Manchester United, that didn't last long. Seven up

[George2Loose]

Didn't put Rooney in

[bagel]

entertaining viewing while smashing the sunday roast

rooney lookas like he is about to explode

[tikay]

Watford 3, Man U 1,

One side of Manchester is bathed in sunlight, whilst storm clouds gather on the other side.

[Karabiner]

Is he becoming a specialist?

[DungBeetle]

Obviously enjoyable for me but I thought Rooney was awful.  Poor set pieces.  Unforced errors.  All he seems useful for these days is arguing with the referee or appealing for non existent handballs while Rashford is busy scoring rebounds.  He's going to be a very expensive reserve in a year or so.

[Marky147]

Probably bench gundogan ahead of fellani

Hmmm I dunno, Gundogan is all elbows and spitting whilst bog brush is an elegant, gracious, classy footballer who makes the game look easy.

[hhyftrftdr]

Obviously enjoyable for me but I thought Rooney was awful.  Poor set pieces.  Unforced errors.  All he seems useful for these days is arguing with the referee or appealing for non existent handballs while Rashford is busy scoring rebounds.  He's going to be a very expensive reserve in a year or so.

Gotta find a manager with the balls to drop him first. He's been crap for a good 2/3 seasons now, everyone can see it, but still somehow worms his way into the starting line up. Long may it continue

Not seen any action but sounds like it was well deserved today, vwp. Must be nice to beat the teams you'll be competing with in and around the mid-table positions.

[exstream]

https://streamable.com/i6up

Rooney highlights today lol, dreadful

[DungBeetle]

Let's hope Allardyce was paying attention.

[tikay]

3 defeats in a week is not what we were expecting.

I was - still am to a degree - hoping that City & United would go head to head this season, & really liven things up. Those 2 going at it hammer & tongs can only be good.

It's all a bit sad, too, to see the Rooney & Fellaini haters enjoying themselves so, with their constant jibes from the comfort of their armchairs. Both players would walk into at least 17 or 18 of the EPL first teams. Strange how those people who love to knock & diss so rarely give praise to anyone.

If United can run up a little sequence of wins now, & Jose gets back to that wonderfully arrogant chirp mode, it'd be no bad thing.   

[DungBeetle]

3 defeats in a week is not what we were expecting.

I was - still am to a degree - hoping that City & United would go head to head this season, & really liven things up. Those 2 going at it hammer & tongs can only be good.

It's all a bit sad, too, to see the Rooney & Fellaini haters enjoying themselves so, with their constant jibes from the comfort of their armchairs. Both players would walk into at least 17 or 18 of the EPL first teams. Strange how those people who love to knock & diss so rarely give praise to anyone.

If United can run up a little sequence of wins now, & Jose gets back to that wonderfully arrogant chirp mode, it'd be no bad thing.   

Shoehorning Rooney into the team yesterday impacted United's performance in my opinion (and his awful performance). It isn't a matter of hating simply an observation that managers feel they can't drop him.  If we are talking of praise it isn't players in a red shirt who deserve it yesterday.

[tikay]

3 defeats in a week is not what we were expecting.

I was - still am to a degree - hoping that City & United would go head to head this season, & really liven things up. Those 2 going at it hammer & tongs can only be good.

It's all a bit sad, too, to see the Rooney & Fellaini haters enjoying themselves so, with their constant jibes from the comfort of their armchairs. Both players would walk into at least 17 or 18 of the EPL first teams. Strange how those people who love to knock & diss so rarely give praise to anyone.

If United can run up a little sequence of wins now, & Jose gets back to that wonderfully arrogant chirp mode, it'd be no bad thing.   

Shoehorning Rooney into the team yesterday impacted United's performance in my opinion (and his awful performance). It isn't a matter of hating simply an observation that managers feel they can't drop him.  If we are talking of praise it isn't players in a red shirt who deserve it yesterday.

Deffo agree that not much praise was due to any United players. I just think it's so easy to criticise the guys who put their head above the parapet every week, & never hide, & that certainly includes Rooney & Fellaini, neither of whom can ever be accused of lack of effort.

They are both like a lightning rod for the media to strike, whilst others, who maybe did not make quite so much effort, seem to escape the brunt of criticism.

It's SO easy to criticise. I certainly would not level this at you, but some folks criticise anyone & everyone, but never seem to be able to praise anyone. Their views hold zero value.

[horseplayer]

Rooney just looks a classic burnout effect to me.

Similar to torres playing regular football at such a young age takes it toll rooney was at his physical peak early 20s which is rare.

Tbf moyes did try and hold him back at Everton and got pelters for doing so.

Wonder where he will go when his contract expires or before. America be to fast paced as stevie g has found out China probably the favourite.

[DungBeetle]

Fair enough.  Personally I quite like Fellaini.  Elbow issues aside I think he's a good pro and gets a lot of grief.  Rooney is also a good pro, but my personal opinion is that trying to play him out of position is detrimental to Man Utd and also doesn't allow England to develop a long term tactical plan for the future.  I may be mistaken but I seem to remember the one ray of sunshine when England beat Germany was when Rooney wasn't in the squad so the other players could express themselves without deferring to the fading star?  I would ditch him from England (even at the cost of a short term downturn) and at Man Utd would play him as a number 10 or not at all as the match situation demanded it.

[tikay]

Rooney just looks a classic burnout effect to me.

Similar to torres playing regular football at such a young age takes it toll rooney was at his physical peak early 20s which is rare.

Tbf moyes did try and hold him back at Everton and got pelters for doing so.

Wonder where he will go when his contract expires or before. America be to fast paced as stevie g has found out China probably the favourite.

I hope he stays in England.

After all these years, money & success, he still absolutely loves the game, gives of his best, & expends every ounce of energy. Not too many in his spot can say that.

He has strayed from the straight & narrow occasionally, both off the pitch & in contract negotiations, but for the most part, he is a shining example to youngsters that they should a) enjoy the game & b) always give of their best.

Ps - Apologies if I am coming across a bit grumpy this morning. That's probably because I generally am grumpy in the morning. And afternoons. I'm OK in the evenings though. Sometimes.