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« Reply #2595 on: September 21, 2013, 05:14:34 PM »

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« Reply #2596 on: September 21, 2013, 05:18:17 PM »

Thoughts on poaching  your eggs instead of frying? Tastes better IMO and leas calories than frying. As for the rest top work, now get a digestive system that can stomach creatine.

Yeah I mix it up. Mostly fry or scramble my eggs in the morning simply because it's quicker and easier. When you get through 6 eggs a day, you need a balance your preparation range. Smiley
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« Reply #2597 on: September 21, 2013, 07:42:40 PM »

I take it u gym during the afternoon?

You considered taking the shakes with water?

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« Reply #2598 on: September 21, 2013, 10:09:53 PM »

I take it u gym during the afternoon?

You considered taking the shakes with water?

Depends. Today I went in the evening because it meant having a gym partner which meant extra reps and more weight. I normally go after my mid-morning snack, which is about 2pm in poker player's terms.

Shakes with water? Me personally, no. It's down to preference of course. I prefer the way they taste with milk, and milk is just so good for you that there's no point missing out on taste.
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« Reply #2599 on: September 21, 2013, 10:55:00 PM »

Mid-morning snack of greek yogurt, a handful of blueberries and 5 red grapes. Ideally I would have had a handful of walnuts as well, but we're all out.

Calories: 132
Protein: 9.7g
Carbohydrates: 13.7g
Fat: 5g

Fruit and vegetables are still a crucial part of your diet. They're a good source of vitamins, and a good source of fiber. They are loaded with carbs though, and all from sugars, so the more leafy you can make your vegetable consumption the better. I washed this snack down with a cup of green tea. I feel like exceptions to the water/milk rule is tea and coffee as long as you're smart and honest with yourself. Don't have a cup of tea with 6 sugars for example, or go down to Starbucks for a large hazelnut latte with whipped cream and chocolate shavings.

Lunch today was fairly modest, in part due to not having much food in the house, and in part because I missed my walk today and didn't feel like eating much.

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What we have here is a salmon fillet, lightly dressed in a chilli sauce, with a small portion of broccoli and asparagus, one boiled egg and some ripening goat's cheese. The breakdown as follows -

Calories: 360
Protein: 32.3g
Carbohydrates: 3.4g
Fat: 22.9g

Counting calories and macros is weird at first, and you feel like that overly protective suburban mother who spends 30 minutes per shopping trip checking everything she intends to get for her children for colours and preservatives before she agrees to buy it. Eventually it becomes normal to pick something up off the shelf and quickly check, protein, carbs, fat. Protein and fat = perfect. Protein and carbs = fine for your carb-loading days. Carbs and fat = BAD. This is where fat gets its bad name from; food that is low in protein and high in carbs and fat. These tend to be things like low quality ice cream and chocolate, french fries, cakes, etc. and pretty obvious things to stay away from.

Back to today. Had a boiled egg before heading off to the gym. My buddy really wanted to work on arms today, so we did 3 biceps exercises and 3 triceps exercises, and finished with a forearm exercise. I won't bother posting the routine because it was nothing special, it was just something we sort of cobbled together while we were lifting.

After the gym I took a tapered release protein shake, that's 3/4 scoop of whey, 3/4 scoop of casein and 350ml of whole milk. Nutritionally that looks like this:

Calories: 392
Protein: 46.9g
Carbohydrates: 19.7g
Fat: 13.5g

If you add the numbers up so far, you can see we're well on the way to hitting our macronutrient targets. We're almost at our 50g carbohydrate limit, which we'll hit with our post-workout meal and dinner later on, which are going to comprise mostly of lean meats and leaves, with just a touch of some sauce or another.
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« Reply #2600 on: September 22, 2013, 09:47:05 AM »

Fibre.
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« Reply #2601 on: September 22, 2013, 01:14:55 PM »

Fibre.

Well at least someone read it, I suppose
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« Reply #2602 on: September 22, 2013, 04:11:04 PM »

Fibre.

Well at least someone read it, I suppose

I read it. I live with you, and I still find your nutrition blog posts nteresting. It almost inspires me to put down the tub of cookie dough ice cream.
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« Reply #2603 on: September 22, 2013, 05:10:39 PM »

Fibre.

Well at least someone read it, I suppose
I read it


Food and gym routine v interesting

Think I'm gonna do three days weights and two cardio

Need to trim more than bulk
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« Reply #2604 on: September 22, 2013, 08:41:38 PM »

Fibre.

Well at least someone read it, I suppose

They're interesting posts - was just being facetious.

You don't seem to worry about distinguishing fats in your diet, and don't mention any concern with reducing saturated fat intake.  Is this something you do consider?
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« Reply #2605 on: September 23, 2013, 12:11:22 PM »

Fibre.

Well at least someone read it, I suppose

They're interesting posts - was just being facetious.

You don't seem to worry about distinguishing fats in your diet, and don't mention any concern with reducing saturated fat intake.  Is this something you do consider?

I know you were Daniel, I was just playing with you. Tongue

With regards to fat intake, while I would never go out of my way to increase levels of saturated fat in my diet (even though it's quite possible that I should), I don't think the amount I'm consuming - especially considering the rest of my diet - is anything to worry about. Naturally occurring saturated fats are fine, and as in the expression "blame the bun, not the butter," it's actually refined carbohydrates that make high level of saturated fat a dangerous thing.

Fat found in high protein foods such as meats, eggs, milk and nuts are good, healthy levels of fat. In a chicken breast, for example, the fat breaks down roughly as follows: 50% monounsaturated, 30% saturated, 20% polyunsaturated. The fats you need to steer clear of are hydrogenated fats, which are artificial unsaturated fats. These are found in pretty much the same things I listed the other day as foods it's pretty obvious you need to avoid when compiling a diet plan: margarine, cakes, fries and most fried foods, a lot of frozen foods, sweets and crisps, etc.

As always, I'm very happy to discuss and even happier to be corrected.
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« Reply #2606 on: September 23, 2013, 12:17:43 PM »

Hydrogenated fats are definitely bad, but I'd also argue that higher intake levels of saturated fats can also be bad - irrespective of carbohydrate intake. 

One to discuss round the felt I reckon Cheesy
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« Reply #2607 on: September 23, 2013, 11:30:04 PM »

Hydrogenated fats are definitely bad, but I'd also argue that higher intake levels of saturated fats can also be bad - irrespective of carbohydrate intake. 

One to discuss round the felt I reckon Cheesy

Sounds like a date. You giving the Grand Prix a go this weekend?
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« Reply #2608 on: September 24, 2013, 06:46:37 AM »

I've got some tokens through the cash games, but can't get to the club on Saturday before 6-ish.

 With only a couple of tokens, don't think I'll be able to blind away and come back to any chips! Have to actually play a day 1 first as well Cheesy But will be there at some point, for cash games if nothing else. You?
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« Reply #2609 on: September 24, 2013, 07:20:30 AM »

I've got some tokens through the cash games, but can't get to the club on Saturday before 6-ish.

 With only a couple of tokens, don't think I'll be able to blind away and come back to any chips! Have to actually play a day 1 first as well Cheesy But will be there at some point, for cash games if nothing else. You?

Play an online Day 1 (or two) and get at least a min cash of £250 if you make Day 2. DTD have gifted you the opportunity and it seems rather churlish to not take it.
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