd had a bet on it would've been even better.

[horseplayer]

some superb information there tikay

[RED-DOG]

Ooh, just remembered, one of the Gascoignes is a shrewd punter, I think it is the old refurbished one.

Appoint him as your PA. (Punting Advisor).

FYP

[Tal]

The majority of the prices are about right so, by definition, you won't lose a lot of money just backing the best price available. If it's for fun and well within your comfort zone/bankroll, there is no harm done.

However the TfT Fred has a general policy* of finding prices that are out of line and, wherever possible, so far out of line that they beat the cut the bookies take (in betting parlance, the overround), thus making the punter's edge worth a good investment.

I found this problem recently in a chess tournament Ladbrokes were offering prices on. I found three games where I believed the price on a player was too big and would ordinarily have proposed a bet on TfT. However, Dubai explained that the overround on the market was something like 122%, which means the house was taking a 22p edge. This means you aren't getting any value unless the price were WAY out of line.

This I had never appreciated before and is one of the many reasons I love that thread. Yes, two of them won at 11/2 and 7/2 but that's neither here nor there, as we don't do aftertiming


* originally auto corrected to gerbil policy. I'm not aware that TfT has one of those.

[Tal]

Also, just lay Liverpool.

/thread

[tikay]

Also, just lay Liverpool.

/thread

You had better explain to Alex what a lay is. A betting lay, I mean.